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Not sure how accurate that is but it is worth discussing:

http://ringsidereport.com/?p=54040&utm_ ... +%28RSR%29

If it happens, GBP fighters Canelo and Lemieux should be ashamed for the 50-year old co-owner taking a hit for them.

I would say that Gennady shouldn't be gaining muscle for this one. As usual, weigh in at about 160 a day before and about 170 in the ring.

If GGG accepts this fight he is a joke.
If he were cherry picking a clearly fading/faded title holder or even a fading/faded linear champion that would be fine, situations like that happen in boxing.
Moving up in weight to fight a 50-year-old coming off a lop-sided loss is pathetic.

verballistic wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Not sure how accurate that is but it is worth discussing:

http://ringsidereport.com/?p=54040&utm_ ... +%28RSR%29

If it happens, GBP fighters Canelo and Lemieux should be ashamed for the 50-year old co-owner taking a hit for them.

Ridiculous fight. Golovkin gets little respect if he faces a 50-year-old Hopkins, even if he goes up to 175 to do it. I agree that GGG needs to move up in weight, but not for 50-year-old shell of B-Hop!!

I disagree that GGG gets little respect for beating a 50 year old Hopkins, people already give GGG tons of respect for beating B and C level fighters so while Bhop isn't what he used to be, he proved that he is still durable and competitive despite how Kovalev beat him and no one cannot complain that BHop isn't an elite fighter.

It would be the best name on Triple G's ledger if he can pull it off, one thing he cannot allow itself to happen is that he cannot let Hopkins think that he is not able to hurt him, we saw Hopkins take Kovalev's best shots and stick his tongue out at him. Bhop still has a high boxing IQ and will give any boxer fits.

If it happens and unless GGG proves he can hurt him then I'm going with Hopkins by decision.

Perseus wrote:If GGG accepts this fight he is a joke.
If he were cherry picking a clearly fading/faded title holder or even a fading/faded linear champion that would be fine, situations like that happen in boxing.
Moving up in weight to fight a 50-year-old coming off a lop-sided loss is pathetic.

It's all about money. Even though I don't agree with the fight. Hopkins will get beat down.

Perseus wrote:If GGG accepts this fight he is a joke.
If he were cherry picking a clearly fading/faded title holder or even a fading/faded linear champion that would be fine, situations like that happen in boxing.
Moving up in weight to fight a 50-year-old coming off a lop-sided loss is pathetic.

Hopkins lost to the best fighter in the division in which he is small compared to others, and he didn't get stopped like others. Before that fight, many were predicting that he would school Kovalev.

Bernard would likely still beat Geale, Murray and Rubio, so I don't see how facing a bigger skilled fighter who is still better than most if not all past opponents of GGG is pathetic.

This is another reason why Bhop is awesome. Fighting GGG and Kovalev back to back? The guy has no fear and i hope that this match moves forward. GGG finally gets a good payday and we get to see Bhop one last time in there as a huge underdog. Per usual. Good for you Bhop.

If this is at 175 - then surely you'd have to give Hopkins a fair chance of winning.

At 168, can Hopkins cut weight at his age without losing a tonne of muscle mass?

At first I didn't like the idea of seeing a 50 year old Hopkins in with a puncher like GGG.

But thinking about it. Hopkins has always been able to avoid punishment, so he deserves the benefit of the doubt.

He also would be the biggest name on the GGG record.

Like someone said before I'd pick Hopkins to beat Monroe jr, Geale and Rubio.

I still think Murray would beat Hopkins and remains GGG best win.

Perseus wrote:If GGG accepts this fight he is a joke.
If he were cherry picking a clearly fading/faded title holder or even a fading/faded linear champion that would be fine, situations like that happen in boxing.
Moving up in weight to fight a 50-year-old coming off a lop-sided loss is pathetic.

Hopkins went the distance with a guy who boils down to make 175 - and who is the clearly dominant guy in the division.

If you ignore Bernard's age (he clearly isn't 50 years old biologically) and look at his achievements, then at 175, this is a great fight.

I'm actually starting to make Bernard a slight favourite here - because Golovkin is not even a huge middleweight, let alone a proper light heavyweight. Bernard has taken hits from Kovolev, it's hard to believe GGG hits anywhere near as hard. The problem for Bernard is likely to be his own declining workrate.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Perseus wrote:If GGG accepts this fight he is a joke.
If he were cherry picking a clearly fading/faded title holder or even a fading/faded linear champion that would be fine, situations like that happen in boxing.
Moving up in weight to fight a 50-year-old coming off a lop-sided loss is pathetic.

Hopkins went the distance with a guy who boils down to make 175 - and who is the clearly dominant guy in the division.

If you ignore Bernard's age (he clearly isn't 50 years old biologically) and look at his achievements, then at 175, this is a great fight.

I'm actually starting to make Bernard a slight favourite here - because Golovkin is not even a huge middleweight, let alone a proper light heavyweight. Bernard has taken hits from Kovolev, it's hard to believe GGG hits anywhere near as hard. The problem for Bernard is likely to be his own declining workrate.

Triple G won't be as hesitant as Kovalev was at times, he will attack Hopkins relentlessly. This is not a good fight for Hopkins at his age. Kovalev really put it on Hopkins at the end of their fight and I would expect Triple G to finish Hopkins within the distance. If Hopkins wants to enjoy his health and money he better not take this fight.

Baby Face Finster wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Perseus wrote:If GGG accepts this fight he is a joke.
If he were cherry picking a clearly fading/faded title holder or even a fading/faded linear champion that would be fine, situations like that happen in boxing.
Moving up in weight to fight a 50-year-old coming off a lop-sided loss is pathetic.

Hopkins went the distance with a guy who boils down to make 175 - and who is the clearly dominant guy in the division.

If you ignore Bernard's age (he clearly isn't 50 years old biologically) and look at his achievements, then at 175, this is a great fight.

I'm actually starting to make Bernard a slight favourite here - because Golovkin is not even a huge middleweight, let alone a proper light heavyweight. Bernard has taken hits from Kovolev, it's hard to believe GGG hits anywhere near as hard. The problem for Bernard is likely to be his own declining workrate.

Triple G won't be as hesitant as Kovalev was at times, he will attack Hopkins relentlessly. This is not a good fight for Hopkins at his age. Kovalev really put it on Hopkins at the end of their fight and I would expect Triple G to finish Hopkins within the distance. If Hopkins wants to enjoy his health and money he better not take this fight.

You're assuming there, that GGG's shots are going to have the same authority at 175 - which is quite an assumption. Hopkins has a style which makes his opponents' hesitate - and he might also be able to hurt GGG as he's much the bigger man.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:You're assuming there, that GGG's shots are going to have the same authority at 175 - which is quite an assumption. Hopkins has a style which makes his opponents' hesitate - and he might also be able to hurt GGG as he's much the bigger man.

Of course I am assuming, just like you are assuming that a 50 year old can hurt Triple G. I just think that Triple G is much faster and throws punches from such awkward angles that Hopkins will simply go into a shell and I doubt Hopkins will be able to hurt him.

Baby Face Finster wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:You're assuming there, that GGG's shots are going to have the same authority at 175 - which is quite an assumption. Hopkins has a style which makes his opponents' hesitate - and he might also be able to hurt GGG as he's much the bigger man.

Of course I am assuming, just like you are assuming that a 50 year old can hurt Triple G. I just think that Triple G is much faster and throws punches from such awkward angles that Hopkins will simply go into a shell and I doubt Hopkins will be able to hurt him.

I said 'he might also be able to hurt GGG'

I am not assuming anything.

I think it is foolish to assume anything when a fighter is moving up 15 lbs in weight to face a fighter far more experienced at fighting at that weight.

Bear in Mind also GGG has NEVER faced anyone as tactically adept at 175.

Do you think GGG would go the distance with Kovolev? It's an interesting question.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:You're assuming there, that GGG's shots are going to have the same authority at 175 - which is quite an assumption. Hopkins has a style which makes his opponents' hesitate - and he might also be able to hurt GGG as he's much the bigger man.

Of course I am assuming, just like you are assuming that a 50 year old can hurt Triple G. I just think that Triple G is much faster and throws punches from such awkward angles that Hopkins will simply go into a shell and I doubt Hopkins will be able to hurt him.

I said 'he might also be able to hurt GGG'

I am not assuming anything.

I think it is foolish to assume anything when a fighter is moving up 15 lbs in weight to face a fighter far more experienced at fighting at that weight.

Bear in Mind also GGG has NEVER faced anyone as tactically adept at 175.

Do you think GGG would go the distance with Kovolev? It's an interesting question.

Yes I am 100% positive that Triple G could go the distance with Kovalev.

You can't be 100% sure that's just silly.

GGG has never faced a light heavyweight in a competitive bout - forget sparring, that doesn't mean jack, as neither man is trying to rip the other's head off.

Given what Kovalev has done to the other 175 lbers he faced before Hopkins - who is one of the cagiest and most durable fighters campaigning today, I think that's a very bold statement.

It seems that GGG is being attributed with almost superhuman power and durability, despite him not having even taken on a single elite level middleweight.

Personally, I will wait until after I see him take on someone like Cotto - who is shopworn, but will certainly provide some sort of test.

I guess we shall see in due course just how good GGG really is.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:You can't be 100% sure that's just silly.

GGG has never faced a light heavyweight in a competitive bout - forget sparring, that doesn't mean jack, as neither man is trying to rip the other's head off.

Given what Kovalev has done to the other 175 lbers he faced before Hopkins - who is one of the cagiest and most durable fighters campaigning today, I think that's a very bold statement.

It seems that GGG is being attributed with almost superhuman power and durability, despite him not having even taken on a single elite level middleweight.

Personally, I will wait until after I see him take on someone like Cotto - who is shopworn, but will certainly provide some sort of test.

I guess we shall see in due course just how good GGG really is.

Id of put Murray in the elite category. I thought he was top drawer at middleweight. I had him ranked 4 when the fight took place.
In my eyes GGG was the first to beat him.
He beat Martinez easily IMO.

Fook me you got to love Hopkins He don't give a shite who he fights fair play Hopkins by KO just because he probably will

I'd give Hopkins a decent chance at 175, I would love to see it. Could be a monumental mistake by Golovkin's team, no idea why Golovkin fans would be so confident.

I just want Hopkins to retire.I hate seeing a legend taking fights like this.
He has accomplished all there is to accomplish go enjoy the rest of your life