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Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 30 Jul 2015, 11:19
by johnswan1
According to Boxrec ratings. Novice status relates to each fighter having no more than 20 fights. Kid Galahad excluded from rankings whilst banned.
Quite a few of these I've never even heard of - how many of these could realistically go on to world honors?
30-Jul-15 update
1. Callum Smith 17-0
2. Anthony Joshua 13-0
3. Jack Catterall 12-0
4. Liam Walsh 19-0
5. Hughie Fury 16-0
6. Scott Cardle 18-0
7. Ahmet Patterson 15-0
8. Khalid Yafai 15-0
9. Liam Williams 12-0-1
10. Mitchell Smith 13-0
11. Martin Ward 11-0-2
12. Luke Campbell 11-0
13. Gavin McDonnell 13-0-2
14. Kevin Satchell 14-0
15. Craig Kennedy 12-0
16. Bradley Saunders 13-0
17. Tom Doran 15-0
18. Rick Skelton 13-0
19. Chris Jenkins 16-0-1
20. Dillian Whyte 14-0
21. Jamie Conlan 14-0
22. David Brophy 13-0-1
23. Johnny Coyle 10-0-1
24. Gary Corcoran 13-0
25. Tamuka Mucha 11-0
30-Mar-16 update - out go Smith, Campbell, Saunders, Skelton, Jenkins, Whyte, Conlon (still undefeated), Coyle (still undefeated.
1 Callum Smith 18 0 0
2 Anthony Joshua 15 0 0
3 Jack Catterall 14 0 0
4 Khalid Yafai 18 0 0
5 Tommy Langford 16 0 0
6 Gavin McDonnell 15 0 2
7 Hughie Fury 19 0 0
8 Liam Walsh 19 0 0
9 Gary Corcoran 15 0 0
10 Liam Williams 13 0 1
11 Martin Joseph Ward 13 0 2
12 Scott Cardle 19 0 0
13 Ahmet Patterson 17 0 0
14 Hosea Burton 15 0 0
15 Kevin Satchell 15 0 0
16 Gamal Yafai 9 0 0
17 Ryan Burnett 13 0 0
18 Isaac Lowe 12 0 1
19 Tom Doran 16 0 0
20 Craig Kennedy 14 0 0
21 Elliott Matthews 16 0 1
22 Jamie Cox 20 0 0
23 Tamuka Mucha 13 0 0
24 David Brophy 16 0 1
25 Thomas Patrick Ward 17 0 0
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 30 Jul 2015, 11:49
by Stuarty
Callum Smith isn't far away from a title shot so it's realistic he'll pick up a strap probably sooner rather than later. Liam Walsh should be there or thereabouts in the not too distant future. AJ, Campbell and Khal Yafai all have the talent to go to the top. I really like Catterall at the moment. He looks the business. Not sure about how far he will go yet but he's great to watch.
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 30 Jul 2015, 13:23
by handsofstone
That's a cracking list that
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 30 Jul 2015, 16:21
by PredatorHayds
A few good middleweights there.
This is the best I can remember for British boxing.
I can't remember the last time we had so many good flyweights.
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 30 Jul 2015, 17:12
by rd350lc
PredatorHayds wrote:A few good middleweights there.
This is the best I can remember for British boxing.
I can't remember the last time we had so many good flyweights.
Tbh , I think British Boxing in general is as good as I can remember
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 30 Jul 2015, 17:15
by keithmoonhangover
johnswan1 wrote:According to Boxrec ratings. Novice status relates to each fighter having no more than 20 fights. Kid Galahad excluded from rankings whilst banned.
Quite a few of these I've never even heard of - how many of these could realistically go on to world honors?
1. Callum Smith 17-0
2. Anthony Joshua 13-0
3. Jack Catterall 12-0
4. Liam Walsh 19-0
5. Hughie Fury 16-0
6. Scott Cardle 18-0
7. Ahmet Patterson 15-0
8. Khalid Yafai 15-0
9. Liam Williams 12-0-1
10. Mitchell Smith 13-0
11. Martin Ward 11-0-2
12. Luke Campbell 11-0
13. Gavin McDonnell 13-0-2
14. Kevin Satchell 14-0
15. Craig Kennedy 12-0
16. Bradley Saunders 13-0
17. Tom Doran 15-0
18. Rick Skelton 13-0
19. Chris Jenkins 16-0-1
20. Dillian Whyte 14-0
21. Jamie Conlan 14-0
22. David Brophy 13-0-1
23. Johnny Coyle 10-0-1
24. Gary Corcoran 13-0
25. Tamuka Mucha 11-0
Any boxers from Ireland on there?
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 30 Jul 2015, 18:10
by handsofstone
Just Conlan by the looks of it,i think Ryan Burnett looks a good fighter
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 30 Jul 2015, 22:41
by Boxingcutsman
Surprised no mention of Jamie Cox & Joe Costello in that List
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 30 Jul 2015, 22:58
by Boxingcutsman
And no Mark Heffron
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 04:31
by jonp
The boxrec pound for pound rankings have been used dean which go on the points system.
Jamie for some reason has only got 41 pts which is surprising Mucha the lowest ranked on here has got 55 so i dont think its a list based on skill or opinino just on the points that you have got on boxrec.Also has heffron been inactive for more than 12 months ? if he has you get dropped from boxrec rankings
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 04:33
by jonp
Although for me anybody winning a 12 round title cant really be classed as a novice regardless of amount of fights
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 04:34
by jonp
So for me at a glance Walsh ,cardle yafai and mcdonnel and probably others shoudnt even be on a list like that
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 04:41
by johnswan1
keithmoonhangover wrote:johnswan1 wrote:According to Boxrec ratings. Novice status relates to each fighter having no more than 20 fights. Kid Galahad excluded from rankings whilst banned.
Quite a few of these I've never even heard of - how many of these could realistically go on to world honors?
1. Callum Smith 17-0
2. Anthony Joshua 13-0
3. Jack Catterall 12-0
4. Liam Walsh 19-0
5. Hughie Fury 16-0
6. Scott Cardle 18-0
7. Ahmet Patterson 15-0
8. Khalid Yafai 15-0
9. Liam Williams 12-0-1
10. Mitchell Smith 13-0
11. Martin Ward 11-0-2
12. Luke Campbell 11-0
13. Gavin McDonnell 13-0-2
14. Kevin Satchell 14-0
15. Craig Kennedy 12-0
16. Bradley Saunders 13-0
17. Tom Doran 15-0
18. Rick Skelton 13-0
19. Chris Jenkins 16-0-1
20. Dillian Whyte 14-0
21. Jamie Conlan 14-0
22. David Brophy 13-0-1
23. Johnny Coyle 10-0-1
24. Gary Corcoran 13-0
25. Tamuka Mucha 11-0
Any boxers from Ireland on there?
No, because it's a British list, but Jason Quigley is probably as good a prospect as anybody on here.
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 05:14
by Counter-puncher
I think Callum smith is a big stiff idiot who should get massacred by any genuine toplevel supermiddle..
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 05:40
by mickey1975
I've always rated Brad Saunders. He's no feather duster man.
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 07:43
by PredatorHayds
Counter-puncher wrote:I think Callum smith is a big stiff idiot who should get massacred by any genuine toplevel supermiddle..
Disagree completely.
Callum I reckon is the best of the Smith Brothers.
I can see him beating Fielding and I'd back him to beat the winner of Jack-Groves
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 08:05
by Counter-puncher
PredatorHayds wrote:[
Callum I reckon is the best of the Smith Brothers.
I can see him beating Fielding
you're deliberately trying to damn him with faint praise, here?
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 10:19
by PredatorHayds
Would you not pick him to beat Badou Jack?
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 10:34
by Counter-puncher
PredatorHayds wrote:Would you not pick him to beat Badou Jack?
i didn't mention Badou Jack.
if had have mentioned him, I wouldn't have considered it very fulsome praise.
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 11:47
by PredatorHayds
I mentioned him in my comment though.
Callum Smith is a Top 10 SM in my opinion.
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 12:20
by Counter-puncher
PredatorHayds wrote:
Callum Smith is a Top 10 SM in my opinion.
in Britain, certainly.
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 12:54
by Wake up call
jonp wrote:Although for me anybody winning a 12 round title cant really be classed as a novice regardless of amount of fights
That was my thoughts. I wouldn't consider anyone at British title level a novice. Novice I would consider to be those with less than ten fights campaigning in four and six rounders.
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 15:31
by Boxingcutsman
[quote="jonp"]The boxrec pound for pound rankings have been used dean which go on the points system.
ok, I see, no wonder that list is a load of Bol lox then because the boxrec point system is a load of Sh*t
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 15:32
by Boxingcutsman
johnswan1 wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:johnswan1 wrote:According to Boxrec ratings. Novice status relates to each fighter having no more than 20 fights. Kid Galahad excluded from rankings whilst banned.
Quite a few of these I've never even heard of - how many of these could realistically go on to world honors?
1. Callum Smith 17-0
2. Anthony Joshua 13-0
3. Jack Catterall 12-0
4. Liam Walsh 19-0
5. Hughie Fury 16-0
6. Scott Cardle 18-0
7. Ahmet Patterson 15-0
8. Khalid Yafai 15-0
9. Liam Williams 12-0-1
10. Mitchell Smith 13-0
11. Martin Ward 11-0-2
12. Luke Campbell 11-0
13. Gavin McDonnell 13-0-2
14. Kevin Satchell 14-0
15. Craig Kennedy 12-0
16. Bradley Saunders 13-0
17. Tom Doran 15-0
18. Rick Skelton 13-0
19. Chris Jenkins 16-0-1
20. Dillian Whyte 14-0
21. Jamie Conlan 14-0
22. David Brophy 13-0-1
23. Johnny Coyle 10-0-1
24. Gary Corcoran 13-0
25. Tamuka Mucha 11-0
Any boxers from Ireland on there?
No, because it's a British list, but Jason Quigley is probably as good a prospect as anybody on here.
Yh spot on, Quigley is a seriously good fighter
Re: Top 25 undefeated British novices
Posted: 31 Jul 2015, 18:31
by leejonesjnr
billy bessey wrote:No Sam Eggington?
Sam isn't undefeated