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Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 15:50
by diddy
Dude is shot to pieces.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 15:54
by kidbazooka1
Yup he's getting whooped on and almost stopped.
He needs to hang em up.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 15:59
by diddy
-5000 favorite. Getting smashed. Unless of course this fix is in.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 16:09
by FloydtheDuck
That knockdown was nasty. Gotta think anyone with power at 147 would have finished him off there
Crazy he showed a good beard in Thurman fight. And now a guy with 5 knockouts is dropping him
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 16:10
by kidbazooka1
diddy wrote:-5000 favorite. Getting smashed. Unless of course this fix is in.
Its embarrassing.
Guerrero is behind heading into the last rd but wouldn't be surprised to see him get the w.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 16:17
by diddy
diddy wrote:-5000 favorite. Getting smashed. Unless of course this fix is in.
Knew it.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 16:19
by kidbazooka1
diddy wrote:diddy wrote:-5000 favorite. Getting smashed. Unless of course this fix is in.
Knew it.
Yup that fix was it.
Haymon must want to use Guerrero for one of his "championship" fighters.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 16:20
by PsychoGamerTwo
fornicating joke... Thurman broke him.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 16:23
by diddy
Haymon only has to pay off 2 judges.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 16:35
by BoxBuzz
It was a draw. And the wide card was wrong....the other two were reasonable.
I don't think Martinez deserved the win, just because he dropped his man....though that was a nice moment.
Robert showed good resilience to bring it back to a draw.....the fact that he got a win in his home town should be no surprise.
I could see either fighter winning it by a round, though if you take away their reputations, and any preconceived notions, Robert showed the better guts in coming back.
In the bigger context and with all preconceived notions factored, Martinez pulled off a shocker and deserves credit. This should have been a walk in the park, and Robert got mugged.
No crime committed here though. Predictable slight edge to the home town fella.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 16:39
by FloydtheDuck
Feel the same ^
I only gave him 3 other rounds outside the big round he had
95-94 Guerrero is how I had it. Not a big crime
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 17:03
by hurricanemitch14
He hasnt looked good at 147 period. Fun fight against Berto but Berto aint that great. Was decent in the lower weight where he would maul and break ya down, cant do it at top level at 147.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 17:32
by Badhusker
It really makes you scratch your head why Khan has been afraid to fight him. Guerrero has said at least two times that Khan turned down the fight with him. It would seem to me that Guerrero would be style-perfect for someone like Khan.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 17:59
by BoxBuzz
Badhusker wrote:It really makes you scratch your head why Khan has been afraid to fight him. Guerrero has said at least two times that Khan turned down the fight with him. It would seem to me that Guerrero would be style-perfect for someone like Khan.
Why take the risk....he's trying to positiion himself to cruise to a big payday, sacrificial loss to Money. Better to lose with high pay, than to fight a great fight for fair pay. Robert's got heart, and win or lose, he's going to take a toll on you. Not sure Amir want's that unless there is no alternative.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 18:12
by Badhusker
True, Khan lined up the formidable Luis Collazo before the formidable CA. . Can anyone name a guy that Collazo beat before Ortiz quit on him? I didn't think so. Khan takes no risks unless there is a career payday behind it.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 20:07
by Bobbyptsd
Badhusker wrote:True, Khan lined up the formidable Luis Collazo before the formidable CA. . Can anyone name a guy that Collazo beat before Ortiz quit on him? I didn't think so. Khan takes no risks unless there is a career payday behind it.
There's only one, indeed.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 20:17
by kcharles520
What the hell was Guerrero thinking in the beginning of that fight???
Had he simply boxed the guy in the center of the ring all match he would have won so much easier.
Instead he lets Martinez pin him into the ropes and trade inside blows for entire rounds early on. Took all kinds of ridiculously unnecessary head shots and had to mount a ridiculous comeback -- it could have been a cakewalk fight for him all 10 rounds had he not being absolutely brain-dead in the beginning there lol.
Oh and the 97-92 judge was smoking crack...95-94 at best for Guerrero.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 20:19
by Bard of Boxrec
Badhusker wrote:True, Khan lined up the formidable Luis Collazo before the formidable CA. . Can anyone name a guy that Collazo beat before Ortiz quit on him? I didn't think so. Khan takes no risks unless there is a career payday behind it.
Hatton
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 20:50
by Tomasino
Riddick Blowe wrote:Badhusker wrote:True, Khan lined up the formidable Luis Collazo before the formidable CA. . Can anyone name a guy that Collazo beat before Ortiz quit on him? I didn't think so. Khan takes no risks unless there is a career payday behind it.
Hatton
I scored it for Luis too.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 21:53
by diddy
kcharles520 wrote:What the hell was Guerrero thinking in the beginning of that fight???
Had he simply boxed the guy in the center of the ring all match he would have won so much easier.
Instead he lets Martinez pin him into the ropes and trade inside blows for entire rounds early on. Took all kinds of ridiculously unnecessary head shots and had to mount a ridiculous comeback -- it could have been a cakewalk fight for him all 10 rounds had he not being absolutely brain-dead in the beginning there lol.
Oh and the 97-92 judge was smoking crack...95-94 at best for Guerrero.
He was thinking I don't need to take this guy serious. Then he got knocked down and started to actually box. Terrible performance either way. A lot of tread on those tires.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 06:42
by caldo2025
I just think he underestimated this guy yesterday. He thought that he could win this one like he did two fights ago, with his back against the ropes the whole fight throwing bombs. This guy was clearly better inside than he thought. When he finally started listening to his Dad and stayed off the ropes, the fight was easy. Guerrero is not done yet. I don't think. He could be but i'd like to see him one more time.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 07:02
by Badhusker
Tomasino wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:Badhusker wrote:True, Khan lined up the formidable Luis Collazo before the formidable CA. . Can anyone name a guy that Collazo beat before Ortiz quit on him? I didn't think so. Khan takes no risks unless there is a career payday behind it.
Hatton
I scored it for Luis too.
He fought close, but that is really all that Collazo has done. He has lost every big fight he has been in. The Hatton fight, btw, was 2006 - 9 years ago.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 08:55
by armageto
Badhusker wrote:
He fought close, but that is really all that Collazo has done. He has lost every big fight he has been in. The Hatton fight, btw, was 2006 - 9 years ago.
One can argue he also beat Berto, for what its worth.......
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 12:16
by Yes We Can
In beating Collazo Amir fought and beat a true Welterweight, who had just come off a decent scalp against Victor Ortiz.
If he fought and beat Guerrero people would likely have said Guerrero isnt a 147 and poo pooed his victory.
Re: Robert Guerrero - please retire
Posted: 07 Jun 2015, 13:17
by Tanzio
Shouldn't there be a Kell Brook v The Ghost fight announced before long?