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Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 24 Jul 2015, 07:06
by johnswan1
George Groves will have to wait a bit longer to challenge WBC super middleweight Badou Jack. The Londoner was to have fought Jack in Las Vegas on August 22 but it now looks like the fight will happen on the September 12 Floyd Mayweather Jr undercard.

Out of interest, has anybody on here booked or know anybody who had booked in to travel for this fight already? Ultimately I think Groves should be thrilled to be fighting on a terrestrial TV card like this which will attract a huge audience Stateside.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 24 Jul 2015, 07:07
by danamba7
Good news for Groves. Hopefully he can pull of the win in impressive fashion and make a name for himself stateside.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 24 Jul 2015, 07:09
by sweetscience
im booked for vegas that weekend

I am hoping this is actually on 11/09/2015 at say the Palms... be easy and cheap to get a ticket.. then id just watch Floyd in bar/area on the sat night

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 24 Jul 2015, 08:03
by keithmoonhangover
Groves is getting knocked out the next time he gets in the ring with someone who can punch.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 24 Jul 2015, 08:10
by Marlo Stanfield
keithmoonhangover wrote:Groves is getting knocked out the next time he gets in the ring with someone who can punch.
Winning a world title on September 12th though

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 24 Jul 2015, 12:49
by keithmoonhangover
Marlo Stanfield wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Groves is getting knocked out the next time he gets in the ring with someone who can punch.
Winning a world title on September 12th though
I would have thought so, but that KO is coming. Groves has looked vulnerable and prone to slugging it out in his last couple of fights.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 24 Jul 2015, 13:56
by freddydoesdallas
I always thought he was on the 12th

Has floyd named an opponent yet? Not too much official notice

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 01:55
by johnswan1
freddydoesdallas wrote:I always thought he was on the 12th

Has floyd named an opponent yet? Not too much official notice
Not officially, but it's Berto.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 02:24
by veriton
froch retires, groves fights in vegas on a floyd undercard. what does that say about eddie hearn?

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 02:36
by mickey1975
veriton wrote:froch retires, groves fights in vegas on a floyd undercard. what does that say about eddie hearn?
Nothing, really. Froch made his own mind up and Groves isn't with him.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 02:45
by squared circle
veriton wrote:froch retires, groves fights in vegas on a floyd undercard. what does that say about eddie hearn?
You've lost me mate

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 02:53
by veriton
froch was looking for big fights after he beat groves the second time. eddie couldn't deliver anything...no chavez, no golovkin, no ward etc etc froch always said he wanted to fight in vegas, didn't happen. instead the months kept on ticking by and in the end froch tired of it all and hung his gloves up. now the man he beat - groves - is fighting in vegas on a huge card getting huge exposure.

i would think groves is pretty happy, froch not so much. he's a guy with a huge chip on his shoulder anyway...

80,000 at Wembley, Groves can trot out watched by 80 million (or whatever) on TV live from Vegas. Groves edges ahead in the bragging stakes with this and that's got to hurt Carl's big ego a bit.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 02:57
by jameswilson
If we're banging out significant numbers that start with 8 then I think the 8 million quid that Froch earned for the Wembley fight will calm any jealousy he may have of Groves getting a Vegas fight on an undercard.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 03:00
by mickey1975
Highly unlikely it bothers Froch in the slightest. Froch made his mind up about retirement a long time ago, he just saw Chavez as a money fight, an easy one at that. He was proved correct when Chavez got chinned...

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 03:02
by samwbr
veriton wrote:froch was looking for big fights after he beat groves the second time. eddie couldn't deliver anything...no chavez, no golovkin, no ward etc etc froch always said he wanted to fight in vegas, didn't happen. instead the months kept on ticking by and in the end froch tired of it all and hung his gloves up. now the man he beat - groves - is fighting in vegas on a huge card getting huge exposure.

i would think groves is pretty happy, froch not so much. he's a guy with a huge chip on his shoulder anyway...

80,000 at Wembley, Groves can trot out watched by 80 million (or whatever) on TV live from Vegas. Groves edges ahead in the bragging stakes with this and that's got to hurt Carl's big ego a bit.
Froch retiring on his own terms as the highest earning super middleweight in history will keep him from stirring in the night.
And leaving Groves sparked out in a heap.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 04:24
by whiskey
This is good exposure for Groves , but it strongly depends on a few factors:

The main one has to be that Mayweather vs Berto is not on PPV, because that is going to tank.

The second is that if it is on freeview, that it's not so early in the night that it becomes a highlight clip in an empty arena.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 04:40
by Stuarty
veriton wrote:froch was looking for big fights after he beat groves the second time. eddie couldn't deliver anything...no chavez, no golovkin, no ward etc etc froch always said he wanted to fight in vegas, didn't happen. instead the months kept on ticking by and in the end froch tired of it all and hung his gloves up. now the man he beat - groves - is fighting in vegas on a huge card getting huge exposure.

i would think groves is pretty happy, froch not so much. he's a guy with a huge chip on his shoulder anyway...

80,000 at Wembley, Groves can trot out watched by 80 million (or whatever) on TV live from Vegas. Groves edges ahead in the bragging stakes with this and that's got to hurt Carl's big ego a bit.
I don't think you could blame Hearn there to be fair. The Ward or GGG fights could've been made I reckon, Froch just lost his appetite. Froch has retired at the top on his own terms after a decisive KO over Groves so I doubt Groves will ever edge ahead on the bragging stakes.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 04:42
by Stuarty
G0mez wrote:This is good exposure for Groves , but it strongly depends on a few factors:

The main one has to be that Mayweather vs Berto is not on PPV, because that is going to tank.

The second is that if it is on freeview, that it's not so early in the night that it becomes a highlight clip in an empty arena.
Yeah agree. Because it's Mayweather you will have a hell of a lot of casual fans only interested in the 'main event'. Absolute shambles of a fight. I still can't quite get my head round it.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 11:57
by veriton
Stuarty30 wrote:
G0mez wrote:This is good exposure for Groves , but it strongly depends on a few factors:

The main one has to be that Mayweather vs Berto is not on PPV, because that is going to tank.

The second is that if it is on freeview, that it's not so early in the night that it becomes a highlight clip in an empty arena.
Yeah agree. Because it's Mayweather you will have a hell of a lot of casual fans only interested in the 'main event'. Absolute shambles of a fight. I still can't quite get my head round it.

it's not the best in pedigree terms but i bet it's a better fight than mayweather v pacquiao

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 12:00
by veriton
jameswilson wrote:If we're banging out significant numbers that start with 8 then I think the 8 million quid that Froch earned for the Wembley fight will calm any jealousy he may have of Groves getting a Vegas fight on an undercard.

froch doesnt strike me as a man who obsessesses over money. if he was he would have taken a much easier route in his career. froch is all about proving himself, and he never fought in vegas..the fight capital of the world.

at the very least it's a niggle...surely

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 13:21
by whiskey
Froch had all sorts of Vegas offers since 2004.

But they've all been mediocre / undercard style affairs. Remember, numerous Hennessy fighters have fought on GBP shows, even De La Hoya vs Mayweather.

Carl boxed in L.A on a golden boy show in 2005.

'Boxing in Vegas' is one thing, having a HBO main event in Vegas is something completely difference.

So no, why would Carl be jealous of fighting a swede in front of 10,000 empty seats in the MGM?

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 14:17
by veriton
if the mayweather fight is on free tv the numbers will be huge, they will dwarf PPV numbers. mgm will be sold out too.

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 14:27
by Counter-puncher
veriton wrote:. Groves edges ahead in the bragging stakes with this.
No, he really doesn't.

"I knocked you out in front of 80,000 people for millions of ££££'s"

"I fought a Swedish unknown on someone else's undercard for a few hundred grand"

"well, that's me told, I'll just return home and cry my disappointment to the lovely Rachel Cordingley"

Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 14:49
by expe
samwbr wrote:
veriton wrote:froch was looking for big fights after he beat groves the second time. eddie couldn't deliver anything...no chavez, no golovkin, no ward etc etc froch always said he wanted to fight in vegas, didn't happen. instead the months kept on ticking by and in the end froch tired of it all and hung his gloves up. now the man he beat - groves - is fighting in vegas on a huge card getting huge exposure.

i would think groves is pretty happy, froch not so much. he's a guy with a huge chip on his shoulder anyway...

80,000 at Wembley, Groves can trot out watched by 80 million (or whatever) on TV live from Vegas. Groves edges ahead in the bragging stakes with this and that's got to hurt Carl's big ego a bit.
Froch retiring on his own terms as the highest earning super middleweight in history will keep him from stirring in the night.
And leaving Groves sparked out in a heap.
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Re: Groves-Jack pushed back to 12th September

Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 18:19
by veriton
Counter-puncher wrote:
veriton wrote:. Groves edges ahead in the bragging stakes with this.
No, he really doesn't.

"I knocked you out in front of 80,000 people for millions of ££££'s"

"I fought a Swedish unknown on someone else's undercard for a few hundred grand"

"well, that's me told, I'll just return home and cry my disappointment to the lovely Rachel Cordingley"
someone else's undercard :OhYes: someone else like the most highly paid athlete in the world and the number one boxer of this generation.

if you bring the mrs up, how about the recent pic in boxing news?