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Say it ain't so!! The Hillyard Hammer is rolling on a 4-fight losing streak. Do you think it's time for the future hall of famer to hang em up???

GilFilmore wrote:Say it ain't so!! The Hillyard Hammer is rolling on a 4-fight losing streak. Do you think it's time for the future hall of famer to hang em up???

Which particular HOF do you think he qualifies for? You have a unique brand of trolling..

Can't speak for the author of this thread but I believe the HOF part was sarcastic. Welliver himself said he has only 1 more fight left. He has a good head on his shoulders and would be a good booker for the WWE. He can train boxers and I hope he gets into some sort of shape himself.

Never in his career has he had a four fight losing streak and yes he is a shoe in for both the Washington State and New Zealand boxing Hall Of Fames.

GilFilmore wrote:Never in his career has he had a four fight losing streak and yes he is a shoe in for both the Washington State and New Zealand boxing Hall Of Fames.

Comparing those HOFs to the real HOFs is like comparing the best golfer of your subdivision to PGA. Or being the best boxer at your prep school to a world amateur champion.

Tony1244 wrote:

GilFilmore wrote:Never in his career has he had a four fight losing streak and yes he is a shoe in for both the Washington State and New Zealand boxing Hall Of Fames.

Comparing those HOFs to the real HOFs is like comparing the best golfer of your subdivision to PGA. Or being the best boxer at your prep school to a world amateur champion.

This is the guy who has previously referred to Charlie Zelenoff as a future star.

JCS wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

GilFilmore wrote:Never in his career has he had a four fight losing streak and yes he is a shoe in for both the Washington State and New Zealand boxing Hall Of Fames.

Comparing those HOFs to the real HOFs is like comparing the best golfer of your subdivision to PGA. Or being the best boxer at your prep school to a world amateur champion.

This is the guy who has previously referred to Charlie Zelenoff as a future star.

Point taken.

What a crap thread, he hasn't fought for 4 months, hardly topical

tsmithy50 wrote:What a crap thread, he hasn't fought for 4 months, hardly topical

That's exactly why I think Welliver should get involved with wrestling. Welliver and his fan have a gift of gab and get people talking.

If that wimp of a giant Big Show wants to really do a boxing match vs an elite HW, Chauncy Wellliver will sign up for any show they have and show why he is a wrestler and not a boxer. You name the show and the real Game will show up to drop the Hillyard Hammer on WWE. Heck you can put 4 of those steroid freaks into gloves and Chauncy Welliver will beat them all down in a Handicapped Boxing Match. Big Show, The Great Khali, Undetaker and Cain. Welliver knocks all 4 of them out with ease.

Kronkpride wrote:If that wimp of a giant Big Show wants to really do a boxing match vs an elite HW, Chauncy Wellliver will sign up for any show they have and show why he is a wrestler and not a boxer. You name the show and the real Game will show up to drop the Hillyard Hammer on WWE. Heck you can put 4 of those steroid freaks into gloves and Chauncy Welliver will beat them all down in a Handicapped Boxing Match. Big Show, The Great Khali, Undetaker and Cain. Welliver knocks all 4 of them out with ease.

We had to listen to this garbage about Welliver and Wlad for years, at least now you've accepted it's all an actual fantasy.

He's your problem now, off topic forum!!

Chauncey's last few performances have been absolutely dreadful.

They televised his fight against Sonny Bill Williams and it was tragic to watch.

What fantasy are you talking about? Welliver meeting and beating Wladimir was on par with every other claim made the whole time about meeting and beating Wladimir. And many of the efforts to do so against him were absolutely pitiful by men so many have touted as good to great HW's. A whole bunch of them did not or barely even tried to win. Wlad's matches over these years have been pretty much terrible situations. Outclassed guy without the balls to just go for broke until they or Wlad broke.

Chauncy Welliver went up to #5 rated in the world by the WBO and WBC. Chauncy Welliver captured HW Titles and defended them all across the world. Quadruple Continental HW Champion. He held more belts for more regions than any guy in his period and more thn almost all guys from all periods. Chauncy Welliver traveled the world, won a lot of fights, made pretty good money and became known by many. And who cares if to some of them he is a joke? He is a hero to many as well and that is who counts. Even now when he has been losing and fighting at 300 pounds he has been a hero to fat people everywhere. Even the announcers and seasoned boxing fans continue to be amazed how such a fat and out of shape looking guy can fight these chiseled monsters and do so without ever even getting knocked down. Nobody has ever dropped the man and he is the IMMOVABLE OBJECT of his generation.

He probably will fight on. He can end his career on a win whenever he wants as he's shown he can rack them up with ease against the journeyman and down class of guys. But he has also shown that he can go the distance and not be dropped by the upper echelon guys too. So he has a good opportunity to get more matches against contenders, especially those who are needing to go some distance to further their experience of doing so in their career. Welliver will take anyone in the world into the deep waters....including Wladimir, if he gets the chance. The only way Welliver has ever not went the distance is because of injury and robbery. He was robbed in his stoppage loss to Solis because he made him look bad at the Vitali Klitschko comeback fight card in Germany. All the former champs sat and watch a guy announced as The Fat Dorky White Guy take all that the Olympic Gold Medalist could dish out without going down. The ref had the nerve to stop a man on his feet who had never been stopped and never been down. The 2 other stoppages are from an injured arm and a broken eye socket due to a head butt. The Lucas Browne head butt is the only damn thing that stopped Chauncy, who kept fighting him and taking his very best punches with a blind eye and not even able to see them coming. That was an Aussie cooked up win that is a NC everywhere else. If you watch the tapes even Browne's corner admits to him headbutting Welliver between rounds. Browne got a little cut in the exchange and Chauncy got a smashed eye socket. It was total bullshit.

Chauncy Welliver also managed to open up his own gym in Spokane by the time he was 30 years old. Boxfit Spokane. And he also managed to train a completely unknown HW Pat Ferguson to destroy the seasoned amateurs at the USA Nationals and they go to the Olympic Trials as the odds on favorites to be the USA HW in Rio. People laughed at them coming into the tournament and then they punched the smirks off every face and their corner they faced. Welliver is showing to have skills in all phases of the boxing game. He can manage, train, promote, analyze, and fight with the best of them in this sport. What he has done in boxing is way more amazing than embarrassing. And he's done it all with a sense of humor and a very kind hand to the fans. Unlike the too good for you HW's of this world, Chauncy Welliver has interacted with you all on forums, on radio shows, and in real life. He's never turned an autograph or picture seeker down. Even when he was in China and attracting massive crowds as The Boxing Panda, he would sit for hours and take pictures with and sign thousands of autographs for Chinese kids.

And I will tell you a story about China the 1st time he went and how it all happened. Chauncy is a character so he buys a panda hat and starts to wear it around. He is touring China with the WBO and many big names, including Mike Tyson and Don King who were both on that trip along with many other much bigger names than his was. All of a sudden, everybody at the events started to want to talk to the guy with the Panda Hat even above guys like Mike Tyson and Don King. he made himself approachable. Next thing you know people with money to do boxing shows there start asking if he wants to come and fight on cards as The Boxing Panda. So he even gets a Chinese robe to go with his hat and winds up getting some real nice pay days and main eventing some pretty big cards in China. He even gets Rob USA USA USA Calloway to come in for a match. For the BOXREC FORUM HW Title! And they put on a show where the Boxing Panda smacks around Mr. USA for 12 rounds and the crowd loved it. He did big things over there for the sport to help get it going and he was close to doing much more. He got a draw on 1 card and lost by 1 point on 2 others to Tank Williams. It was a damn close contest and he just didn't have his best night there. He could have and should have won that fight. And if he had, he would have faced Alexander Povetkin next for the WBA strap....not the big strap of the day, but a World Title shot none the less.

He was close, he went farther than any of you thought he could. You all laughed at me saying he would become a world rated HW. You people laughed when I said he would be the main event of sold out arenas. And you people laughed when I said he would challenge for the HW Title. That is the only part I was not accurate on. 2 damn points away. He also almost got a Vitali Klitschko match even before the loss for the WBC belt. He was rated top 15 for about 2 years straight. Damn close to getting the shot. And win lose or draw, even against Klitschko's, Welliver was always going to give it his all and remain on his feet in any world title challenge. Nobody could or ever will knock Chauncy welliver down!

How many guys have fought in North America, South America, Europe, Asia, and Australia? Africa is the only populated continent the man did not fight on. How many fighters own a gym by age 30? How many former fighters train a USA National Champion by 32 years old? How many fighters go over 400 rounds without ever getting dropped? You people mocking Welliver are crazy. And even when you do so as far as Wladimir. As I will tell you this much flat the F out. Chauncy Welliver could fight Ross Purity a thousand times in a row and not get dropped. And That's The Bottom Line! Cause Kronkpride Said So!

Kronkpride wrote:How many guys have fought in North America, South America, Europe, Asia, and Australia? Africa is the only populated continent the man did not fight on. How many fighters own a gym by age 30? How many former fighters train a USA National Champion by 32 years old? How many fighters go over 400 rounds without ever getting dropped? You people mocking Welliver are crazy. And even when you do so as far as Wladimir. As I will tell you this much flat the F out. Chauncy Welliver could fight Ross Purity a thousand times in a row and not get dropped. And That's The Bottom Line! Cause Kronkpride Said So!

My philosophy is Pro-Choice across the boards. Be a fan of whomever you want to be a fan of for ANY reason.

But 2 things on Chauncey are certain:

1) He needs to drop 100 LBS for his health.

2) The fact he was rated in the top 10 of World Heavyweights by any organization is downright disgusting and corrupt.

Is this the same guy that Wilder was afraid to fight?

IMO Chauncy Welliver's TOP 5 World Ratings were well earned and anything but corrupt. Every boxer has the ability to come to know and understand the ranking systems the organizations use. Chauncy Welliver did just that. There are ranking points awarded for holding regional titles and some titles outright come with a top 15 world ranking. And then defending those regional titles also pile up the points. Chauncy acquired all of his titles through the rules that are the same for everybody else and his activity rate of defending those titles was way above and beyond what most fighters do.

And now let's put it like this. Chauncy Welliver never pulled a Mark DeMori move and went and got a WBU World title to wear around. If he was going for the fraud he could have captured one of those very minor world belts, especially considering all the fees he paid in to the big organizations to fight for and defend his regional titles. But he was always about trying to capture a Big 4 belt. Getting and defending his belts was all about an opportunity to go for the big belt. And we all know, barring a dive, you have to earn your World Title in the ring. He never went for a World Title except the right way.

And say what you'd like about the regional belts but they do help fighters and promoters gain interest in the fights. The rankings attached to them also put more on the line in a bout. They help the sport on many levels and there has never been a problem with a fighter being the Champion of their state, their nation, or any of the regional belts. The main problem with titles is multiple world champions. Nothing Chauncy ever did in winning his belts skewed who the real world champion was....Wladimir and Vitali...K2. And that is who we were gunning for. Doing it all the right way the whole way.

I've never seen Welliver fight. Who is his best win?

Chauncy is a great guy and can fight, doesn't look like a fighter but can put punchs together and pull off wins I fought him 2 times and after both times still have nothing but respect for what he does Best of luck to him on any thing in the future