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Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 13:31
by Freedom2013
Andre Ward on BET scored 325 thousand viewers with a 0.09 demographic rating to finish in 71st place in Saturday's cable ratings list.
That's worse than Lara got on Spike. :(
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/s ... -2015.html
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 14:34
by chucktaylor
Although he was not a huge draw at any point, Ward has gone off peoples radars by not fighting. He returned against an opponent no one was very excited to see him against on a day when there was a bigger card in Vegas, so his shouldn't be a surprise at all. He needs to reestablish himself with fans and there are a few opponents he could take on to regain recognition as one of the best in the sport. A lot of people want to see him against Golovkin, but short of that, there could be Froch rematch, Kovalev at 175, and recently Degale has come into prominence at 168.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 15:18
by palooka
Ward boxed beautifully against Smith, if he boxes like that again against high class opposition he'll get more fans guaranteed - there was no mauling no holding, lots of very clean hitting and a brilliant display of every punch in the book.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 16:21
by ikorolev
palooka wrote:Ward boxed beautifully against Smith, if he boxes like that again against high class opposition he'll get more fans guaranteed - there was no mauling no holding, lots of very clean hitting and a brilliant display of every punch in the book.
He wasn't mauling or holding because he didn't need to. When he faces somebody who can hurt him, then he is abusing holding.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 17:07
by SenorPipino
Sounds like you have a grudge of some sort against Ward, Ikory.
Maybe it's because, deep (or not so deep) in your heart, you know that he'll eventually whip your beloved GGG or that other, bigger Russian guy if the bouts are ever arranged.
Class eventually rises to the top.
I wouldn't make too much of the ratings. Viewers were already watching the Broner card on NBC when the telecast began, and besides, BET isn't a cable network that most people go to for boxing. When's the last time BET televised a fight?
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 17:17
by ikorolev
No grudge, just stating what is known to everybody: Ward is doing excessive holding.
I hope the fight with Golovkin happens, so that Gennady can prove that you are full of sh1t like Kovalev did previously.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 17:52
by punchoutsb
ikorolev wrote:No grudge, just stating what is known to everybody: Ward is doing excessive holding.
I hope the fight with Golovkin happens, so that Gennady can prove that you are full of sh1t like Kovalev did previously.
Poor poor senor pipino never recovered from the Kovalev/Hopkins beatdown...he's been crying ever since pausing only to come and rag on the "russians" on boxrec a bit to make himself feel a little better.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 19:05
by victor-romeo
ikorolev wrote:No grudge, just stating what is known to everybody: Ward is doing excessive holding.
I hope the fight with Golovkin happens, so that Gennady can prove that you are full of sh1t like Kovalev did previously.
I think Ward KO's GGG at 168 and Kovalev beats Ward at 175.
The main reason GGG loses is not because he is a less talented boxer than Ward but he is the smaller human being.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 19:07
by victor-romeo
How do you think Ward looked after the long layoff? I thought his opponent didn't perform that well, but Ward looked very solid physically.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 19:40
by Evander
Maybe the numbers were low but it was on BET which might be an extra speciality channel people have to pay extra for depending on their region , not an excuse for Ward but it might have played a role who knows.
As for Andre himself he looked fairly good, his jab was sharp and he worked well on the inside although Paul Smith did catch him well somewhere during the mid rounds, it might have been the 7th I'll have to watch it again.
I think Ward needs 1 more tune up against an upped opponent from Smith and he should be ready to roll against the top boys.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 20:07
by Freedom2013
victor-romeo wrote:How do you think Ward looked after the long layoff? I thought his opponent didn't perform that well, but Ward looked very solid physically.
Ward looked okay. He didn't hold as much as usual, but Smith was just there for the cheque and didn't test him.
What was most disappointing is that Ward felt he needed to cut Smith over the eye with a head butt. Perhaps he realized he's feather-fisted, and his flush punches have little effect unless the opponent has a cut. Without the head butts, he could have easily cruised to a wide decision win though - he was in no danger of losing.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 20:53
by BAD INTENTIONS
It makes 100% sense that Freedom doesn't understand BET.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 21:04
by KBB
palooka wrote:Ward boxed beautifully against Smith, if he boxes like that again against high class opposition he'll get more fans guaranteed - there was no mauling no holding, lots of very clean hitting and a brilliant display of every punch in the book.
Unfortunately only people without an ulterior motive will see things this way, they won't go out of their way to find something negative to say about him just because the of his ethnicity.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 21:05
by punchoutsb
Do you guys ever get tired of race baiting?
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 21:09
by JCS
My stomach started feeling sick when I saw Stephen Curry leading the Ward entourage.
In any event, who wanted to watch this useless squash match? We all knew it was going to be a glorified sparring session. Furthermore, I saw ZERO advertising for this fight...
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 21:13
by Evander
JCS wrote:My stomach started feeling sick when I saw Stephen Curry leading the Ward entourage.
Why did you feel that way ?
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 21:18
by Evander
On this thread I don't see why Freedom is being attacked albeit in a subtle way.
He never attacked Ward because of his skin colour.
Head butts - I didn't see it, perhaps he could point out what round he's talking about and I'll take a look at it closely.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 21:26
by punchoutsb
Evander wrote:On this thread I don't see why Freedom is being attacked albeit in a subtle way.
He never attacked Ward because of his skin colour.
Head butts - I didn't see it, perhaps he could point out what round he's talking about and I'll take a look at it closely.
It's because the easily offended crew is easily offended.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 21:28
by Freedom2013
KBB wrote:Unfortunately only people without an ulterior motive will see things this way, they won't go out of their way to find something negative to say about him just because the of his ethnicity.
That's not true. I've had many friends of Irish heritage like Ward's father. I used to hang around a lot with someone named Ward when I was a boy - he was a nice guy.
And I wouldn't attack someone because he's African-American on his mother's side either - I was rooting for Green, Dawson and Bika when they fought Ward.
Evander wrote: On this thread I don't see why Freedom is being attacked albeit in a subtle way.
He never attacked Ward because of his skin colour.
Thanks.
Evander wrote: Head butts - I didn't see it, perhaps he could point out what round he's talking about and I'll take a look at it closely.
It was a middle round. I can't recall exactly which it was, but I downloaded the fight today so I'll re-watch it sometime during the next few days and post the exact round and time in this thread.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 21:38
by Evander
Freedom2013 wrote:KBB wrote:Unfortunately only people without an ulterior motive will see things this way, they won't go out of their way to find something negative to say about him just because the of his ethnicity.
That's not true. I've had many friends of Irish heritage like Ward's father. I used to hang around a lot with someone named Ward when I was a boy - he was a nice guy.
And I wouldn't attack someone because he's African-American on his mother's side either - I was rooting for Green, Dawson and Bika when they fought Ward.
Evander wrote: On this thread I don't see why Freedom is being attacked albeit in a subtle way.
He never attacked Ward because of his skin colour.
Thanks.
Evander wrote: Head butts - I didn't see it, perhaps he could point out what round he's talking about and I'll take a look at it closely.
It was a middle round. I can't recall exactly which it was, but I downloaded the fight today so I'll re-watch it sometime during the next few days and post the exact round and time in this thread.
Sounds fair to me.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 23 Jun 2015, 22:06
by diddy
Considering about 8 ppl watch BET these are actually pretty amazing numbers.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 11:46
by SenorPipino
diddy wrote:Considering about 8 ppl watch BET these are actually pretty amazing numbers.
Of course, that ridiculous (c)rap performance right before the main event may have had most of those 8 viewers quickly tuning out.
Why do they force viewers to sit through that garbage?
Must have been the brainchild of RocNation. Even Cotto looked nauseated.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 15:43
by Boxing Prospect
....was it not up against the fight of the weekend?...Kind of a hard sell "Wanna watch Ward beat a British bum or that good looking Canadian guy smash someones head in?"
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 15:49
by ikorolev
Boxing Prospect wrote:....was it not up against the fight of the weekend?...Kind of a hard sell "Wanna watch Ward beat a British bum or that good looking Canadian guy smash someones head in?"
The Ward fight started after both Porter vs Broner and Lemieux vs N'Dam were over.
Re: Andre Ward has poor rating on BET
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 16:04
by punchoutsb
ikorolev wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:....was it not up against the fight of the weekend?...Kind of a hard sell "Wanna watch Ward beat a British bum or that good looking Canadian guy smash someones head in?"
The Ward fight started after both Porter vs Broner and Lemieux vs N'Dam were over.
It was on concurrently with Lemieux/N'Dam; I switched up to it occasionally during commercials.