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So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 17 Jul 2015, 13:02
by diddy
I'm guessing that will be the recipe for the next couple years. Make middleweights come up to fight him at super middleweight so he can bully his opponents like Fonfara bulled him. Sounds about right. Julio probably didnt like getting a taste of his own medicine.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 17 Jul 2015, 15:41
by ikorolev
Is anybody surprised ? Fighting smaller guys and having a good chin was the reason of Junior's success at lower weights.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 17 Jul 2015, 18:20
by crusader
And he was overweight again, so they had to cut a deal with Reyes.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 17 Jul 2015, 18:38
by ikorolev
What a miserable failure.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 17 Jul 2015, 19:10
by diddy
So a cruiser vs a middle. Cool.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 17 Jul 2015, 20:15
by Evander
Chavez didn't make weight, why am I not surprised.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 18 Jul 2015, 15:13
by Badhusker
Imo Chavez Jr. is lazy and undisciplined. Instead of shedding off the .8 of a pound, he prefers to settle financially. He should just fight at 175, but it is my guess he would be over-weight for a contest there too. Might as well just be a Cruiserweight.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 18 Jul 2015, 15:30
by ikorolev
He should name himself Julio Cesar Chavez Joke. Without beating
any SMW, he wants a shot at Jack vs Groves winner:
http://www.BS.com/julio-cesar- ... ner--93658?
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 18 Jul 2015, 23:50
by diddy
JCC wouldn't weigh in today. Tells me he is at least 190 in the ring.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 00:04
by diddy
Chavez is an absolutely abhorrent fighter. He sucks. No jab. No head movement. No defense. If his opponent isn't half his size and against the ropes he can't land a thing. He stinks.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 00:34
by diddy
Stoolio won 3 of 10 rds. Can't wait to see these heinous cards.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 00:37
by DieHard24
I feel bad fort Sr…he knows his son is shit. Much pain him to be around it.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 00:37
by diddy
BAHAHAHAHA.
Love this sport.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 00:43
by ikorolev
Junior is a spoiled brat. He was a LHW fighting a MW and he still needed judges do him favors.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 19 Jul 2015, 15:57
by koolkc107
ikorolev wrote:Junior is a spoiled brat. He was a LHW fighting a MW and he still needed judges do him favors.
Yep. Pretty much.
Dude is a waste of talent.
If he broke his butt in the gym and got back down to 160, maybe folks would stop laughing at him.
I can't forget that this guy, in half-way decent shape, stopped Andy Lee.
The potential is there, but the kid keeps pizzing his inheritance away...
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 06:04
by caldo2025
I loved how the Showtime Crew didn't buy into the hype. They scoffed at the claims that this camp was his best camp and how Garcia was the answer. The crew continuously referred to Jr quitting on the stool vs Fonfara and pretty much gave him an F for missing weight and his overall performance. Good for them.
The worst part was that this fight was negotiated at 168 but just a week ago, Chavez camp lobbied to move that limit up to 170. Chavez STILL misses weight. Something has to be done about buying pounds in this sport. Since Floyd did it vs JMM, it's a common scene now. It's ultimately going to end badly if someone gets severely injured in the ring by a much larger opponent.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 06:19
by Datsue
koolkc107 wrote:
I can't forget that this guy, in half-way decent shape, stopped Andy Lee.
I would like to add for the record that fight was in Texas, that he's been caught using diuretics (a racehorse diuretic, iirc) before & that in Texas they've more than once "lost" his drug test results.
IMO he simply can't kill the body to make 160 any more, it's such an unnatural drain/dehydrate for him, & the effort of losing so much weight & then piling 20+ pounds back on time after time after time has taken its toll on whatever reflexes & physical sharpness he once possessed.
This is exacerbated by his cheeseburger diet (please, no-one post that photo of him in Burger King with his trap hanging open & half a bacon double cheeseburger dripping out, that fornicating jacket he's wearing gives me hives) & inability to live the life, which I think if you're ah,
tampering with the weight shall we say you've gotta be extra careful about living like a monk, & the boy simply never has.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 08:50
by ikorolev
There is nothing wrong with an occasional cheeseburger. Phelps eats them and stays in great shape. Junior just doesn't work hard enough in the gym.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 09:45
by Datsue
ikorolev wrote:There is nothing wrong with an occasional cheeseburger. Phelps eats them and stays in great shape. Junior just doesn't work hard enough in the gym.
Nowhere did I say there was anything wrong with the "occasional cheeseburger." Of course there isn't.
However, Phelps' athletic success is not predicated on him killing his body to get down to an unnaturally small weight for him & then rehydrating so he has a size advantage over his competitors, JCCJr's is.
My problem specifically with JCC Jr's cheeseburger consumption is that A) it's stupid to expect someone who gorges himself between fights like he does to continue to play the massive drain/rehydrate game that was the major contributory factor in his success & B) he doesn't seem to close his mouth when he's eating.
I do concede that the second point, however, is mostly an aesthetic one.
PS: Why are you so defensive RE: cheeseburger consumption?
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 10:34
by Badhusker
WTF is up with Garcia saying their hotel scale was a pound off the official scale? That is just BS, or if true someone's head should roll on their team.
Digital scales that are calibrated regularly are not off like that. Probably had an old bathroom scale? Unprofessional all around.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 12:37
by Maxime
I see Chavez-Bute in the futur if Bute manages to win in August.
Some kind of title eliminator for a shot at the WBC title.

Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 15:05
by ikorolev
Badhusker wrote:WTF is up with Garcia saying their hotel scale was a pound off the official scale? That is just BS, or if true someone's head should roll on their team.
Digital scales that are calibrated regularly are not off like that. Probably had an old bathroom scale? Unprofessional all around.
They were hoping to use the same forged scale in the official weigh-in.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 15:30
by Badhusker
ikorolev wrote:Badhusker wrote:WTF is up with Garcia saying their hotel scale was a pound off the official scale? That is just BS, or if true someone's head should roll on their team.
Digital scales that are calibrated regularly are not off like that. Probably had an old bathroom scale? Unprofessional all around.
They were hoping to use the same forged scale in the official weigh-in.
Probably, lol. In the end, it makes the whole team look stupid.
Re: So JCCJr. Is Back To Fighting Little Guys Again?
Posted: 23 Jul 2015, 19:53
by Evander
Chavez Jr has generated some conversation because of his father, but also because he was at one point a somewhat entertaining boxer.
Ok well and good.
Then he was exposed as a lower level boxer, no problem he was still seen as being a fighter involved in somewhat exciting fights so he will buy some juice of that.
Then he became lazy overweight and couldn't make the scales, it's at that point where I lose interest in the guy.
I feel he's much like Broner and will fall away into obscurity due to his lack of dedication, he had his 15 minutes of fame and more but there's much harder worker boxers out there to pay some mind to rather than him.
He's done with me, the guy clearly needs to fight with an overwhelming weight advantage or he's unproductive.