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British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 30 Jun 2015, 20:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Kell Brook
3. (3.) Carl Frampton
4. (4.) Amir Khan
5. (5.) James DeGale
6. (6.) Jamie McDonnell
7. (7.) Tyson Fury
8. (8.) George Groves
9. (9.) Lee Selby
10. (10.) Andy Lee (Irish)

11. (11.) Martin Murray
12. (17.) Lee Haskins
13. (12.) Scott Quigg
14. (13.) Ola Afolabi
15. (14.) Ricky Burns
16. (15.) Tony Bellew
17. (16.) Billy Joe Saunders
18. (19.) Liam Walsh
19. (20.) Dereck Chisora
20. (21.) Stuart Hall

21. (22.) Paul Butler
22. (23.) Chris Eubank Jr
23. (18.) Paul Smith
24. (24.) Kevin Mitchell
25. (RE.) Callum Smith
26. (25.) Frankie Gavin
27. (26.) Derry Mathews
28. (27.) Anthony Crolla
29. (28.) Anthony Joshua
30. (29.) Ovill McKenzie

Out - (30.) Josh Warrington

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 30 Jun 2015, 20:00
by Horse
Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 30 Jun 2015, 21:32
by digzee
Think you should swap Burns with BJS, Ricky has achieved a lot in his career but look at the last 18 months BJS has had some great results whereas Ricky has fallen away, Surely the list is about who is the best now.

Also would definitely have Mitchell ahead of P. Smith, but really i'm nit picking, its a good list :TU:

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 00:25
by leftrightleft
Good list although id probably put Andy Lee higher as hes world champion. So probably groves 10 lee 9 and selby 8.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 02:57
by los2
froch dont box anymore.........u cant stand kell being no1..........

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 07:08
by milpool
Chisora goes up a spot?

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 07:32
by Tangerine
To be fair I'm starting to think it's time to remove Froch too.The guy has been out for so long it's hard to justify his inclusion.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 08:38
by Horse
digzee wrote:Think you should swap Burns with BJS, Ricky has achieved a lot in his career but look at the last 18 months BJS has had some great results whereas Ricky has fallen away, Surely the list is about who is the best now.
Saunders has struggled with Eubank Jr and Ryder in recent fights. Saunders has also only had two fights in the last 18 months.

Burns has looked awful in a few of his recent fights, but I scored the Figueroa fight in his favour and that would be a bigger win than Saunders has had so far. Add that to the rest of Burns' record (2 weight WBO champion etc) and he deserves to be a bit higher at the moment.
digzee wrote:Also would definitely have Mitchell ahead of P. Smith, but really i'm nit picking, its a good list :TU:
:TU:

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 08:42
by Horse
leftrightleft wrote:Good list although id probably put Andy Lee higher as hes world champion. So probably groves 10 lee 9 and selby 8.
Lee struggled to beat Horta by split decision 15 months ago and he's been behind in every fight since.

If he beats Saunders in September then I'll raise him up a few places.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 08:43
by Horse
los2 wrote:froch dont box anymore.........u cant stand kell being no1..........
So you want Brook to be No. 1 by default?

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 09:15
by freddydoesdallas
Horse wrote:
leftrightleft wrote:Good list although id probably put Andy Lee higher as hes world champion. So probably groves 10 lee 9 and selby 8.
Lee struggled to beat Horta by split decision 15 months ago and he's been behind in every fight since.

If he beats Saunders in September then I'll raise him up a few places.
Why would a win over saunders move lee up a few places when you have said that saunders has struggled with eubank jnr & ryder?

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 09:17
by Horse
milpool wrote:Chisora goes up a spot?
Yes.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 09:20
by Horse
LancashireLoyal wrote:To be fair I'm starting to think it's time to remove Froch too.The guy has been out for so long it's hard to justify his inclusion.
He's still clearly the best.

12 months out is not really that long for a boxer, it happens all of the time. I don't know why so many people make such a fuss about it.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 09:26
by ajwesty13
id move selby and lee above GG

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 09:31
by Horse
freddydoesdallas wrote:Why would a win over saunders move lee up a few places when you have said that saunders has struggled with eubank jnr & ryder?
He still won those fights.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 14:03
by freddydoesdallas
Horse wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:Why would a win over saunders move lee up a few places when you have said that saunders has struggled with eubank jnr & ryder?
He still won those fights.
Inconsistency in your views coming through.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 14:42
by Horse
ajwesty13 wrote:id move selby and lee above GG
I've not been as impressed with either of them in recent fights as most people seem to have been.

Groves is fighting Jack next month. If he wins that then hopefully people will be happier with him being above Lee and Selby.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 14:42
by Horse
freddydoesdallas wrote:Inconsistency in your views coming through.
No.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 14:46
by keithmoonhangover
Why is Andy Lee on the list? Is Ireland in Britain?

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 14:52
by Horse
keithmoonhangover wrote:Why is Andy Lee on the list? Is Ireland in Britain?
That's been done to death.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 15:34
by mullenman
Froch out - he is retired. .

I know people will disagree but I think degale is the best boxer in the uk

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 15:37
by keithmoonhangover
Horse wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Why is Andy Lee on the list? Is Ireland in Britain?
That's been done to death.
I honestly don't know why he's on the list. Why is he?

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 15:41
by freddydoesdallas
Horse wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:Inconsistency in your views coming through.
No.
You don't move andy lee up for beating better fighters than bjs because he's been behind in fights.

You don't move bjs up because he struggled with eubank jnr and ryder.

You say that Lee will move up 'a few places' if he beats bjs.

You do not make sense

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 15:44
by Horse
mullenman wrote:Froch out - he is retired. .
Froch hasn't retired.
mullenman wrote:I know people will disagree but I think degale is the best boxer in the uk
I disagree.

Re: British Top 30 P4P July 2015

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 15:45
by Horse
keithmoonhangover wrote:I honestly don't know why he's on the list. Why is he?
It's been done to death.