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Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 09 Jun 2015, 20:25
by chad
Can't believe he's ranked so highly. We still have no idea if he can take a punch, has the stamina to go 12 rounds or what happens if he faces someone who can take his punches. Surely Eddie won't rush him into a world title fight?

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 09 Jun 2015, 20:29
by Bobbyptsd
That is odd, usually the WBC looks at performances and ranks fighters according to abili......

.....Nah, I can't even finish that.

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 09 Jun 2015, 22:53
by TheGman
chad wrote:Can't believe he's ranked so highly. We still have no idea if he can take a punch, has the stamina to go 12 rounds or what happens if he faces someone who can take his punches. Surely Eddie won't rush him into a world title fight?
What about wilder didnt he blow everyone away and ppl asking if he can take a punch,he is the champ now. Doesnt matter about takin a punch heavyweights punch hard and if caught clean most will b stunned or taken out anyway look at wlad everytime he gets hit he looks stunned

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 00:39
by Tarkus
Question you should be asking is how did Joshua become 2nd without fighting anyone in top 15. That is in the nutshell the problem with HW division, contenders don't fight each other.

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 00:59
by ScottDetonator
He must be above Fury then?

So the win over Johnson puts him higher than - Fury, Stiverne, Jennings(I think he was all ready above Jennings after 12 fights)? I don't think Pulev is in the top 15 with the WBC.

Strange rankings, built on hype more than actual content.

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 03:34
by MarkMcBurney
ScottDetonator wrote:He must be above Fury then?

So the win over Johnson puts him higher than - Fury, Stiverne, Jennings(I think he was all ready above Jennings after 12 fights)? I don't think Pulev is in the top 15 with the WBC.

Strange rankings, built on hype more than actual content.
Fury not rated by WBC.

EDIT:

1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia) SILVER
2 .- Anthony Joshua (GB) INTL
3 .- Vyacheslav Glazkov (Ukraine)
4 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada)
5 .- Bryant Jennings (US)
6 .- Lucas Browne (Australia)
7 .- Eric Molina (US)
8 .- Andy Ruiz (Mexico) NABF
9 .- Artur Szpilka (Poland)
10 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon)
11 .- Tony Thompson (US) AMERICA
12 .- Chris Arreola (US)
13 .- Johann Duhaupas (France)
14 .- Mike Perez (Cuba/Ireland)
15 .- Kyotaro Fujimoto (Japan)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16 .- Manuel Charr (Lebanon/Syria) BALTIC
17 .- Billy Wright (US) LATINO/FECARBOX
18 .- Andrey Fedosov (Russia)
19 .- Derek Chisora (GB)
20 .- Shannon Briggs (US)
21 .- Steve Cunningham (US)
22 .- Charles Martin (US)
23 .- Erkan Teper (Germany)
24 .- Amir Mansour (US)
25 .- David Price (GB)
26 .- Edmund Gerber (Germany) INTL SILVER
27 .- Herve Hubeaux (Belgium) YOUTH/FRANCOPHONE
28 .- Alexander Ustinov (Russia)
29 .- Mariusz Wach (Poland)
30 .- Malik Scott (US)
31 .- Joseph Parker (New Zealand)
32 .- Hughie Fury (GB)
33 .- Arnold Gjergjaj (Switzerland)
34 .- Marcin Rekowski (Poland)
35 .- Dominic Breazeale (US)
36 .- Gerald Washington (US)
37 .- Eddie Chambers (US)
38 .- Derric Rossy (US)
39 .- Ergun Mersin (Switzerland)
40 .- Oscar Rivas (Canada/Colombia)

* NA = NOT AVAILABLE
Ruslan Chagaev (Uzbekistan/Germany) WBA Champion
Luis Ortiz (Cuba) * NA - Legal
Kubrat Pulev (Bulgaria) * NA - IBF
Fres Oquendo (P. Rico) * NA - WBA
Agit Kabayel (Turkey) * NA - Legal
Tyson Fury (GB) * NA - WBA

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 03:58
by JC
I assume he's that high because the fight with Johnson was for the WBC "International" title. Not sure what the criteria for a fight being sanctioned for that title is.

edit: my mistake the fight with Baktov was for the WBC International Title, all very confusing

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 04:27
by milpool
MarkMcBurney wrote:
1 .- Alexander Povetkin (Russia) SILVER
2 .- Anthony Joshua (GB) INTL
3 .- Vyacheslav Glazkov (Ukraine)
4 .- Bermane Stiverne (Haiti/Canada)
5 .- Bryant Jennings (US)
6 .- Lucas Browne (Australia)
7 .- Eric Molina (US)
8 .- Andy Ruiz (Mexico) NABF
9 .- Artur Szpilka (Poland)
10 .- Carlos Takam (Cameroon)
11 .- Tony Thompson (US) AMERICA
12 .- Chris Arreola (US)
13 .- Johann Duhaupas (France)
14 .- Mike Perez (Cuba/Ireland)
15 .- Kyotaro Fujimoto (Japan)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

16 .- Manuel Charr (Lebanon/Syria) BALTIC
17 .- Billy Wright (US) LATINO/FECARBOX
18 .- Andrey Fedosov (Russia)
19 .- Derek Chisora (GB)
20 .- Shannon Briggs (US)
21 .- Steve Cunningham (US)
22 .- Charles Martin (US)
23 .- Erkan Teper (Germany)
24 .- Amir Mansour (US)
25 .- David Price (GB)
26 .- Edmund Gerber (Germany) INTL SILVER
27 .- Herve Hubeaux (Belgium) YOUTH/FRANCOPHONE
28 .- Alexander Ustinov (Russia)
29 .- Mariusz Wach (Poland)
30 .- Malik Scott (US)
31 .- Joseph Parker (New Zealand)
32 .- Hughie Fury (GB)
33 .- Arnold Gjergjaj (Switzerland)
34 .- Marcin Rekowski (Poland)
35 .- Dominic Breazeale (US)
36 .- Gerald Washington (US)
37 .- Eddie Chambers (US)
38 .- Derric Rossy (US)
39 .- Ergun Mersin (Switzerland)
40 .- Oscar Rivas (Canada/Colombia)

* NA = NOT AVAILABLE
Ruslan Chagaev (Uzbekistan/Germany) WBA Champion
Luis Ortiz (Cuba) * NA - Legal
Kubrat Pulev (Bulgaria) * NA - IBF
Fres Oquendo (P. Rico) * NA - WBA
Agit Kabayel (Turkey) * NA - Legal
Tyson Fury (GB) * NA - WBA
Looking at that list makes me weep for heavyweight boxing.

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 05:03
by keirw
ScottDetonator wrote:He must be above Fury then?

So the win over Johnson puts him higher than - Fury, Stiverne, Jennings(I think he was all ready above Jennings after 12 fights)? I don't think Pulev is in the top 15 with the WBC.

Strange rankings, built on hype more than actual content.
Pulev and Fury were dropped out of the WBC rankings because they fought in eliminators for the IBF and WBO, respectively.
Yet Jennings is still ranked, despite recently challenging for those same titles.

I'd say they are making it up as they go along.
They also made Wilder vs Scott a final eliminator, despite Scott being ranked 20-something at the time

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 05:20
by Marlo Stanfield
£££££££

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 06:13
by Stuarty
They best start moving Joshua up a level or two and fast then because potentially he could be in line for a crack at the WBC this time next year! The rankings are farcical though in all honesty!

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 06:19
by Counter-puncher
#stayhumble

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 06:30
by freddydoesdallas
Marlo Stanfield wrote:£££££££
you cynic!!!

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 06:51
by Tarkus
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Marlo Stanfield wrote:£££££££
you cynic!!!
Cant be, its not FIFA.

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 10:11
by mullenman
This is the bullshit side of boxing

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 15:15
by dbf
Povetkin V Joshua in September please :D

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 15:52
by baron_otto
dbf wrote:Povetkin V Joshua in September please :D
Actually now you say that it could be an interesting fight. Povetkin isn't the most dynamic fighter so if AJ boxed well it would be a good test of his ability. Make it happy Eddie,

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 16:20
by Horse
Joshua being at No. 2 with the WBC is no worse than Browne being No. 3 with the WBA (with No. 1 vacant), Charles Martin being No. 2 with the WBO & No. 5 with the IBF (No. 2 vacant) or Andy Ruiz Jr being No. 3 with the WBO.

Joshua is now generally considered to be a top 15 world ranked heavyweight, so him having high rankings with the big four organizations is not surprising.

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 17:30
by MightyWarrior
On the one hand Eddie will be pleased that he obviously doesn't have to work very hard to get his man a title shot, but he probably knew that anyway, and on the other hand, he won't be too pleased to see him that high up the rankings, which is just ridiculous.

It's just a sign of the greedy, grasping boxing organisations desperate for what they see as a box office fighter, to be associated with their belt, and all the money it might bring in.

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 17:30
by chad
It's bad news when this guy is calling for the WBC to be investigated over this :lol:

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Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 07:44
by Bard of Boxrec
chad wrote:It's bad news when this guy is calling for the WBC to be investigated over this :lol:

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:lol:

Re: Anthony Joshua ranked number 2 by WBC

Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 09:35
by Coco
Wilder will have to pick his opponents carefully to stay champ, maybe this is a good time to take on Joshua