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One thing would be for sure here....Teper COULD NEVER KNOCK WELLIVER DOWN.....nobody in this world can do that.

As for outscoring Teper, it would depend on Welliver's weight. At 260 or so Welliver has a good shot to outscore him. At 300 or so he gets outscored by Teper.

Welliver is scheduled to be facing Zoltan Petranyi next. Hot on the trail of Shannon Briggs. I eat what you eat champ. Zumbano Love after that. I eat what you eat champ. And then hopefully Briggs will man up and quit running from Welliver like he has for the last 5 years solid. That is the part they don't show in the Wladimir and Briggs videos. Welliver was right behind Briggs boat on a jet ski. He had to tow Wladimir into shore and Briggs escaped. But he will catch up to Briggs and knock the air right out of his asthma riddled arse!

Kronkpride wrote:One thing would be for sure here....Teper COULD NEVER KNOCK WELLIVER DOWN.....nobody in this world can do that.

As for outscoring Teper, it would depend on Welliver's weight. At 260 or so Welliver has a good shot to outscore him. At 300 or so he gets outscored by Teper.

Welliver is scheduled to be facing Zoltan Petranyi next. Hot on the trail of Shannon Briggs. I eat what you eat champ. Zumbano Love after that. I eat what you eat champ. And then hopefully Briggs will man up and quit running from Welliver like he has for the last 5 years solid. That is the part they don't show in the Wladimir and Briggs videos. Welliver was right behind Briggs boat on a jet ski. He had to tow Wladimir into shore and Briggs escaped. But he will catch up to Briggs and knock the air right out of his asthma riddled arse!

Oh he eats MUCH more than that.

Impractical Poster wrote:Who you got?

I got a flagrant mismatch.

punchoutsb wrote:

Kronkpride wrote:One thing would be for sure here....Teper COULD NEVER KNOCK WELLIVER DOWN.....nobody in this world can do that. :bow:

As for outscoring Teper, it would depend on Welliver's weight. At 260 or so Welliver has a good shot to outscore him. At 300 or so he gets outscored by Teper.

Welliver is scheduled to be facing Zoltan Petranyi next. Hot on the trail of Shannon Briggs. I eat what you eat champ. Zumbano Love after that. I eat what you eat champ. And then hopefully Briggs will man up and quit running from Welliver like he has for the last 5 years solid. That is the part they don't show in the Wladimir and Briggs videos. Welliver was right behind Briggs boat on a jet ski. He had to tow Wladimir into shore and Briggs escaped. But he will catch up to Briggs and knock the air right out of his asthma riddled arse! :box:

Oh he eats MUCH more than that.

If Briggs isn't at the Wlad/Fury press conference is it presumed Chauncy has in fact eaten him?

Kronkpride wrote:One thing would be for sure here....Teper COULD NEVER KNOCK WELLIVER DOWN.....nobody in this world can do that.

As for outscoring Teper, it would depend on Welliver's weight. At 260 or so Welliver has a good shot to outscore him. At 300 or so he gets outscored by Teper.

Welliver is scheduled to be facing Zoltan Petranyi next. Hot on the trail of Shannon Briggs. I eat what you eat champ. Zumbano Love after that. I eat what you eat champ. And then hopefully Briggs will man up and quit running from Welliver like he has for the last 5 years solid. That is the part they don't show in the Wladimir and Briggs videos. Welliver was right behind Briggs boat on a jet ski. He had to tow Wladimir into shore and Briggs escaped. But he will catch up to Briggs and knock the air right out of his asthma riddled arse!

Why do you want Welliver to get killed or badly injured? Taking repetitive punches is extremely dangerous. Welliver doesn't slip many punches.

Chauncy is a smart guy who is better served working with young people, training fighters, or working creatively perhaps as a wrestling booker. I've seen Chauncy's Interviews; he has a good mind.

You wanting Welliver to get beaten up is kind of sick.

I agree with the Welliver fanboy that Teper is unlikely to stop him, but do you really want him to soak up ten or twelve rounds of punishment and concede a wide UD loss? Welliver has always stopped most of his opponents' shots with his face and he has fought a lot of rounds...

I can't really see this version of Welliver besting Zoltan Petranyi, unfortunately. Chauncy seems like a nice chap but I'm not sure why he continues to turn up at 300lbs+ simply to take a beating, there must be something else he can turn his hand to...

Welliver is on a 4-fight losing streak that includes a stoppage against Billy Wright and a shutout decision loss to Sonny Bill Williams. I am pretty sure Teper would flatten him.

..I'm not sure why would anyone come up with an idea in the first place to compare those two...

Lackeos wrote:Welliver is on a 4-fight losing streak that includes a stoppage against Billy Wright and a shutout decision loss to Sonny Bill Williams. I am pretty sure Teper would flatten him.

I think the Wright stoppage was an arm injury, mainly due to the fact that Welliver was even more grotesquely out of shape than usual. That was possibly one of the worst examples of 'boxing' I have ever seen, the combined ring weight must have been close to 700lbs and they resembled a pair of lethargic, rutting walruses...

Not that Teper and Welliver are ever going to fight, but I don't think he would be able to knock him out...

I think it's kind of sick for some scumbag to say I want to see Welliver get hurt. And that it is a display of ignorance to say such things about Welliver anyways. When it comes to the category of boxers most likely to get hurt, Welliver is as far away from that as anybody can be. Severely mismatched guys are in danger and no man in this world severely makes Chauncy a mismatch. He can take the blows of the best men alive today and still stay standing. He's never been shown to be inept in the ring at all. All of his stoppage losses are due to other injuries and a blatant referee stoppage to make the Gold Medalist look like he did something he could not do. He's never been down and he's fought right to the top contender levels of the game. He is also very young for a HW boxer and the old as hell men campaigning are the ones likely to get hurt. Taking punches is not good for anybody but that is what boxing is about. If you're not willing to see guys get hit you are the fan of the wrong sport. And if you cannot admire guys who can take huge shots and stay standing then you have little respect for the only tool in boxing that is almost entirely god given. Chins are not built by men they are broken by men. Chauncy has a chin that no men can break.

As for him continuing to fight, I'll always support that as he will only be doing that if he has good reasons to do so. If he retired and only did training, managing and promoting I would support him in that too. He's a heck of a trainer and a heck of a manager. He doesn't have to fight so him doing so is not like these others who are stuck in ruts and need to fight to survive. Chauncy will survive with or without fighting and the only reason he will be fighting is to help his life thrive. For the money or the excitement and challenge..whatever it happens to me. He's not fighting to survive but fighting to thrive. And that is the best we can hope for any and every boxer. If you are actually worried about boxers being hurt there are thousands of better candidates than Welliver to focus your time on.

Welliver could see Teper someday. Weak chins will be leery of him now. Welliver will whip Zoltan Petranyi's arse and be back on a win streak. And we know that he will have no problem coming to Europe for a match if they call and pay him well. Solis was a short notice fight in Germany. Ustinov was a short notice fight in Russia. Welliver will always be one of those types of guys that top promoters can rely on to call as a replacement for a big fight with an assurance the fight will go rounds. For as long as he is fighting he is a type of gatekeeper and a potential jewel in the belt for any man who can actually knock him down. It may be optimistic sounding because the recent 4 fights have not been pretty in anything except establishing the quality of his chin to a more known quantity. But Welliver is only a few fights from again being a top 15 ranked guy and in title conversations. He'd need to 1, get some wins going again, 2, get in better shape again, and 3, take and win one of these fights like a Ustinov, Browne, and how Teper would be or some others. There are guys who he can beat on his best night who are currently top 15 and who he would win belts from to again crack the top 15. And he's plenty young enough to do it again if he tries to do it again. He almost had a title shot and he is not yet entirely out of the woods from the possibility to being able to get one. DeOntay Wilder is now WBC Champ....do you think he'd have been interested in Chauncy during the 2 years he was WBC top 15 rated? Damn right he would have been....and we could beat that chump. That is timing and boxing. Welliver had the talent to win the title, the timing was off. The timing could come on though at any time for him. A Teper victory now would put him back in line. Whipping Briggs arse would not be as big of a jump but it would put him closer. If he focuses on it he could again be in a top 15 and in line for the titles. If Wilder had been a couple years earlier there is little to no doubt Welliver would have been selected and then Welliver would have defeated him. He'd defeat him right now today...even at 300 pounds. He'd beat him down worse that Dustin Nichols who knocked Wilder down...400 pounder wearing sweat pants shorts knocks Wilder down. Chauncy's chin would take all he has and his chin could not stand up to Chauncy. Wilder is the most glass HW Champion to exist for the last 100 years. Unfortunately he won't survive long enough to get in line and catch him.

I watched Browne vs Welliver on TV and it is the worst fight I have ever witnessed.

You must not have seen very many fights in your day to say that.

Browne head butted Welliver in the 3rd round to cause the eye fracture. The corner of Browne is even caught on tape between rounds saying you head butted him. Before the 4th round even ends Welliver's eye is completely closed. Under normal situations without cheats it is a no contest every time. But Welliver returns to the ring and fights the 5th round without ever having ability to see anything coming at him. He takes some of the most vicious shots Browne has ever laid on anybody blinded and still never goes down. Then the ref stops the fight after that round for the eye fracture. In reality the same fracture should have stopped it a round earlier. He fought on blinded and still survived standing against a very big puncher. That fight sucked because of the corrupt calling of the action and enforcing of the rules. Everything Welliver did was what you want to see a fighter do. He won the first round and it was an even battle up until the head butt. After that he did not quit when offered by the ref and he kept fighting until the doctor stopped it however late the stoppage was.

I myself have seen several hundred shittier fights than Welliver vs Browne. If the head butt had not occurred he would have taken Browne the whole way just like he did Ustinov in his next fight. But he was having better success against Browne and likely would have won more rounds if the fight kept going. Browne did not have the guns to put him down. Nobody on Earth has the type of guns to get the job done.

Double Post Edit....WelliverMania Will Never Die!

Seen plenty of fights, and lots of bad ones too. But Browne vs Welliver takes the cake.

Welliver needs to retire.

He takes too many punches, he's in serious danger of having serious health problems.

No one wants to see poor Welliver get beaten up anymore.

Freedom2013 wrote:Welliver needs to retire.

He takes too many punches, he's in serious danger of having serious health problems.

No one wants to see poor Welliver get beaten up anymore.

Exactly right. Browne just about caved his head in.

Kronkpride wrote:I think it's kind of sick for some scumbag to say I want to see Welliver get hurt. And that it is a display of ignorance to say such things about Welliver anyways. When it comes to the category of boxers most likely to get hurt, Welliver is as far away from that as anybody can be. Severely mismatched guys are in danger and no man in this world severely makes Chauncy a mismatch. He can take the blows of the best men alive today and still stay standing. He's never been shown to be inept in the ring at all. All of his stoppage losses are due to other injuries and a blatant referee stoppage to make the Gold Medalist look like he did something he could not do. He's never been down and he's fought right to the top contender levels of the game. He is also very young for a HW boxer and the old as hell men campaigning are the ones likely to get hurt. Taking punches is not good for anybody but that is what boxing is about. If you're not willing to see guys get hit you are the fan of the wrong sport. And if you cannot admire guys who can take huge shots and stay standing then you have little respect for the only tool in boxing that is almost entirely god given. Chins are not built by men they are broken by men. Chauncy has a chin that no men can break.

As for him continuing to fight, I'll always support that as he will only be doing that if he has good reasons to do so. If he retired and only did training, managing and promoting I would support him in that too. He's a heck of a trainer and a heck of a manager. He doesn't have to fight so him doing so is not like these others who are stuck in ruts and need to fight to survive. Chauncy will survive with or without fighting and the only reason he will be fighting is to help his life thrive. For the money or the excitement and challenge..whatever it happens to me. He's not fighting to survive but fighting to thrive. And that is the best we can hope for any and every boxer. If you are actually worried about boxers being hurt there are thousands of better candidates than Welliver to focus your time on.

Welliver could see Teper someday. Weak chins will be leery of him now. Welliver will whip Zoltan Petranyi's arse and be back on a win streak. And we know that he will have no problem coming to Europe for a match if they call and pay him well. Solis was a short notice fight in Germany. Ustinov was a short notice fight in Russia. Welliver will always be one of those types of guys that top promoters can rely on to call as a replacement for a big fight with an assurance the fight will go rounds. For as long as he is fighting he is a type of gatekeeper and a potential jewel in the belt for any man who can actually knock him down. It may be optimistic sounding because the recent 4 fights have not been pretty in anything except establishing the quality of his chin to a more known quantity. But Welliver is only a few fights from again being a top 15 ranked guy and in title conversations. He'd need to 1, get some wins going again, 2, get in better shape again, and 3, take and win one of these fights like a Ustinov, Browne, and how Teper would be or some others. There are guys who he can beat on his best night who are currently top 15 and who he would win belts from to again crack the top 15. And he's plenty young enough to do it again if he tries to do it again. He almost had a title shot and he is not yet entirely out of the woods from the possibility to being able to get one. DeOntay Wilder is now WBC Champ....do you think he'd have been interested in Chauncy during the 2 years he was WBC top 15 rated? Damn right he would have been....and we could beat that chump. That is timing and boxing. Welliver had the talent to win the title, the timing was off. The timing could come on though at any time for him. A Teper victory now would put him back in line. Whipping Briggs arse would not be as big of a jump but it would put him closer. If he focuses on it he could again be in a top 15 and in line for the titles. If Wilder had been a couple years earlier there is little to no doubt Welliver would have been selected and then Welliver would have defeated him. He'd defeat him right now today...even at 300 pounds. He'd beat him down worse that Dustin Nichols who knocked Wilder down...400 pounder wearing sweat pants shorts knocks Wilder down. Chauncy's chin would take all he has and his chin could not stand up to Chauncy. Wilder is the most glass HW Champion to exist for the last 100 years. Unfortunately he won't survive long enough to get in line and catch him.

It's almost not worth replying to you, well, actually, it isn't worth deigning your babble with a response but I will anyway. I have the utmost respect for boxers that can take huge shots and keep standing, and as a fan of the sport I have respect for anyone who gets into the ring regardless of the level that they are operating at. I've always quite liked Welliver, and, although he was never going to win a world title his chin enabled to rise to contender level and he was very astute about the way he accumulated belts but at the moment he is little more than a punch bag and he is taking a lot of unnecessary punishment. His iron chin has changed from being a blessing into a curse...

It is not the chin that is the curse or him continuing to fight. It is the extra weight he has been fighting with that is the curse. He lost if before, probably too much, and he owns a boxing gym. So he could cut down again if he decides to do so and campaign at a 260 or so weight where he feels strong and has more quickness and stamina. At that weight he not only survives Ustinov to the distance, but he applies a lot more pressure on his opponent, throws more punches and makes more rounds competitive or his. But, the bottom line is this and it is this with all fighters. They called Chauncy with a fatter than usual offer to be a late replacement for that fight in Moscow. Even though he was too heavy to realistically compete with Ustinov and still sporting a very much black eye from the head butt in the Browne fight, he decided to take the fight. That is his right to take a big payday and he earned it there as well. A very intelligent boxing person made that call and his name is Chauncy Welliver.

If I were making calls for him I would not let him fight the top guys until he was down around 260 again. I'd take winnable fights to get a streak going until then and then take a high level fight with the chance to again get ranked. I personally do not like him fighting these guys at 300 pounds. But I will watch every fight I ever have a chance to watch that he is in and I will support his decision to take a fight no matter what he is weighing. He knows the market, the risks, what he needs for his pocket. And who are you to judge a man who can go in and make in 30 to 36 minutes what he would make at a lesser job in a year? Driving to work for a year can be very dangerous. All the times I came the closest to dying was on the road. Risks are always taken for rewards no matter what you do. The man is not a drinker or a drugger and is of sound mind. He's earned his status as DR IRON CHIN and if he wants to reap some rewards from it so be it. He's from a family of boxing trainers and boxers and he knows what is at stake in everything. I'll always support him fighting because he chooses it all himself and is very qualified to do so. But as one of his biggest fans I'd like to see a more serious approach. If you're gonna take on the baddest mamajamas you might as well do so going in with the best chance to win and try to cash in on another world ranking. I still believe he can get a title shot and win the World HW Title.

We've been hearing about this motherfucker for how many years now?

Do us a favor.. lose the gyno or hang em' up. A good boxer he is, but a great boxer he isn't and never was.

Welliver has already been hit in the head far too many times and it needs to stop for his own well being.

JCS...WelliverMania will never die. And you are witnessing boxing history being made so take note of a great legend in front of you while you can.

#1 Goerge Chuvalo 507 consecutive HW rounds without going down.

#2 Oliver McCall 428 consecutive HW rounds without going down.

#3 Chauncy Welliver 421 consecutive HW rounds without going down.

The all time streak is attainable. And now that Welliver has faced Browne and Ustinov it adds more credibility to his chin streak. And if he faces more top hitters on the way to catching Chuvalo it would be even better for setting the record. Shannon Briggs step the F up. If David Tua wants another run Welliver will see him. All the big hitters are prime game to defeat for the streak. Which is to remain standing even if you come up short on the cards. That is the biggest thing people argue about when I bring up the streaks. Quality of Chuvalo and McCall opposition to Chauncy's. But he can face some big hitters on the way and close that gap some more. Being slimmer and going into those fights to win as well would be preferable. But this streak is historic and very few people are ever in position to be the all time #1 ranked Heavy Weight in anything. Chauncy Welliver can attain the longest consecutive round streak of all time and I personally think he should attain it and we should promote the streak as he breaks it.

In this next fight with Zoltan Petranyi he is scheduled 10 rounds. If Zoltan can go the distance he will pass Oliver McCall and become the all time active leader in consecutive rounds without going down, at heavyweight and perhaps in all divisions of boxing. And he will move into the #2 all time slot behind Chuvalo. If he makes 431 with Petranyi then he is only 76 away from the tie and 77 rounds for the all time record. And if the man wanted too, he could set that record again and again as long as he wants to fight. 600+ straight rounds without going down is easily attainable for him and that is a record that no man would ever break. Chauncy Welliver would sit alone atop the list of greatest HW chins of all times.

Shut The fornicate Up About Welliver's Tits And Witness Sweet Chin Music In The Making! George Chuvalo, What You Gonna Do, When The Greatest HW Chin Of All Time Goes Flying Past You Brother?

Kronkpride wrote:JCS...WelliverMania will never die. And you are witnessing boxing history being made so take note of a great legend in front of you while you can.

#1 Goerge Chuvalo 507 consecutive HW rounds without going down.

#2 Oliver McCall 428 consecutive HW rounds without going down.

#3 Chauncy Welliver 421 consecutive HW rounds without going down.

The all time streak is attainable. And now that Welliver has faced Browne and Ustinov it adds more credibility to his chin streak. And if he faces more top hitters on the way to catching Chuvalo it would be even better for setting the record. Shannon Briggs step the F up. If David Tua wants another run Welliver will see him. All the big hitters are prime game to defeat for the streak. Which is to remain standing even if you come up short on the cards. That is the biggest thing people argue about when I bring up the streaks. Quality of Chuvalo and McCall opposition to Chauncy's. But he can face some big hitters on the way and close that gap some more. Being slimmer and going into those fights to win as well would be preferable. But this streak is historic and very few people are ever in position to be the all time #1 ranked Heavy Weight in anything. Chauncy Welliver can attain the longest consecutive round streak of all time and I personally think he should attain it and we should promote the streak as he breaks it.




In this next fight with Zoltan Petranyi he is scheduled 10 rounds. If Zoltan can go the distance he will pass Oliver McCall and become the all time active leader in consecutive rounds without going down, at heavyweight and perhaps in all divisions of boxing. And he will move into the #2 all time slot behind Chuvalo. If he makes 431 with Petranyi then he is only 76 away from the tie and 77 rounds for the all time record. And if the man wanted too, he could set that record again and again as long as he wants to fight. 600+ straight rounds without going down is easily attainable for him and that is a record that no man would ever break. Chauncy Welliver would sit alone atop the list of greatest HW chins of all times.

Shut The eff Up About Welliver's Tits And Witness Sweet Chin Music In The Making! George Chuvalo, What You Gonna Do, When The Greatest HW Chin Of All Time Goes Flying Past You Brother?

Welliver has gone down. So I guess he needs to start a new streak. I really hope you won't have to spoon feed your friend in a couple years.

Holy shit, I just noticed that Welliver is fighting over 300 now. Has the rest of his body caught up with his massive tits? I wonder if the chin bone is connected to the tit bone... as the ol' saying goes?

I like Chauncey Welliver. He seems like a cool guy. I commend you for your undying support of him. Let's be real! Welliver is too far away from being competitive with the elite in the heavyweight division. It's a pipe dream that he'll ever be anything more that what he is now.