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Hello, please discuss about advantages and disadvantages of these 2 boxers before they fight 8)

Cotto's advantages are greater experience and Roach.

GingerHead's advantage is youth and size.

Besides that I think it is pretty close to a toss up unless a ridiculous catchweight is involved.

Tanzio wrote:Cotto's advantages are greater experience and Roach.

GingerHead's advantage is youth and size.

Besides that I think it is pretty close to a toss up unless a ridiculous catchweight is involved.

Sorry but a catchweight is indeed involved.

It's up to you to decide if it's ridiculous or not.

Contract for the November bout calls for a 155 maximum, which is the weight Canelo has been coming in at since the Mayweather defeat.

"Middleweight king" Cotto hasn't come in anywhere close to 160 in his previous 2 middleweight bouts---scaling 155 for the Martinez fight and just 153 3/4 for Geale.

For 2 guys that want to be middleweights, it appears that both Cotto and Canelo are reluctant to go anywhere near the 160 lb. limit. Just a couple of overweight super welters.

Pretty even fight. If the fight is close Canelo will get the decision, like he has in the past in close fights.

Cotto understands his mobility reaches and is having a repeat success with the body shots he threw as a younger pro.
Canelo is strong and can hit, at some point he will pin Cotto unless something crazy happens.
Saul has enough juice on his punches that could KO Cotto, depends on holding, refs the usual.

SenorPipino wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Cotto's advantages are greater experience and Roach.

GingerHead's advantage is youth and size.

Besides that I think it is pretty close to a toss up unless a ridiculous catchweight is involved.

Sorry but a catchweight is indeed involved.

It's up to you to decide if it's ridiculous or not.

Contract for the November bout calls for a 155 maximum, which is the weight Canelo has been coming in at since the Mayweather defeat.

"Middleweight king" Cotto hasn't come in anywhere close to 160 in his previous 2 middleweight bouts---scaling 155 for the Martinez fight and just 153 3/4 for Geale.

For 2 guys that want to be middleweights, it appears that both Cotto and Canelo are reluctant to go anywhere near the 160 lb. limit. Just a couple of overweight super welters.

Why should they? If they are comfortable at that weight, no need to add extra weight.

SRR regularly weighed under the 160 middleweight limit whilst champion, Henry Armstrong - also a champion at 147, fought whilst within the 135 lightweight limit many times.

If both men are comfortable below 155, then really, there's nothing wrong with this - as you say Canelo has been coming in at 155 in previous bout - so what's the problem?.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

SenorPipino wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Cotto's advantages are greater experience and Roach.

GingerHead's advantage is youth and size.

Besides that I think it is pretty close to a toss up unless a ridiculous catchweight is involved.

Sorry but a catchweight is indeed involved.

It's up to you to decide if it's ridiculous or not.

Contract for the November bout calls for a 155 maximum, which is the weight Canelo has been coming in at since the Mayweather defeat.

"Middleweight king" Cotto hasn't come in anywhere close to 160 in his previous 2 middleweight bouts---scaling 155 for the Martinez fight and just 153 3/4 for Geale.

For 2 guys that want to be middleweights, it appears that both Cotto and Canelo are reluctant to go anywhere near the 160 lb. limit. Just a couple of overweight super welters.

Why should they? If they are comfortable at that weight, no need to add extra weight.

SRR regularly weighed under the 160 middleweight limit whilst champion, Henry Armstrong - also a champion at 147, fought whilst within the 135 lightweight limit many times.

If both men are comfortable below 155, then really, there's nothing wrong with this - as you say Canelo has been coming in at 155 in previous bout - so what's the problem?.

What's the problem??? We are not in the era of 8 weights like in the days of Armstrong and SRR. We have added weight classes, now up to 17 instead of 8 for the guys to settle into, so they don't have to fight down or up like they used to. The biggest difference now is we have big money divas that seem to think that they can create their own weight class. We have Cotto holding the Middleweight belt (one of them) hostage and refusing to fight anyone at the weight! (160) He has been very carefully matched so some think Roach has turned his career around.

I am fine with guys just doing fights in-between, but when a world title is on the line, there should be no catch weights!!!

If you support fights as bogus as this, and others, it will continue to erode the integrity of the sport. I totally get the fact that its good that they are at least fighting too, regardless of weight.

Let them fight at 155, but neither is a champion. I don't care who wins, but whoever does won't be Middleweight champion in my eyes at least.

Cotto is the most overrated fighter in my generation so I expect this will be yet another mega fight that Cotto loses making him 0-3 in big fights. Somehow the idiots will still call his career a HOF career though.

Cotto has a problem with a boxer that keeps coming forward and usually fades badly in those fights. I see this fight resembling the two fights against Margarito but Canelo will do more damage early than Margarito did. Canelo should win this one by a late stoppage.

I don't care about a catchweight in this fight because it's going to be a great fight at any weight they choose. I will be very excited to see GGG vs Canelo. How great would that fight be and at 160 with both guys healthy and happy? Cotto's free ride is done.

Canelo was badly hurt fighting Cottos brother.

The best punch in the sport is the left hook & Cotto's left hook is about as good as anyone in the sport right now, so sharp.

I like Cotto for this, he'll have too much class for Canelo. If it starts to heat up though Cotto can be worn down. Going to be an unmissable matchup.

Ricky_ wrote:Canelo was badly hurt fighting Cottos brother.

The best punch in the sport is the left hook & Cotto's left hook is about as good as anyone in the sport right now, so sharp.

I like Cotto for this, he'll have too much class for Canelo. If it starts to heat up though Cotto can be worn down. Going to be an unmissable matchup.

Yes, 5 years ago when Canelo was 19. I would like to think he has improved his game a little since then. :idea: He has been in with much bigger punchers and boxers since, and has not been badly hurt.

I think Cotto can make it .. If he will not stop to be agressive from 1 till the end The only thing that he need to carry in the ring "heart" to prove himself that He is HOF ;;-)

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

SenorPipino wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Cotto's advantages are greater experience and Roach.

GingerHead's advantage is youth and size.

Besides that I think it is pretty close to a toss up unless a ridiculous catchweight is involved.

Sorry but a catchweight is indeed involved.

It's up to you to decide if it's ridiculous or not.

Contract for the November bout calls for a 155 maximum, which is the weight Canelo has been coming in at since the Mayweather defeat.

"Middleweight king" Cotto hasn't come in anywhere close to 160 in his previous 2 middleweight bouts---scaling 155 for the Martinez fight and just 153 3/4 for Geale.

For 2 guys that want to be middleweights, it appears that both Cotto and Canelo are reluctant to go anywhere near the 160 lb. limit. Just a couple of overweight super welters.

Why should they? If they are comfortable at that weight, no need to add extra weight.

SRR regularly weighed under the 160 middleweight limit whilst champion, Henry Armstrong - also a champion at 147, fought whilst within the 135 lightweight limit many times.

If both men are comfortable below 155, then really, there's nothing wrong with this - as you say Canelo has been coming in at 155 in previous bout - so what's the problem?.

The problem is that a champion shouldn't call himself "champion" if he's unwilling to risk his belt at the historic weight limit.

Cotto can come in at 128 for all I care, but he shouldn't restrict his challengers from weighing 160. Allow his opponents to fight at that weight or give up the title.

Cotto is a fraud to call himself the Middleweight Champion of the World.
At best he's the "Bloated Super Welterweight Champion."

caldo2025 wrote:Cotto is the most overrated fighter in my generation

The catchweight won't make a difference here. Both will be comfortable at the 155.
Cotto brings to the table experience and great left hook.
Canelo is very well rounded.

A great fight personally I favour the fresher younger Canelo. All Cottos wars will catch up to him soon.

Cent0089 wrote:Hello, please discuss about advantages and disadvantages of these 2 boxers before they fight 8)

Cotto has the speed and experience edge, and looks to on top of his game. He can box beautifully.

Canelo is much younger, bigger, and stronger. Also more durable.

It could go either way. I think Cotto's defense is the key for him. If its even exchanges, Canelo is going to win.

A close match up. The true winner will be Floyd Mayweather as he has already beaten both men.

I will be curious if Canelo wins, will he fight GGG at 160 or keep holding the belt hostage like Cotto has been doing?

Maybe he will just vacate, since he claims there is no competition at 160.

Badhusker wrote:I will be curious if Canelo wins, will he fight GGG at 160 or keep holding the belt hostage like Cotto has been doing?

Maybe he will just vacate, since he claims there is no competition at 160.

For me theres a bigger chance that cotto will fight GGG even he will win or lose to canelo