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Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 09:33
by Pugilist-specialist
Wazza claims he made the match but Gallagher has rejected it.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 09:51
by Boxerbeetle
If true, I wouldn't blame Gallagher for rejecting it.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 10:09
by JimJim2009
I'd like to know when the promotional/management deal expires, it may shed light on the stances of fwank and Gallagher.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 10:17
by expe
JimJim2009 wrote:I'd like to know when the promotional/management deal expires, it may shed light on the stances of fwank and Gallagher.
Signed a new contract December 2013, possibly got 6 or 18 months left.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 11:32
by jameswilson
expe wrote:
JimJim2009 wrote:I'd like to know when the promotional/management deal expires, it may shed light on the stances of fwank and Gallagher.
Signed a new contract December 2013, possibly got 6 or 18 months left.
Well you were present at negotiations why the f uck don't you know?

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 11:33
by expe
jameswilson wrote:
expe wrote:
JimJim2009 wrote:I'd like to know when the promotional/management deal expires, it may shed light on the stances of fwank and Gallagher.
Signed a new contract December 2013, possibly got 6 or 18 months left.
Well you were present at negotiations why the f uck don't you know?
:zzz:

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 11:40
by chiggsy
Warren normally does this just as a fighter is about smig him off and join matchroom.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 11:42
by samwbr
Andrade would stop Smith inside 8 rounds.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 12:40
by rio
Just don't want to hear him moan about getting a title shot now. He got one and bottled it. Enough said.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 14:07
by palooka
I'd like to see Smith v Liam Williams - that would be some scrap.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 14:23
by Boxing Prospect
Sirimongkol Singwancha told the Thai press he has the fight with Andrade at Foxwoods on August...15th

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 15:36
by magnus
rio wrote:Just don't want to hear him moan about getting a title shot now. He got one and bottled it. Enough said.
I'm all for fighters taking opportunities when (and if) offered, but look who Smith has fought in the last 2 years. Makes Rose's pre-Andrade opponents look like a list of killers.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 15:42
by Teddy's Toupee
palooka wrote:I'd like to see Smith v Liam Williams - that would be some scrap.
I'd like to see Smigga v Bellew - that would be some crap.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 16:15
by Stuarty
The word over here is Smith is defending British title against Kris Carslaw. Can't mind the date but I heard London as venue (not sure where).

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 24 Jun 2015, 16:19
by JimJim2009
magnus wrote:
rio wrote:Just don't want to hear him moan about getting a title shot now. He got one and bottled it. Enough said.
I'm all for fighters taking opportunities when (and if) offered, but look who Smith has fought in the last 2 years. Makes Rose's pre-Andrade opponents look like a list of killers.
If he's 6 or 18 months left on his contract then that's not a lot really. If any of us were managing a fighter with only 18 months to go on his contract would we move him into a world title fight now ? we all know from the stories of previous fighters how it goes - you have to sign a contract extension to get the meaningful big fights. Smith's been fighting rubbish for ages and presumably he and his manager know where he's heading in due course. liam is young enough and there's plenty of years left. you can't tell me he looks at the shows (and tv station) callum, paul and stephen are on, and says "i'm happy fighting bums on an obscure channel, in half empty arenas".

it makes rock all sense for him to fight andrade now and if fwank has come out with this publicly i wonder if its the fight outward sign of discord. its one extreme to the other, bum after bum after bum and then thrown in somebody lethal like andrade ? smith isn't the mandatory, so as a voluntary challenger he wouldn't be making that much from it, and as a voluntary he'd be giving away options to the champion.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 03:16
by ste1983
Where has Warren said this?

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 05:25
by Pugilist-specialist
ste1983 wrote:Where has Warren said this?
Interview on IFL.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 05:45
by ste1983
Pugilist-specialist wrote:
ste1983 wrote:Where has Warren said this?
Interview on IFL.
Ah cheers I don't watch them, don't get me wrong despite being quite sceptical about IFL at first I quite like they're show on B-O-X-N-A-T-I-O-N just not too bothered about youtube videos.

Definitely sounds like Liam's heading to join the rest of the Smith's. Just hope when he joins Matchroom he doesn't come out with the usual 'can't wait for the big opportunities that Eddie will get for me'

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 05:57
by ste1983
JimJim2009 wrote:
magnus wrote:
rio wrote:Just don't want to hear him moan about getting a title shot now. He got one and bottled it. Enough said.
I'm all for fighters taking opportunities when (and if) offered, but look who Smith has fought in the last 2 years. Makes Rose's pre-Andrade opponents look like a list of killers.
If he's 6 or 18 months left on his contract then that's not a lot really. If any of us were managing a fighter with only 18 months to go on his contract would we move him into a world title fight now ? we all know from the stories of previous fighters how it goes - you have to sign a contract extension to get the meaningful big fights. Smith's been fighting rubbish for ages and presumably he and his manager know where he's heading in due course. liam is young enough and there's plenty of years left. you can't tell me he looks at the shows (and tv station) callum, paul and stephen are on, and says "i'm happy fighting bums on an obscure channel, in half empty arenas".

it makes rock all sense for him to fight andrade now and if fwank has come out with this publicly i wonder if its the fight outward sign of discord. its one extreme to the other, bum after bum after bum and then thrown in somebody lethal like andrade ? smith isn't the mandatory, so as a voluntary challenger he wouldn't be making that much from it, and as a voluntary he'd be giving away options to the champion.
No sense for him to fight Andrade but he can't be happy fighting bums???

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 06:04
by Boxerbeetle
I'd be very surprised if the match was actually made - I don't see what Andrade would have gained from fighting Smith, and it's not like Frank would pay him megabucks.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 06:33
by Pugilist-specialist
Boxerbeetle wrote:I'd be very surprised if the match was actually made - I don't see what Andrade would have gained from fighting Smith, and it's not like Frank would pay him megabucks.
The money fight at l/mid is Alvarez which is unlikely. If Andrade wants a defence, Smith is no.5.
Wazza seemed quite scathing about Gallagher in interview.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 09:13
by palooka
Teddy's Toupee wrote:
palooka wrote:I'd like to see Smith v Liam Williams - that would be some scrap.
I'd like to see Smigga v Bellew - that would be some crap.
They'd certainly talk a good crap.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 10:06
by chiggsy
Anyone got link to the interview please?

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 10:16
by Asian Boxing
As previously mentioned Sirimongkol apparently has the Andrade fight.

Use a translation program-
http://m.siamsport.co.th/news/detail/281739

I assume Andrade's team offered everyone in the rankings a low ball offer and the Thai accepted it.

Re: Liam Smith v Andrade

Posted: 25 Jun 2015, 10:43
by thatllbeme
the grass is not always greener! look at Stephen who left W@rren 2 years ago and is no further forward in his career and fighting bums still!