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Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 01 Jun 2015, 12:45
by Mimmy
Which boxer has had the most pro fights in 1 year. Not a quiz just thought about it but cant find any info on google.

Re: Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 01 Jun 2015, 12:46
by Rexob
It's got to be someone from Doncaster?

Re: Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 01 Jun 2015, 15:27
by gregor
I checked Reggie Strickland. 42 fights in 1998, 41 in 1993.

Re: Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 01 Jun 2015, 16:03
by HomicideHenry
I know after losing the title, Max Baer fought 24 times in the span of four months.

Re: Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 01 Jun 2015, 18:16
by Controversial
Len Wicker must be up there, in 1934 he fought 58 times. If not him it's got to be someone else in the 300+/400+ fight club.


EDIT: Just found this from hhascup on another forum, the fella really knows his stuff so here's your answer.

58…Ted “Kid” Lewis……………1911
58…Len Wickwar…………….…1934
53…Joe Grim……………………1902
51…Len Wickwar……….………1935
50…Len Wickwar………….……1932
49…Len Wickwar………….……1933
48…Len Wickwar………….……1936
46…John “Unk” Russell……...…1905
44…Len Wickwar…………….…1930
44…Harry Greb…………………1919
43…Young Erne…………………1902
42…Young Griffo………….……1890
41…Len Wickwar………….……1931
40…Len Wickwar………….……1937

Re: Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 01 Jun 2015, 18:38
by tiny_acres
Controversial wrote:Len Wicker must be up there, in 1934 he fought 58 times. If not him it's got to be someone else in the 300+/400+ fight club.


EDIT: Just found this from hhascup on another forum, the fella really knows his stuff so here's your answer.

58…Ted “Kid” Lewis……………1911
58…Len Wickwar…………….…1934
53…Joe Grim……………………1902
51…Len Wickwar……….………1935
50…Len Wickwar………….……1932
49…Len Wickwar………….……1933
48…Len Wickwar………….……1936
46…John “Unk” Russell……...…1905
44…Len Wickwar…………….…1930
44…Harry Greb…………………1919
43…Young Erne…………………1902
42…Young Griffo………….……1890
41…Len Wickwar………….……1931
40…Len Wickwar………….……1937
Len Wickwar
won 340 (KO 93) + lost 87 (KO 37) + drawn 42 = 470
rounds boxed 4010 KO% 19.79

470 fights in 19 years.The guy was busy if nothing else

Re: Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 01 Jun 2015, 18:47
by Controversial
tiny_acres wrote:
Controversial wrote:Len Wicker must be up there, in 1934 he fought 58 times. If not him it's got to be someone else in the 300+/400+ fight club.


EDIT: Just found this from hhascup on another forum, the fella really knows his stuff so here's your answer.

58…Ted “Kid” Lewis……………1911
58…Len Wickwar…………….…1934
53…Joe Grim……………………1902
51…Len Wickwar……….………1935
50…Len Wickwar………….……1932
49…Len Wickwar………….……1933
48…Len Wickwar………….……1936
46…John “Unk” Russell……...…1905
44…Len Wickwar…………….…1930
44…Harry Greb…………………1919
43…Young Erne…………………1902
42…Young Griffo………….……1890
41…Len Wickwar………….……1931
40…Len Wickwar………….……1937
Len Wickwar
won 340 (KO 93) + lost 87 (KO 37) + drawn 42 = 470
rounds boxed 4010 KO% 19.79

470 fights in 19 years.The guy was busy if nothing else
Plus WW2 halted his career, he didn't fight at all between 1941-45. If the war didn't happen and he continued fighting with the same regularity he could've ended up with around 700 pro fights, ifs buts and maybes but pretty amazing.

Re: Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 04 Jun 2015, 18:16
by Tomasino
Anybody winning 340 fights can do a bit that's for sure. Incredible numbers

Re: Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 15:00
by prewarboxing
I answered this enquiry on a similar thread back in 2011

Here is what I wrote :

I have traced 75 contests for Jack Marks (Aldgate, London) in 1911.

Jan 1 1911 George Cole(Poplar) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Jan 7 1911 Jack Townsend(Stepney) LP Lambeth Canterbury Music Hall 8
Jan 9 1911 Alf Defries(Long Acre) LP Lambeth South London Palace 6
Jan 11 1911 Bernard Pinion(St George's) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Jan 18 1911 Tom Rowes(Stratford) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Jan 25 1911 Peter Benson(Borough) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Jan 26 1911 Fred Anderson(Lambeth) LKO2 Southwark The Ring 6
Jan 29 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Feb 1 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) DR St George's Judaeans AC 8
Feb 8 1911 Young Sullivan(St George's) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Feb 11 1911 Tom Hughes WP Whitechapel Wonderland 3
8st novice competition 1st series
Feb 12 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) LP St George's Judaeans AC 10
Feb 13 1911 Young Sullivan LP Mile End Paragon Music Hall 3
8st novice competition 2nd series
Feb 15 1911 Joe Madden(St George's) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Feb 20 1911 Ted Haley(Bermondsey) DR Lambeth South London Palace 6
Feb 26 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Mar 4 1911 Bill Stevens(London) WP Whitechapel Wonderland 4
8st novice competition 3rd series
Mar 7 1911 Young Smith(Barnsbury) DR Barnesbury Athletic Club 6
Mar 12 1911 Charlie Farrell(USA) WS3 St George's Judaeans AC 6
Mar 13 1911 Yank Gilbert(USA) WP Whitechapel Wonderland 6
Mar 18 1911 Curly Hume(Aldgate) LP Lambeth Canterbury Music Hall 6
Mar 19 1911 George Cole(Poplar) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Mar 20 1911 Bill Smith(Bermondsey) WP Whitechapel Wonderland 6
Mar 22 1911 Young Sullivan(St George's) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Mar 23 1911 Tom Lee(Bow) DR Southwark The Ring 6
Apr 8 1911 Bill Olds(Bethnal Green) LP Whitechapel Wonderland 6
8st competition final
Apr 10 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) LP London Blechynden Hall 10
Apr 12 1911 Bernard Pinion(St George's) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Apr 19 1911 Bernard Pinion(St George's) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Apr 22 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) LP Poplar Hippodrome 6
Apr 23 1911 Ted Kid Lewis(St George's) LS7 St George's Judaeans AC 10
Apr 27 1911 Bernard Pinion(St George's) LP Chelsea Club 6
Apr 29 1911 Joe Madden(St George's) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
May 7 1911 Fred Cooper(Bermondsey) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
May 11 1911 Tom Lee(Bow) WP Southwark The Ring 6
May 14 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
May 21 1911 Fred Cooper(Bermondsey) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
May 28 1911 Jim Downs(Stepney) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
May 31 1911 Young Sullivan(St George's) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Jun 25 1911 Fred Cooper(Bermondsey) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Jul 29 1911 Tom Smith(Walthamstow) WP Walthamstow Royal Standard Grounds 6
Sep 9 1911 George Burns(Bethnal Green) LP Southampton Coliseum 6
Sep 10 1911 Harry Jones(Stepney) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Sep 20 1911 Joe Lipman(Aldgate) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Sep 27 1911 Dave Conn(Aldgate) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Sep 30 1911 Harry Jones(Stepney) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 4 1911 Harry Smith(Bethnal Green) WS3 St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 7 1911 George Couch(Stepney) LP Poplar Hippodrome 6
Oct 7 1911 Tom Keeling(Bermondsey) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 8 1911 Bill Smith(Bermondsey) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 15 1911 George Thacker(Hoxton) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 18 1911 George Thacker(Hoxton) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 19 1911 Jack Wayland(Edmonton) LP Southwark The Ring 6
Oct 21 1911 Jack Smith(Stepney) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 22 1911 Harry Jones(Stepney) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 23 1911 Bill Smith(Bermondsey) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 25 1911 Jack Lewis(Aldgate) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 28 1911 Jack Smith(Stepney) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 29 1911 Jack Lewis(Aldgate) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Nov 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) WP Ipswich Crown Hall 10
Nov 4 1911 Bob Elliott(Stratford) DR Ipswich Crown Hall 10
Nov 11 1911 Bill Smith(Bermondsey) WP Poplar Hippodrome 6
Nov 12 1911 Fred McQuillan(Bermondsey) WS2 St George's Judaeans AC 6
Nov 13 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) DR Bloomsbury International AC 6
Nov 19 1911 Tom Keeling(Bermondsey) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Nov 23 1911 Bill Smith(Bermondsey) WP Southwark The Ring 6
Nov 26 1911 Jack Smith(Stepney) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 2 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) WP Ipswich Crown Hall 15
Dec 4 1911 Tom Keeling(Bermondsey) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 6 1911 J Wood(Aldgate) WR4 St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 13 1911 George Thacker(Hoxton) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 17 1911 Jim Scraggs WS4 St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 21 1911 Ted Saunders(Stepney) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 28 1911 L/Cpl. Murphy WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 31 1911 Arthur Brown LP St George's Judaeans AC 6

Anyone who knows about British boxing during this period will recognise some good names on this list, for anyone who doesn't then the name Ted Kid Lewis should stand out at least (April 23 1911). I have seen Ted Kid Lewis record with another bout against Marks on Jan 18 1911 but the report for this show in 'Boxing' does not include the contest. The show was not covered by Mirror of Life and so until I find the eviedence for it I have not included it in my data. If found then Marks goes to 76 for the year !

I also have 60 for Len Wickwar in 1934, 59 for Siki Coulton (Mansfield) in 1928, 56 for Sandy McEwan (Aberdeen) in 1934 and 53 for Bill Huntley (Lambeth) in 1931.


Miles Templeton
http://www.boxingistory.org.uk

Re: Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 16:52
by L.A. kidd
are you sure these were fights, or a bunch of exibitions? I just find it hard to believe a guy can have 75 fights in one year.

he nust have never been cut. or even hit.

Re: Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 17:37
by Controversial
prewarboxing wrote:I answered this enquiry on a similar thread back in 2011

Here is what I wrote :

I have traced 75 contests for Jack Marks (Aldgate, London) in 1911.

Jan 1 1911 George Cole(Poplar) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Jan 7 1911 Jack Townsend(Stepney) LP Lambeth Canterbury Music Hall 8
Jan 9 1911 Alf Defries(Long Acre) LP Lambeth South London Palace 6
Jan 11 1911 Bernard Pinion(St George's) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Jan 18 1911 Tom Rowes(Stratford) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Jan 25 1911 Peter Benson(Borough) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Jan 26 1911 Fred Anderson(Lambeth) LKO2 Southwark The Ring 6
Jan 29 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Feb 1 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) DR St George's Judaeans AC 8
Feb 8 1911 Young Sullivan(St George's) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Feb 11 1911 Tom Hughes WP Whitechapel Wonderland 3
8st novice competition 1st series
Feb 12 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) LP St George's Judaeans AC 10
Feb 13 1911 Young Sullivan LP Mile End Paragon Music Hall 3
8st novice competition 2nd series
Feb 15 1911 Joe Madden(St George's) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Feb 20 1911 Ted Haley(Bermondsey) DR Lambeth South London Palace 6
Feb 26 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Mar 4 1911 Bill Stevens(London) WP Whitechapel Wonderland 4
8st novice competition 3rd series
Mar 7 1911 Young Smith(Barnsbury) DR Barnesbury Athletic Club 6
Mar 12 1911 Charlie Farrell(USA) WS3 St George's Judaeans AC 6
Mar 13 1911 Yank Gilbert(USA) WP Whitechapel Wonderland 6
Mar 18 1911 Curly Hume(Aldgate) LP Lambeth Canterbury Music Hall 6
Mar 19 1911 George Cole(Poplar) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Mar 20 1911 Bill Smith(Bermondsey) WP Whitechapel Wonderland 6
Mar 22 1911 Young Sullivan(St George's) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Mar 23 1911 Tom Lee(Bow) DR Southwark The Ring 6
Apr 8 1911 Bill Olds(Bethnal Green) LP Whitechapel Wonderland 6
8st competition final
Apr 10 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) LP London Blechynden Hall 10
Apr 12 1911 Bernard Pinion(St George's) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Apr 19 1911 Bernard Pinion(St George's) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Apr 22 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) LP Poplar Hippodrome 6
Apr 23 1911 Ted Kid Lewis(St George's) LS7 St George's Judaeans AC 10
Apr 27 1911 Bernard Pinion(St George's) LP Chelsea Club 6
Apr 29 1911 Joe Madden(St George's) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
May 7 1911 Fred Cooper(Bermondsey) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
May 11 1911 Tom Lee(Bow) WP Southwark The Ring 6
May 14 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
May 21 1911 Fred Cooper(Bermondsey) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
May 28 1911 Jim Downs(Stepney) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
May 31 1911 Young Sullivan(St George's) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Jun 25 1911 Fred Cooper(Bermondsey) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Jul 29 1911 Tom Smith(Walthamstow) WP Walthamstow Royal Standard Grounds 6
Sep 9 1911 George Burns(Bethnal Green) LP Southampton Coliseum 6
Sep 10 1911 Harry Jones(Stepney) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Sep 20 1911 Joe Lipman(Aldgate) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Sep 27 1911 Dave Conn(Aldgate) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Sep 30 1911 Harry Jones(Stepney) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 4 1911 Harry Smith(Bethnal Green) WS3 St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 7 1911 George Couch(Stepney) LP Poplar Hippodrome 6
Oct 7 1911 Tom Keeling(Bermondsey) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 8 1911 Bill Smith(Bermondsey) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 15 1911 George Thacker(Hoxton) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 18 1911 George Thacker(Hoxton) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 19 1911 Jack Wayland(Edmonton) LP Southwark The Ring 6
Oct 21 1911 Jack Smith(Stepney) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 22 1911 Harry Jones(Stepney) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 23 1911 Bill Smith(Bermondsey) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 25 1911 Jack Lewis(Aldgate) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 28 1911 Jack Smith(Stepney) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Oct 29 1911 Jack Lewis(Aldgate) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Nov 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) WP Ipswich Crown Hall 10
Nov 4 1911 Bob Elliott(Stratford) DR Ipswich Crown Hall 10
Nov 11 1911 Bill Smith(Bermondsey) WP Poplar Hippodrome 6
Nov 12 1911 Fred McQuillan(Bermondsey) WS2 St George's Judaeans AC 6
Nov 13 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) DR Bloomsbury International AC 6
Nov 19 1911 Tom Keeling(Bermondsey) LP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Nov 23 1911 Bill Smith(Bermondsey) WP Southwark The Ring 6
Nov 26 1911 Jack Smith(Stepney) DR St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 2 1911 Young Smith(Bermondsey) WP Ipswich Crown Hall 15
Dec 4 1911 Tom Keeling(Bermondsey) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 6 1911 J Wood(Aldgate) WR4 St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 13 1911 George Thacker(Hoxton) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 17 1911 Jim Scraggs WS4 St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 21 1911 Ted Saunders(Stepney) WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 28 1911 L/Cpl. Murphy WP St George's Judaeans AC 6
Dec 31 1911 Arthur Brown LP St George's Judaeans AC 6

Anyone who knows about British boxing during this period will recognise some good names on this list, for anyone who doesn't then the name Ted Kid Lewis should stand out at least (April 23 1911). I have seen Ted Kid Lewis record with another bout against Marks on Jan 18 1911 but the report for this show in 'Boxing' does not include the contest. The show was not covered by Mirror of Life and so until I find the eviedence for it I have not included it in my data. If found then Marks goes to 76 for the year !

I also have 60 for Len Wickwar in 1934, 59 for Siki Coulton (Mansfield) in 1928, 56 for Sandy McEwan (Aberdeen) in 1934 and 53 for Bill Huntley (Lambeth) in 1931.


Miles Templeton
http://www.boxingistory.org.uk
Nice, why don't you post this in the "records and queries" part of this website and see if they will amend a few records?

Re: Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 03:02
by prewarboxing
L.A. kidd wrote:are you sure these were fights, or a bunch of exibitions? I just find it hard to believe a guy can have 75 fights in one year.

he nust have never been cut. or even hit.
These were all legitimate professional contests. I have traced all of them to an original documented source.

In the East End of London, back in 1911, most people were struggling to earn enough to eat. Boxing was one way out of this. Men like Marks fought to put food on the table. He would have been hit plenty I can assure you and getting cut would not have prevented him from getting back into the ring quickly, this was an occupational hazard that one just put up with. There was no Board of Control, no doctor in attendance, no medical, no weigh-in for a six rounder and virtually no protection for the boxer at all. He was expected to fight hard and entertain the crowd.

Len Wickwar took part in 60 professional contests in 1934. Five of these were 15 rounders, twenty-six of them were 12 rounders, twenty-two of them were 10 rounders and he also had five 8 rounders and a 4 round contest. I find this to be a much more amazing feat than Marks' 75 contests in a year given that Marks' bouts were mainly six rounders.

Probably all of Wickwar's bouts, and definitely all of Marks' bouts, were two minute round affairs.

Hope you find this interesting

Re: Most fights in 1 year?

Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 19:43
by L.A. kidd
well, ok, they were very much a tough bunch of fighters.