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Julian Williams comes to mind. I don't know about better but he's a great talent too.

Williams is solid but I haven't been particularly impressed. He appears fairly basic skill-wise to me and unlike some other top fighters who I think this applies to he doesn't seem particularly fast or hard-hitting either.

Spence, on the other hand, stands out to me as an exceptional talent and I think that he'll at least win a title and become one of the better champs in the game.

Frankie Gomez
Rau'shee Warren

Both should be champions one day.

Is Erickson Lubin from the U.S. originally? I can't recall, so I went to check the database and got scared because I figured my computer had to be infected with some particularly vicious malware when I saw it.

I'm not saying he's better, but he's pretty impressive to me. He's the only guy off the top of my head I thought of when reading the question.

You never know. Someone new might come along in the next month or so. And the next month after that.

Will see the way Boxing is run today...It's going to take some very good matchmaking for someone like Spence who I believe fights for Heyman to make a rapid rise to stardom. It's more like a slow elevator ride going up 15 stories now a days..

Will see...

I am not sure how haymon is going to make any of his guys into stars. Right now, most of the stars or the guys you would need to beat to become a star are with HBO.

Only guy from Haymons stable that i can maybe see becoming a huge star is Wilder and he could (not that he necessarily will) fight the big names in his division without the HBO barrier.

At 175: Stevenson will never fight Kovalev and Hopkins are with HBO or golden boy
At 168: No body good here
160: Jacobs or Quillen aren't going to become stars without beating GGG, cotto, or canelo
154: Not going to be a star unless you fight canelo
147: Hes got floyd, but the other biggest names (bradley, JMM, Pac) are all Top rank. Keith Thurman isn't going to become a star beating porter
140: Crawford, Mathysse, Provodnikov all HBO
135: who cares
130: Who cares
126: Mares and santa cruz aren't going to become stars fighting each other. Have to beat a lomachenko or walters.

So Haymon has a ton of dudes, many of them are good, but I just don't see how he is going to parlay that into stardom for any of them, including errol spence.

Amir Imam has big potential IMO

I was watching Caleb Plant fight, he looks like he might go somewhere.

Good skill, attractive looking to the general public, and showed a couple tricks up his sleeve to make people interested.

Ain't no better US of mother f'n A prospect that The Sargeant Sammy Vasquez Jr.
I like that Erickson Lubin kid too. I seen him and that beast Khrytov at CONSOL.
Anyone know when Kryhtov fight again?

The irony is we all said the same thing about Broner, Russell, and Berto. I do think Russell will still surprise many.

jewboypgh wrote:Ain't no better US of mother f'n A prospect that The Sargeant Sammy Vasquez Jr.
I like that Erickson Lubin kid too. I seen him and that beast Khrytov at CONSOL.
Anyone know when Kryhtov fight again?

clearly bias for ur hometown fighters

jewboypgh wrote:Ain't no better US of mother f'n A prospect that The Sargeant Sammy Vasquez Jr.
I like that Erickson Lubin kid too. I seen him and that beast Khrytov at CONSOL.
Anyone know when Kryhtov fight again?

Khytrov is Ukrainian. His American promoter keeps making boxrec change his nationality to American on the site. He competes for Ukraine and comes in with the Ukrainian flag into the ring every fight.

haven't seen Lubin fight anyone I ever heard of to know enough to test him

He needs a real test before I jump on the bandwagon.

maybe garry russell, he looked tremendous in his last fight. his speed is top notch.

verballistic wrote:

Badhusker wrote:He needs a real test before I jump on the bandwagon.

If its Spence you're talking about, I'm already on his bandwagon. Time will TELL...

Yes it is Spence I am referring to. He seems like the real deal, for sure. Not quite sure he is ready for someone like Thurman, Porter, or Brook at this time, but would love to see him against any of the top guys. Maybe he beats them all? Maybe he could fight Khan next? He is definitely and exiting prospect, and we will see him on Floyd's undercard in September. Its kind of funny that in an interview, Thurman didn't seem too excited about facing Spence...which tells me he knows what kind of talent Spence has.

Amir Imam,Frankie Gomez,Tommy Robinson,Sadam Ali,Jermall Charlo,Gary Russell jr.All come to mind.

psychod1986 wrote:Amir Imam,Frankie Gomez,Tommy Robinson,Sadam Ali,Jermall Charlo,Gary Russell jr.All come to mind.

So Ali would beat Spence right now in your eyes?

No i don't think Ali coul beat spence right now,but he is a great usa prospect right now,It would be a competitive fight but i doubt he would beat spence.

psychod1986 wrote:No i don't think Ali coul beat spence right now,but he is a great usa prospect right now,It would be a competitive fight but i doubt he would beat spence.

How can someone be a better prospect in the same division but Ali wouldnt beat Spence in ur eyes?

verballistic wrote:

psychod1986 wrote:Amir Imam,Frankie Gomez,Tommy Robinson,Sadam Ali,Jermall Charlo,Gary Russell jr.All come to mind.

Havent heard of Tommy Robinson but if you mean Tony Harrison, I agree he is right up there as a top prospect. As for Russell, he already holds a major belt since he demolished Jhonny Gonzalez for the WBC title. The rest are legit prospects though...thanks for the input.

When does a fighter turn from prospect to another term because of Russell and Charlo or even Ali I see them more as contenders than prospects.

Yea i meant Tony Harrison thanks for correct me sir,the detroit t kid

Spence would tear thru Ali imo

verballistic wrote:

world ranked wrote:

verballistic wrote:
When does a fighter turn from prospect to another term because of Russell and Charlo or even Ali I see them more as contenders than prospects.

IMO a fighter is no longer a prospect when he wins a major world title (Russell) or becomes a legit top 10 fighter (Jermell Charlo after the win over Martirosyan). I dont think too many people have Ali in their worldwide top 10, so like Spence, I still consider him a prospect. In fact I dont have much doubt that Spence would defeat Ali if they fought right now. IMO at best Ali would be even money vs Spence.