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GGG starts work on making 154 ???
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 08:48
by ikorolev
http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2015/06/ ... ake-154lbs?
I think it is pretty stupid to do that based on Floyd's talking. Floyd often throws a bunch of names he has no intention to fight. Besides, Floyd could demand 150 or even 148 which would be way too much of a weight cut for Gennady.
Re: GGG starts worki on making 154 ???
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 08:51
by tiny_acres
ikorolev wrote:http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2015/06/ ... ake-154lbs?
I think it is pretty stupid to do that based on Floyd's talking. Floyd often throws a bunch of names he has no intention to fight. Besides, Floyd could demand 150 or even 148 which would be way too much of a weight cut for Gennady.
Dude no one honestly thinks there is even a chance of this fight happening.
What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 09:19
by Chepppaaa
he realy seems sick of middleweight and wants to build himself as an superstar of boxing.
he is known to be a hardworker and i guess he is right now sliming down to 154.
will he lose to much energy or will he become a 154-destroyer and become the superstar he wants to be by challenging cotto, canelo, lara, charlo bros., etc.?
I mean GGG @154 would be one of the best descisions in boxing period. so many welterweight could face him like maidana or thurman, along with all the top 154 boxers.
Re: GGG starts work on making 154 ???
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 09:19
by ikorolev
Exactly, so why Loefler and Sanchez want him to cut weight ? Just for 5% chance to fight Floyd ? Or for 10% chance to fight DLH ? Or they are preparing to fight Cotto vs Canelo winner at 155 ?
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 09:21
by ikorolev
He (as are all his fans) is sick of middleweight COWARDS avoiding him. I think that team GGG also needs to expose Lara as a pure talker by trying to make a fight with him at 160.
Re: GGG starts work on making 154 ???
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 17:13
by Pureist
Great to see, there is some big cages to rattle there
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 21:01
by KBB
ikorolev wrote:He (as are all his fans) is sick of middleweight COWARDS avoiding him. I think that team GGG also needs to expose Lara as a pure talker by trying to make a fight with him at 160.
I somehow doubt that Lara was just talking, he not only called him out and didn't mention draining him, he wants him at 160.
There is another way to look at this but I'm sure that you Triple G fans won't like it; it is possible that he may be slimming up to drop to 154 because he knows that Ward is back and sooner or later he would have to fight him. So it's very possible he could be running scared.
He has no fights at 60 and Ward doesn't have his next fight yet, this would be the perfect time to fight for both of them.
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 21:16
by punchoutsb
KBB wrote:ikorolev wrote:He (as are all his fans) is sick of middleweight COWARDS avoiding him. I think that team GGG also needs to expose Lara as a pure talker by trying to make a fight with him at 160.
I somehow doubt that Lara was just talking, he not only called him out and didn't mention draining him, he wants him at 160.
There is another way to look at this but I'm sure that you Triple G fans won't like it; it is possible that he may be slimming up to drop to 154 because he knows that Ward is back and sooner or later he would have to fight him. So it's very possible he could be running scared.
He has no fights at 60 and Ward doesn't have his next fight yet, this would be the perfect time to fight for both of them.
You can't "run scared" from someone who isn't even in your weight class. GGG is closer to 154 than 168. GGG has weighed in UNDER 160 in 27 of his 33 fights, and the last time he weighed in at 160 was 2013.
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 21:25
by KBB
punchoutsb wrote:You can't "run scared" from someone who isn't even in your weight class. GGG is closer to 154 than 168. GGG has weighed in UNDER 160 in 27 of his 33 fights, and the last time he weighed in at 160 was 2013.
I see that quote made all the time here whenever y'all reference a fight between GGG and Floyd, so why not the other way around?
Stop making excuses for GGG, Ward doesn't have a dance partner and neither does he, now is the prime time for both of them to fight.
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 21:39
by ikorolev
KBB wrote:ikorolev wrote:He (as are all his fans) is sick of middleweight COWARDS avoiding him. I think that team GGG also needs to expose Lara as a pure talker by trying to make a fight with him at 160.
I somehow doubt that Lara was just talking, he not only called him out and didn't mention draining him, he wants him at 160.
There is another way to look at this but I'm sure that you Triple G fans won't like it; it is possible that he may be slimming up to drop to 154 because he knows that Ward is back and sooner or later he would have to fight him. So it's very possible he could be running scared.
He has no fights at 60 and Ward doesn't have his next fight yet, this would be the perfect time to fight for both of them.
I heard that Ward is planning to fight some bum like Macarinelli at the full LHW limit.
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 21:42
by ikorolev
KBB wrote:punchoutsb wrote:You can't "run scared" from someone who isn't even in your weight class. GGG is closer to 154 than 168. GGG has weighed in UNDER 160 in 27 of his 33 fights, and the last time he weighed in at 160 was 2013.
I see that quote made all the time here whenever y'all reference a fight between GGG and Floyd, so why not the other way around?
Stop making excuses for GGG, Ward doesn't have a dance partner and neither does he, now is the prime time for both of them to fight.
If Ward wants to fight GGG, he better send an offer soon before Gennady cuts weight. I suspect that when Gennady is close to 154, there will be a bunch of super middles calling him out. Maybe even Froch will stop hiding.
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 22:15
by punchoutsb
KBB wrote:punchoutsb wrote:You can't "run scared" from someone who isn't even in your weight class. GGG is closer to 154 than 168. GGG has weighed in UNDER 160 in 27 of his 33 fights, and the last time he weighed in at 160 was 2013.
I see that quote made all the time here whenever y'all reference a fight between GGG and Floyd, so why not the other way around?
Stop making excuses for GGG, Ward doesn't have a dance partner and neither does he, now is the prime time for both of them to fight.
Well I never said it, so my statement stands.
Stop making excuses for Floyd, GGG doesn't have a dance partner and neither does he. You always seem to care so much about Floyd making the best financial choices when picking opponents, why don't you start caring about Triple G too?

Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 07:16
by KBB
punchoutsb wrote:Well I never said it, so my statement stands.
Stop making excuses for Floyd, GGG doesn't have a dance partner and neither does he. You always seem to care so much about Floyd making the best financial choices when picking opponents, why don't you start caring about Triple G too?

Personally I don't care about either of them, I just want to see the big bad wolf (Triple G) since he's this killer move up and prove himself instead of moving down to try and bully on smaller fighters.
Why y'all so trying to make all these excuses for him, if any other fighter moved down for a "money" fight when his most meaningful fight is only a few pounds up you know that we'd hear the words "ducking" or "running" or "scared".
There is a huge double standard here but I guess Triple G gets a pass because money is now more important than legacy, aren't you the guys who are always crying about "legacy"?
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 08:24
by Pureist
KBB wrote:punchoutsb wrote:Well I never said it, so my statement stands.
Stop making excuses for Floyd, GGG doesn't have a dance partner and neither does he. You always seem to care so much about Floyd making the best financial choices when picking opponents, why don't you start caring about Triple G too?

Personally I don't care about either of them, I just want to see the big bad wolf (Triple G) since he's this killer move up and prove himself instead of moving down to try and bully on smaller fighters.
Why y'all so trying to make all these excuses for him, if any other fighter moved down for a "money" fight when his most meaningful fight is only a few pounds up you know that we'd hear the words "ducking" or "running" or "scared".
There is a huge double standard here but I guess Triple G gets a pass because money is now more important than legacy, aren't you the guys who are always crying about "legacy"?
if he moves down, doesnt that make him the same weight one day out, whats with the bully bit, hes 33, if he goes up now he will never make it back down to 154, so go down now and then go back up at a later date, a fight between P4P #1and #3 would be great, dont you think and more meaningful than ward who will probably move up anyway
Re: GGG starts work on making 154 ???
Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 08:38
by ikorolev
People will be ducking him at 154 the same way as at 160. I think all that sweat will be in vein.
Re: GGG starts work on making 154 ???
Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 09:18
by jamesmcdonnell
ikorolev wrote:People will be ducking him at 154 the same way as at 160. I think all that sweat will be in vein.
Sadly, I think this is probably true.
The only way that Golovkin is going to ever get the big fights, is to keep on destroying people, and fight regularly - that way he will continue to build viewing figures.
He has to keep busy, and keep on dispatching his opponents, because right now, he doesn't have the star power, to offer the kind of paydays that the other fighters at the top end of WW want to earn, in order to take their beatings.
Few fighters are going to want to get chewed up by GGG if they are near the top tier, and risk not just a loss, but a career shortening beating.
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 11:32
by punchoutsb
KBB wrote:punchoutsb wrote:Well I never said it, so my statement stands.
Stop making excuses for Floyd, GGG doesn't have a dance partner and neither does he. You always seem to care so much about Floyd making the best financial choices when picking opponents, why don't you start caring about Triple G too?

Personally I don't care about either of them, I just want to see the big bad wolf (Triple G) since he's this killer move up and prove himself instead of moving down to try and bully on smaller fighters.
Why y'all so trying to make all these excuses for him, if any other fighter moved down for a "money" fight when his most meaningful fight is only a few pounds up you know that we'd hear the words "ducking" or "running" or "scared".
There is a huge double standard here but I guess Triple G gets a pass because money is now more important than legacy, aren't you the guys who are always crying about "legacy"?
You're so terrified that Floyd will accept for some reason. It's ok, man. Don't sweat it. Floyd most likely won't fight GGG and there's nothing wrong with that! Rest easy brother, breathe. It's ok.
As for the rest of your garbage:
GGG is closer to 154 than 168. There are more "legacy" fights at 154 than 168.
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 00:26
by KBB
punchoutsb wrote:You're so terrified that Floyd will accept for some reason. It's ok, man. Don't sweat it. Floyd most likely won't fight GGG and there's nothing wrong with that! Rest easy brother, breathe. It's ok.
As for the rest of your garbage:
GGG is closer to 154 than 168. There are more "legacy" fights at 154 than 168.
Why would I be terrified, Floyd will beat him easily and all the rest of y'all will be around here making excuses as usual. GGG is 170 on fight night so stupid making excuses, you're terrified of Ward which is why you don't want GGG to face him.
Re: GGG starts work on making 154 ???
Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 00:30
by ikorolev
Ward got 2 mil for facing a bum. What will he want for facing GGG ? 10 mil ? Definitely not less than 5, and GGG will not fight him for less than 3. Where is that money ? If Roc Nation has it, they should send an offer.
Re: GGG starts worki on making 154 ???
Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 00:50
by bogan whisperer
tiny_acres wrote:ikorolev wrote:http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2015/06/ ... ake-154lbs?
I think it is pretty stupid to do that based on Floyd's talking. Floyd often throws a bunch of names he has no intention to fight. Besides, Floyd could demand 150 or even 148 which would be way too much of a weight cut for Gennady.
Dude no one honestly thinks there is even a chance of this fight happening.
Zero chance.
Re: GGG starts work on making 154 ???
Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 03:38
by crow
Maybe Bradley's serious ?
I can't see GGG going down for fighting guys like Lara, who bring nothing to the table.
But Bradley's a big enough name, he has a fanbase and doesn't ask for a fortune.
If GGG destroys him, the pressure will mount for a Canelo showdown at 154, with Lara as an appetizer.
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 07:29
by punchoutsb
KBB wrote:punchoutsb wrote:You're so terrified that Floyd will accept for some reason. It's ok, man. Don't sweat it. Floyd most likely won't fight GGG and there's nothing wrong with that! Rest easy brother, breathe. It's ok.
As for the rest of your garbage:
GGG is closer to 154 than 168. There are more "legacy" fights at 154 than 168.
Why would I be terrified, Floyd will beat him easily and all the rest of y'all will be around here making excuses as usual. GGG is 170 on fight night so stupid making excuses, you're terrified of Ward which is why you don't want GGG to face him.
Why would I be terrified of Ward? He seems like a cool guy, and I'm not a professional fighter.
GGG is still closer to 154 than 160.
Re: GGG starts work on making 154 ???
Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 08:06
by koolkc107
I will believe this when I see it.
I hope he does get down to 154, and I hope he is still effective at the weight.
But, I doubt it.
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 16:11
by KBB
punchoutsb wrote:Why would I be terrified of Ward? He seems like a cool guy, and I'm not a professional fighter.
GGG is still closer to 154 than 160.
You're terrified because you don't want him to get your boy since he know he will lose easily.
Re: What happens if GGG goes down @154!?
Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 16:23
by punchoutsb
KBB wrote:punchoutsb wrote:Why would I be terrified of Ward? He seems like a cool guy, and I'm not a professional fighter.
GGG is still closer to 154 than 160.
You're terrified because you don't want him to get your boy since he know he will lose easily.
Who's my boy, and what am I terrified of?
You're making yourself look like a fool (again), brother.
You want GGG to fight the best? No, you want him to fight the guy he's most likely to lose to in your own mind because you don't like him. If you *really* wanted him to fight the best, going to 154 would make more sense because there are more good fighters there than 168, including THE BEST. But in reality, you are afraid he can beat Floyd and that's why you are worried about this move. Your terror is unfounded though, because Floyd would beat GGG more easily than Ward, IMO. I'd favor Ward over GGG slightly. Floyd would be a pretty hefty favorite.
So don't sweat it. Triple G is just trying to line up some big money fights against the best guys out there. 154 is the place to be. And seeing as how he's a small middleweight as is (a point you've been ignoring), 154 makes even more sense. Stay cool.