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Two Good fighters being turned into laughing stocks !!!
Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 10:00
by DG.
Joe Calzaghe and Ricky Hatton !
I am not a big fan of Fwank Wrotten or Spunk Waxworks - but they are really making these 2 lookliike right c-unts !
Fwank Wrotten 'allegedly' offers Vivian Harris rubbish money and wants options on him ( Vivian is the Champion !!!

).
Now Fwank can say 'they wanted too much money' !..More like YOU did fwank !
Hatton is not fighting anyone decent !..
Fwank Wrotten makes Clazaghe look like a knob when we all know the Johnson fight is off - he now says Joe has a bad back.
Fwuck off with that bull - Fwankly speaking - it is a farce !
Spunks Waxworks :P :P :P

Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 10:07
by Hut*Hut
Its good that everyyone is coming round to this! Wank Farren is becoming universaly hated - hopefully people power will progressivly force some decent fights!

Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 10:08
by J
i dont think he hated as much as a man with all the power. there to be shot at.
I dont hate him at all, I just think that things could be better.
Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 10:28
by dondada
J wrote:i dont think he hated as much as a man with all the power. there to be shot at.
I dont hate him at all, I just think that things could be better.
What have I told you, J. Stop smoking that shit! 8)

Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 10:29
by REAL_DEAL

<--------- J
Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 10:32
by J
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:J wrote:i dont think he hated as much as a man with all the power. there to be shot at.
I dont hate him at all, I just think that things could be better.
What have I told you, J. Stop smoking that shit! 8)

mate can you imagine how aggro I would be if I didnt.
I do stand by my comments though. I do think he has the power to better which is why everyone has a go all the time including myself. But I certainly dont hate him.
Hate's a very strong word to me though.
Tim henman now i hate that ****
p.s. real deal it needs to be two kings and an L mate to get near my rolling capacity...well maybe in years gone by

Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 10:46
by Coconut
Tim Henman. I don't know why but I just hate that bloke. Something to do with him being a pencil-necked, limp-wristed, personality-free superhero who you just know will never win a grand slam but who sends millions of 'tennis fans' (another sub-breed who should be systematically culled) into Henmania (a phrase which itself makes my skin crawl) and fills the sports pages with more hopes waiting to be dashed.
I heard him do an hour on the radio as a guest DJ last year. One sentence and you know that he wears brown y-fronts with piss-yellow seams.
I'm going to have to make a cup of tea now
Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 10:48
by J
he is a loser and the epitmoiy of eveything I hate about the english, feckin hugh grant with a tennis racket.
wheres my feckin claw hammer.

Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 10:50
by DOG
J wrote:he is a loser and the epitmoiy of eveything I hate about the english, feckin hugh grant with a tennis racket.
wheres my feckin claw hammer.

J
I love that "Hugh Grant with a tennis racket"
up there with "Never drink Vodka with a Pole"
u should start getting these patented
Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 10:54
by REAL_DEAL
Dont worry i dont like Henman, he is givin a load of unknowns untill he gets to the semi's untill he meets a name and then he gets knocked out
wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaa

Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 10:57
by knockout artist
Do Calzaghe and Hatton really want to fight the very best guys?
Were not sure, are we?
Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 10:58
by J
haha cheers dude Im full of it in case you hadnt guessed
ive gotta go for a smoke just talking about THAT MAN makes me want to punch something. Blowing his knuckles every time he hits the ball like he has just invented the atom, its your fuckin job you dozy tosser your a tennis friggin player and the army of pre menapausal old dears that scream "come on timmy" every given opportunity even when he is getitng spanked like normal.
In fact when is he playing again, look for a bloke runnin on the court armed with a hatchett and a claw hammer
i am jokin but i do hate the bloke. monkey featured bag of piss.
that was a good rant, feel better now!
as for drinking vodka with a pole its true mate, i was totally bolloxed lost three hours of my life on business trip int he evening, told some french guy to bollox though so wasnt all bad.

tho he did deserve it.
That takes quite a lot of booze cos I like a beer. They have toasts in between toasts, like whats this one in aid of, oh we are drinking to the potatoe god that helped make this wonderful drink, thing is youre so pished that go along with it "to the potatoes"...........

Great people though, very friendly, resiliant proud people in the face of some quite awful treatment over the years by all their neighbours.
And if ever you get he chance to go to Kracow GO! wonderful place. Stunning.

Re: Two Good fighters being turned into laughing stocks !!!
Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 11:41
by Priff
DG. wrote:
Fwank Wrotten 'allegedly' offers Vivian Harris rubbish money and wants options on him ( Vivian is the Champion !!!

).
Now Fwank can say 'they wanted too much money' !..More like YOU did fwank !
One point that Frank made was that the money requested by some of the bigger names could only be satisfied by pay-per-view. Now, a lot of people have slated Frank making predictions of how he'll make Hatton fights pay-per-view somewhere along the line.
But so far, the predictions have not come true. Why? Is Frank avoiding pay-per-view to protect the viewing rights of the poorer man?
Hardly. Frank thinks it going to be difficult getting pay-per-view money for a fighter with no terrestrial TV coverage. Nas and Lewis had wider terrestrial coverage than Hatton has now. If he could make money from it, he would. But he knows he can't and while he can't he can't easily generate the revenue for the bigger names.
But Frank is not just the victim of course. He's decided to stick in Manchester for so long. No-one in the US will pay for the fights as Frank has neglected to build Rickys US profile. Only now does he talk of putting on shows in the US. I think this is the way forward to generate the money that attracts the bigger names.
This is my view on Hatton. I can't be bothered with Calzaghe to be honest.
Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 11:54
by stujones
Something I cannot understand (and I have asked it before) is how did Barry Hearn get the WBC title (and Inchin Chi) to fight here twice in the last 12 months, and Mikie can only half fill the M.E.N.
Warren is saying he'll need PPV to afford the big guys, how did Barry do it? Okay, it could have been seen as a financial gamle that didn't pay off the first time - but to do it for a second time shows to me (and Hearn is successful) that he was still in pocket - and that was with a half full arena.
Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 12:48
by Eric the Viking
J wrote:haha cheers dude Im full of it in case you hadnt guessed
ive gotta go for a smoke just talking about THAT MAN makes me want to punch something. Blowing his knuckles every time he hits the ball like he has just invented the atom, its your fuckin job you dozy tosser your a tennis friggin player and the army of pre menapausal old dears that scream "come on timmy" every given opportunity even when he is getitng spanked like normal.
In fact when is he playing again, look for a bloke runnin on the court armed with a hatchett and a claw hammer
i am jokin but i do hate the bloke. monkey featured bag of piss.
that was a good rant, feel better now!
as for drinking vodka with a pole its true mate, i was totally bolloxed lost three hours of my life on business trip int he evening, told some french guy to bollox though so wasnt all bad.

tho he did deserve it.
That takes quite a lot of booze cos I like a beer. They have toasts in between toasts, like whats this one in aid of, oh we are drinking to the potatoe god that helped make this wonderful drink, thing is youre so pished that go along with it "to the potatoes"...........

Great people though, very friendly, resiliant proud people in the face of some quite awful treatment over the years by all their neighbours.
And if ever you get he chance to go to Kracow GO! wonderful place. Stunning.

Ha ha, classic stuff, J. You need to post pissed 3 sheets to the wind more often - or perhaps you already do. ;)
"we are drinking to the potatoe god"
![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
:D:D
Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 17:34
by theguru
You shouldnt hate someone unless they have personally wronged u
Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 05:23
by J
thanks Vike, sometimes I do mate, usually when Im ranting!
And Guru I do agree I dont really hate henman, more intense dislike, and he has personally wronged me as I have to put up with all the gals the office shouting for tosspot. I cant even bear to have him on the tv for a plsit second.
Funnily enough Alex stewart the cricketer is the same for me, jusat one of them things you know.
Theres a lot more people I really do like, Freddie Flintoff, NBasser, Maretin Johnson, Dally, Nige Benn, lennox, Nard hopkins blah blah I could go on for hours.
Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 05:49
by Slapsie Maxie
It only seems like yesterday that FW was the new kid on the block and shaking up Duff and Astair with his shows in Russell Square. Now he has become everything he professed to dislike about them.
Mind you, Rh and JC are grown men ( although Hatton talks like a three year old ) so all this "it's so frustrating to have everyone dodging me" bollocks is a bit lame. Lot's of fighters change promoters to get the good fights. Nigel Benn went to the US to get the big fights. These guys are just our equivalents of Ottke or Tony Lopez. 40 + fights againts nobodies in front of undiscerning worshiping crowds three miles from where they live
Both are decent fighters, but JC is already past his best and Hatton has about another year to make the most of it.
I read somewhere that Hatton is worth about £5million now and JC not much less, so I guess in some terms they are having successful careers. But, in 10 or even 5 years time, who will even remember them?
Slapsie
Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 05:55
by MightyWarrior
True, but Joe stands to lose a small fortune with the inevitable divorce looming.
He's gonna need a few big paydays to get himself back on track.
Re: Two Good fighters being turned into laughing stocks !!!
Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 06:43
by jamesmcdonnell
Priff wrote:DG. wrote:
Fwank Wrotten 'allegedly' offers Vivian Harris rubbish money and wants options on him ( Vivian is the Champion !!! :lol: :lol: ).
Now Fwank can say 'they wanted too much money' !..More like YOU did fwank !
One point that Frank made was that the money requested by some of the bigger names could only be satisfied by pay-per-view. Now, a lot of people have slated Frank making predictions of how he'll make Hatton fights pay-per-view somewhere along the line.
But so far, the predictions have not come true. Why? Is Frank avoiding pay-per-view to protect the viewing rights of the poorer man?
Hardly. Frank thinks it going to be difficult getting pay-per-view money for a fighter with no terrestrial TV coverage. Nas and Lewis had wider terrestrial coverage than Hatton has now. If he could make money from it, he would. But he knows he can't and while he can't he can't easily generate the revenue for the bigger names.
But Frank is not just the victim of course. He's decided to stick in Manchester for so long. No-one in the US will pay for the fights as Frank has neglected to build Rickys US profile. Only now does he talk of putting on shows in the US. I think this is the way forward to generate the money that attracts the bigger names.
This is my view on Hatton. I can't be bothered with Calzaghe to be honest.
I'm afraid there are some rather inaccurate statements in here.
The USA won't stage PPV's because they want the fights on at a time that is suitable for US audiences, not delayed broadcast, because it kills the impetus to buy a PPV, when you can get the results from fightnews 2 minutes after the conclusion of the fight, then watch a re-run for free, or get a mate to tape it. If Ricky or Joe went to the USA on a co-promotion they would both be on PPV. Calzaghe is a well known fighter, and Hatton has had lots of fights on shobox, so he is pretty well known. Jay Larkin told me that American audiences LOVE hatton fights, because of the drama of their setting, and they love his style of fighting too.
It's not a matter or profile, Hatton could go to America tommorow, and participate in a massive fight with Gatti, Mayweather, Judah etc, all of which would be highly profitable, as to why that isn't happening, you would have to ask sports network.
Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 09:38
by glittermonkey
In defence of Tim Henman
As i'm sure you are all aware, there has been a recent breakout of anti-Tim posts on this site. Therefor i would like to speak up in defence of the tennis idol, and offer my support to him and his many fans in this most critical time of the year for Tim.
Tim is not, as people have suggested, a loser. Quite the opposite in fact. He has won 11 ATP tour titles, including the coveted masters series title in Paris at the end of last season. He has also featured in three grand slam semi-finals, and has been a solid top ten player for a number of years now. His current ATP ranking is number 7 in the world. Perhaps you would like me to run that last bit past you again, out of every man around the world that plays tennis, he is the 7th best.
Maybe Tim's middle class upbringing is not to everyone's taste, but all i can say to you is that Tim had no choice in the way he was brought up and more than this, he is proud of his heritage and his middle England background.
Lastly we come to the subject of "Tiger" Tim's personality. Again it is not Tim's fault that he is a nice guy. My contention is that Tim is exceptionally brave and courageous for being the man he is and not the man his detractors wish him to be. I'm sure that if any of you were given the chance to meet Tim you would find him to be charming, witty, engaging company.
Re: Two Good fighters being turned into laughing stocks !!!
Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 11:19
by Priff
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Jay Larkin told me that American audiences LOVE hatton fights, because of the drama of their setting, and they love his style of fighting too.
Now this sort of comment is common on the forums and come from an interpretation the 'boxing public' that I just don't agree with.
Forum users are always going on about how recent shows are conning the 'boxing public' who want to see more interesting fights. Nope. The people who are missing out are the Boxing Die-hards/enthusiasts/fanatics. These people have a very small amount of power in boxing. It's the ordinary punters, those who have heard of Tyson, Lennox and Nas, they are the ones with the power. It's their money that is wanted.
When Javid Khaliq fights, it's the 400 pakistani Taxi drivers. When Hatton fights, it's the 3,000 pissed up Manc with their tarts. They hold the power as far as Audience (&PPV) is concerned.
American audiences LOVE Hatton? English audiences barely know who Hatton is (remember, I'm not talking about ordinary sport lovers, not Boxrec forum users). American Boxing Press probably loves Hatton. American knowledgeable fans probably love Hatton, but the wider public (who's buy in you need to make PPV work)??? No way, I don't believe that.
PPV is about general sports fans paying to watch boxing. It's not about boxing fans.
Look at the PPV in this country. Pretty much the only PPVs since Nas have been for the HW Championship or Tyson. These are big names. Hatton does not fall into this category in this country or the US. Ever heard Hatton's name mentioned in the Sports round up of the National News...ever? He is simply not big time.
Also "Setting"??? What, the MEN?!?
Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 12:04
by J
glittermonkey wrote:In defence of Tim Henman
As i'm sure you are all aware, there has been a recent breakout of anti-Tim posts on this site. Therefor i would like to speak up in defence of the tennis idol, and offer my support to him and his many fans in this most critical time of the year for Tim.
Tim is not, as people have suggested, a loser. Quite the opposite in fact. He has won 11 ATP tour titles, including the coveted masters series title in Paris at the end of last season. He has also featured in three grand slam semi-finals, and has been a solid top ten player for a number of years now. His current ATP ranking is number 7 in the world. Perhaps you would like me to run that last bit past you again, out of every man around the world that plays tennis, he is the 7th best.
Maybe Tim's middle class upbringing is not to everyone's taste, but all i can say to you is that Tim had no choice in the way he was brought up and more than this, he is proud of his heritage and his middle England background.
Lastly we come to the subject of "Tiger" Tim's personality. Again it is not Tim's fault that he is a nice guy. My contention is that Tim is exceptionally brave and courageous for being the man he is and not the man his detractors wish him to be. I'm sure that if any of you were given the chance to meet Tim you would find him to be charming, witty, engaging company.
wanna settle this on the cobbles

I just have inate hatred of him, you probably do about people I like mate, no harm done its just one of them things.

Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 12:06
by Eric the Viking
I'm pretty sure glittermonkey was just joking about Timmay not being a poncey tosser who always loses the in the big ones, J. ;)
Posted: 25 Jun 2004, 12:08
by J
dunno mate he is from royal tunbridge wells I seem to remember!!! either way no harm done, people can have their own opinions as long as the worship the potato god from time to time:TU:
(vodka for the unitiated)