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Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 13:28
by keithmoonhangover
Great fighters who would always had problems with opponents they were favourites to beat.
Iran Barkley for Tommy Hearns.
Sandy Sadler for Willie Pep.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 13:33
by Counter-puncher
Those are examples of fighters who had a nemesis, rather than fighters who had Achilles heels.
EG: FIGHTER: Tommy Hearns
ACHILLES HEEL: Chin
Etc
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 13:36
by keithmoonhangover
Counter-puncher wrote:Those are examples of fighters who had a nemesis, rather than fighters who had Achilles heels.
EG: FIGHTER: Tommy Hearns
ACHILLES HEEL: Chin
Etc
Stop nitpicking. A person can also be referred to as someone's Achilles heel.

Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 13:42
by Datsue
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Stop nitpicking. A person can also be referred to as someone's Achilles heel.

A nemesis
isn't an Achilles Heel. An Achilles Heel is a fatal flaw; nemesis is the personification of divine retribution for those who show hubris against the gods.
Or, possibly, against those who conflate the names of two different mythological concepts & then get in a flounce 'cos they insist that they are actually the same thing.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 13:50
by Counter-puncher
God, I feel like goodnight fvcking Irene for the second time in a day
A person is not someones Achilles heel. An Achilles heel is an intrinsic part of someone's makeup- literally a body part or physical element- that is weak or defective, though metaphorically it would also describe weaknesses in, say, confidence or concentration or other intangibles.
Put it this way, if a person was someone's Achilles heel, then Achilles' 'achilles heel' would have been whichever fvcker killed Achilles cant remember his name, or Achilles himself would have been hectors Achilles heel. Which they weren't
My Achilles heel is PART OF ME. The dude who fvcks me over is my nemesis.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 13:51
by Boxerbeetle
I prefer the technical term 'potential banana skin' myself.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 13:52
by Counter-puncher
Who was it anyway? Hmmm.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 13:53
by Datsue
Counter-puncher wrote:Who was it anyway? Hmmm.
Paris.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 13:57
by Counter-puncher
Datsue wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:Who was it anyway? Hmmm.
Paris.
Ah yes, sneaky pudendum, showpony, nice line in phrasemaking and.lady-wooing sh1t, Trojan equivalent to achilles' bumboy patroclus, kinda lancelot-esque dude you wouldn't want to leave your helen/guinever around, not unless you wanted her to find something else to hang her towels on anyway.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 13:59
by Counter-puncher
Boxerbeetle wrote:I prefer the technical term 'potential banana skin' myself.
Its one they use when the.dude isn't african so they can't call him teak-tough
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 14:08
by Datsue
Counter-puncher wrote:Datsue wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:Who was it anyway? Hmmm.
Paris.
Ah yes, sneaky pudendum, showpony, nice line in phrasemaking and.lady-wooing sh1t, Trojan equivalent to achilles' bumboy patroclus, kinda lancelot-esque dude you wouldn't want to leave your helen/guinever around, not unless you wanted her to find something else to hang her towels on anyway.
That is the best description of a mythological character I've ever read.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 14:12
by Counter-puncher
I'm here all week bruv, do remember to tip your server, try the veal, etc
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 14:15
by Boxerbeetle
Counter-puncher wrote:
Ah yes, sneaky pudendum, showpony, nice line in phrasemaking and.lady-wooing sh1t, Trojan equivalent to achilles' bumboy patroclus, kinda lancelot-esque dude you wouldn't want to leave your helen/guinever around, not unless you wanted her to find something else to hang her towels on anyway.
That's Zack Snyder's next Hollywood pitch sorted then.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 14:24
by Counter-puncher
Thinking about it I may have conflated the Shakespearean and Homeric renderings of Paris, but still, I'm categorically sure the guy was a bit of a pudendum.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 16:32
by Rexob
Holyfield was Tyson's.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 16:46
by handsofstone
Marquez for Pacquiao is the obvious one these days
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 17:15
by Counter-puncher
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handsofstone wrote:Marquez for Pacquiao is the obvious one these days
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Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 17:20
by misterpunch
Counter-puncher wrote:Those are examples of fighters who had a nemesis, rather than fighters who had Achilles heels.
EG: FIGHTER: Tommy Hearns
ACHILLES HEEL: Chin
Etc
you got it wrong - another fighter can be an Achilles heel - think about it
your definition might be literally accurate but we do not live in a literally accurate world and we certainly do not communicate in literally accurate modes of speech. so if you don't want to acknowledge the title of the thread don't F....ing post a reply
shane mosley - Vernon forrest see, it's easy

Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 17:29
by stevedoc
Ken Norton for Ali he just struggled badly against him
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 17:37
by Counter-puncher
The other fighter is the guy who fires the arrow into your Achilles heel.
Paris, in the original.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 17:40
by Counter-puncher
misterpunch wrote:
shane mosley - Vernon forrest see, it's easy

Shane Mosley, being unable to slip the jab from taller fighters
Vernon Forrest, taller fighter who took advantage of mosleys Achilles heel
See, its easy.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 18:30
by tommo100
audley Harrison,a ring and anyone with a pair of gloves
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 30 Jun 2015, 06:04
by Ketchel
Oscar Dela Hoya - Shane Mosley.
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 30 Jun 2015, 06:10
by stevedoc
Counter-puncher wrote:The other fighter is the guy who fires the arrow into your Achilles heel.
Paris, in the original.
David and golieth if we're going old school
Re: Great Fighter's Achilles Heel
Posted: 30 Jun 2015, 07:51
by orbtastic
Was it Jason who unscrewed the plug on Talos' ankle?