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Now that's a good fight. They are talking about it for fall.

Predictions?

Lomachenko by decision. No way Walters wins this fight as the only way he can win is by stoppage and I don't think Lomachenko has a weak chin.

Walters is pretty massive. I like Lomachnko to outbox him fairly soundly, but Walters size and power bring an interesting variable.

If it goes 12, Lomachenko, put it that way.

Bobbyptsd wrote:Walters is pretty massive. I like Lomachnko to outbox him fairly soundly, but Walters size and power bring an interesting variable.

If it goes 12, Lomachenko, put it that way.

Pretty reasonable analysis . I got Lomachenko as the Michael Jordan of boxing right now so I got him beating Walters even with the size advantage.

Lomachenko UD while making Walters look 2nd rate, great style of boxing lomachenko brings to the pros, make them miss, make them pay

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We will get to see how much Lomachenko learned from the Salido fight.

And he will need to have learned a lot.

No doubt Vasyl is better technically, but this guy is no novice and he hits like a mule.

If there is bad news on the horizon for Lomo, its name is Walters.

Loma didn't have problems with Russell's speed so I doubt that he has trouble with Walters'. I can see him having problems with his strength and aggression, and while I think he has a good chance of beating Walters I wouldn't be surprised if it unfolded similar to the Salido bout.

That said, I wonder if Walters' power has been somewhat flattered by facing opponents who spent nearly their entire careers at lower weights. Vic in particular looked tiny for the division and had widely lost bouts at 118 shortly before. I also doubt that Loma is going to stand and trade as Donaire and Vic did, so it will be interesting to see how Walters deals with a skillful boxer who moves very well.

Walters is a very dangerous opponent for anyone including Lomachenko, because of his long reach and his punching power.

I'll be rooting for Lomachenko, but I'm leaning toward Walters as the more likely winner, by about 55-45.

It is a very interesting matchup.

Loma as skill as he is just isnt a puncher he can pity pat you for 12rds but that wont work against Walters.

Walters walked through most of Nonitos vaunted hooks and just kept coming so you know loma wont crack him.

I see this like Salido/loma but Loma getting more busted up.

Walters by brutal ud or possible late stoppage.

This negro doesn't stand a chance against the russian. LomachenK.O. inside 6!

PsychoGamerTwo wrote:This negro doesn't stand a chance against the russian. LomachenK.O. inside 6!

"This Negro?" Are you all there? You shouldn't post when you are drunk, or if not - at all. I'm not offended, but others probably are.

I find it a bit amusing that people really want Lomanchenko to take on the very top challengers, but think Joshua should wait a couple of years. Don't get me wrong, I like seeing him vs the best, but think they should be treated equally.

Is Walters really that big or has he just looked it against smaller men in Donaire and Darchinyan? Anyways, I think Lomacheko uses his technical superiority and defense to outbox Walters. I don't see Lomachenko losing any fights to anyone in his weight class, honestly.

Jpreisser wrote:Is Walters really that big or has he just looked it against smaller men in Donaire and Darchinyan? Anyways, I think Lomacheko uses his technical superiority and defense to outbox Walters. I don't see Lomachenko losing any fights to anyone in his weight class, honestly.

That's a good question. Vic in particular looked tiny for the weight and was fighting and losing at 118 (after stints at 115 and 112) not many bouts prior, while Nonito has already gone down a division.

crusader wrote:

Jpreisser wrote:Is Walters really that big or has he just looked it against smaller men in Donaire and Darchinyan? Anyways, I think Lomacheko uses his technical superiority and defense to outbox Walters. I don't see Lomachenko losing any fights to anyone in his weight class, honestly.

That's a good question. Vic in particular looked tiny for the weight and was fighting and losing at 118 (after stints at 115 and 112) not many bouts prior, while Nonito has already gone down a division.

And that is what I am after. Donaire and Darchinyan have both been as low as 112, though Donaire's time was shorter. For Walters to look big against these men is only natural.

I really really like Walters. But, we will have to see is he can avenge a loss to the last guy to beat him in the AMs.... Miguel Marriaga 20-0 (18). This should be a helluva scrap. If Walters can get past him, then we can talk Loma.

Walters wins split dec.

Impractical Poster wrote:I really really like Walters. But, we will have to see is he can avenge a loss to the last guy to beat him in the AMs.... Miguel Marriaga 20-0 (18). This should be a helluva scrap. If Walters can get past him, then we can talk Loma.

My thoughts exactly to your point on first beating Marriaga.
I believe in his brief career Lomachenko has already faced the tougher fighters in Salido, and Russell compared to Walters opponents of Donaire and Darchinyan.
Only thing Loma has to worry about is Walters pulling stunt like Salido and not making weight..other than that I see it as Loma victory over Walters..definitely a tough must see contest though..

Lomachenko is so skilled I struggle to see past him
but when I have watched him, as impressed as I am with his technical ability, I can't help wonder how he will deal with a genuinely powerful opponent as Loma really does appear to have very little dig in his punches.

I'd fancy Loma to win just about every round but would worry that if Walter really tries to put it on him consistently and has the engine to do so for 12 rounds, he could wear him down and find the punch to change the fight.

I'm not sure what Lomachenkos chin is like as I've hardly seen him hit other than in the Salido bout. He looked sturdy enough in that, but Salido doesn't bang like Walters

90% Loma decision. but there is that lingering doubt that he doesn't have the firepower to stop the Walters advance

davie wrote:Lomachenko is so skilled I struggle to see past him
but when I have watched him, as impressed as I am with his technical ability, I can't help wonder how he will deal with a genuinely powerful opponent as Loma really does appear to have very little dig in his punches.

I'd fancy Loma to win just about every round but would worry that if Walter really tries to put it on him consistently and has the engine to do so for 12 rounds, he could wear him down and find the punch to change the fight.

I'm not sure what Lomachenkos chin is like as I've hardly seen him hit other than in the Salido bout. He looked sturdy enough in that, but Salido doesn't bang like Walters

90% Loma decision. but there is that lingering doubt that he doesn't have the firepower to stop the Walters advance

I don't understand this 'Lomachenko has little pop' thing. He has hurt or dropped everyone he has been in against and would very likely have another knockout on his resume if both hands were functioning. He isn't a big puncher, certainly, but he isn't feather-fisted.

I do think Marriaga poses a credible threat to Walters' potential fall date. He looked skilled in dismantling the tough, Christopher Martin.

Many of his shots are also quick flicks that he uses to score points and create openings. When he puts his body into it I think he punches respectably; he's not a banger but he's not feather-fisted either.

It's worth noting that Walters has been down several times and hurt on other occasions, so I wouldn't be surprised if Loma was able to rattle him even though the puncher in that fight would clearly be Walters. I can also see Walters' power and aggression unsettling Loma and there are good arguments that can be made for either guy, which is one of the qualities of a good match-up. If I were part of Loma's team I'd match him with a roughly top 10 opponent prior to Walters though, as I think he would benefit more than most other top fighters from extra high-level pro experience; Vetyka was mooted before and I think he'd be suitable.

Haven't his ko's come by way of body shots?

Yes, but I think he hurt Salido and Russell to the head, and he dropped Piriyapinyo with a head shot.

Jpreisser wrote:

davie wrote:Lomachenko is so skilled I struggle to see past him
but when I have watched him, as impressed as I am with his technical ability, I can't help wonder how he will deal with a genuinely powerful opponent as Loma really does appear to have very little dig in his punches.

I'd fancy Loma to win just about every round but would worry that if Walter really tries to put it on him consistently and has the engine to do so for 12 rounds, he could wear him down and find the punch to change the fight.

I'm not sure what Lomachenkos chin is like as I've hardly seen him hit other than in the Salido bout. He looked sturdy enough in that, but Salido doesn't bang like Walters

90% Loma decision. but there is that lingering doubt that he doesn't have the firepower to stop the Walters advance

I don't understand this 'Lomachenko has little pop' thing. He has hurt or dropped everyone he has been in against and would very likely have another knockout on his resume if both hands were functioning. He isn't a big puncher, certainly, but he isn't feather-fisted.

I do think Marriaga poses a credible threat to Walters' potential fall date. He looked skilled in dismantling the tough, Christopher Martin.

I don't think he's feather fisted but he's certainly not heavy handed and I just wonder if he'd struggle to deter a big powerful Walters.
I do still heavily fancy Lomachenko i just have a feeling Walter could get to him and if he does He'll test how good his chin is. As Walters is genuinely heavy handed

Walters is a formidable foe, and appears to have more punching power than Lomachenko. That said I think if Lomachenko fought Donaire, and Darchinyan right now he would ko both of them, and I am not sure that Walters would beat Russell.