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The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 07 Aug 2015, 00:38
by bnovelist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2elQ1dvY3Yc You can really tell back in the day when Mayweather called him out he truely respected this guy

as a true STAR. Even more than Oscar!!!! Floyd wanted this guy's status so bad!!! For everyone that followed boxing in 2000-2001 you know!

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 07 Aug 2015, 03:06
by Chepppaaa
prince was the best

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 08 Aug 2015, 23:26
by Lancenix
Prince's resume is hallow and he was outclassed badly by MAB. More of a fraud than anything. Reminds me of Broner.

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 08 Aug 2015, 23:45
by knockouts67
Chepppaaa wrote:prince was the best
At what?

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 03:52
by NateJR
Great entertainer, great to watch but was seriously flawed as a fighter. I personally miss Hamed and what he brought to the sportl, that type of entertainment is missing in todays scene of boxing. I don't believe for a second that Hamed was a fraud and I wouldn't put Broners name anywhere close to Hamed, that's a insult to Hamed IMO.

What truly hurt Hamed as a fighter was his lack of dedication to the sport. It's on record that Hamed would never go to training camp and I'd say for what Hamed put into his training he went pretty far in the sport of boxing. Hamed had unbelievable power for a guy his size and really had great natural talent, but just didn't have the fundamentals or work ethic to keep himself at the top. But MAB did embarrass him into retirement and it was unfortunate for the sport boxing, when a guy like him leaves at the peak of his career because he lost to a great fighter.. I believe Hamed still had a lot in the tank, he just couldn't handle idea of losing.. And on record, MAB didn't embarrass him as badly as a lot of people make it out to be.

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 03:59
by KBB
Hamed was so fundamentally flawed it was actually kind of pathetic that he made it as far as he did and beat some pretty decent fighters despite his handicap in basic boxing 101.

I was so glad when MAB beat the dogsh*t outta him though, I longed for someone to decapitate that little piece of poo and Barrera just simply took all the fight out of him the way he not only handily beat him but he took all Naz's best shots, laughed at him and humiliated him by bashing his head against the ringpost while bumrushing him over there in a full Nelson, lol.

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 04:08
by Nightmare Roy
I grew up 50 miles down the road from Hamed and I jumped with Joy when MAB beat him. He's a complete bell end!

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 07:55
by IRLangmaid25
He was unorthodox because of the Ingles and they focussed a lot on defence and upper body movement. He was merely following Herol Graham who was equally unorthodox as well because of the Ingle gym.

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 07:59
by palooka
KBB wrote:Hamed was so fundamentally flawed it was actually kind of pathetic that he made it as far as he did and beat some pretty decent fighters despite his handicap in basic boxing 101.

I was so glad when MAB beat the dogsh*t outta him though, I longed for someone to decapitate that little piece of poo and Barrera just simply took all the fight out of him the way he not only handily beat him but he took all Naz's best shots, laughed at him and humiliated him by bashing his head against the ringpost while bumrushing him over there in a full Nelson, lol.
Hamed was a brilliant junior amateur and had an excellent jab and textbook moves. he developed his power in his final year as an amateur and then used his unorthodox moves to destroy some very capable textbook boxers.

Losing to Barerra doesn't mean he was rubbish. He'd gone way off the rails by then and was spoiled and pampered - on the way up (Belcastro and Cruz bouts) he was incredible and just about untouchable.

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 08:59
by caldo2025
Prince perfected the bad guy role and definitely paved the way for Floyd. As with most of Floyd's fights, most people tuned into Prince's fights hoping to see him lose. There's a lot of money in that brand of fighter marketing. I'm not sure if Prince was straight or homosexual but he sure had some uncomfortable moments in that ring where you didn't know if he was going to punch the guy or make out with him. He was flamboyant and mean and was one heck of a dancer. His ring walk was absolutely hilarious and again uncomfortable to watch. We'll never see another one like this guy.

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 10:03
by SNG
palooka wrote:
KBB wrote:Hamed was so fundamentally flawed it was actually kind of pathetic that he made it as far as he did and beat some pretty decent fighters despite his handicap in basic boxing 101.

I was so glad when MAB beat the dogsh*t outta him though, I longed for someone to decapitate that little piece of poo and Barrera just simply took all the fight out of him the way he not only handily beat him but he took all Naz's best shots, laughed at him and humiliated him by bashing his head against the ringpost while bumrushing him over there in a full Nelson, lol.
Hamed was a brilliant junior amateur and had an excellent jab and textbook moves. he developed his power in his final year as an amateur and then used his unorthodox moves to destroy some very capable textbook boxers.

Losing to Barerra doesn't mean he was rubbish. He'd gone way off the rails by then and was spoiled and pampered - on the way up (Belcastro and Cruz bouts) he was incredible and just about untouchable.
:TU:

What still impresses me to this day is that he carried power in practically every shot, no matter how seemingly innocuous. He was a real banger, and was one of the most exciting boxers to watch when I was growing up. I doubt I'd be as big as a fan if it wasn't for watching Hamed in the 90s.

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 10:21
by handsofstone
I loved Naz,i was still a kid when he was doing his thing but i still remember always watching him,being young i used to love all the bravado,the cockyness and even the ring entrances i used to look forward to,just to see what he would do next,i remember he fought a fighter called Cabrera and KO'd him in 2 rounds but i had that fight on tape and i used to watch it constantly,i was about 12 at that point,and i remember he came into the ring to Ultra Nate's Free :yay:

I always remember being frustrated with him in the Barrera fight,he just didnt seem to want it and i always felt the loss would do him good and he'd come back and beat Barrera if he was fully focused,i havent watched the fight since so i may be way off

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 10:28
by Badhusker
He would have also lost to Pacquiao, JMM, and Morales during that time. Unorthodox with a good punch and jab, but horrible defense. Good flip into the ring though.

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 10:32
by SNG
Badhusker wrote:He would have also lost to Pacquiao, JMM, and Morales during that time. Unorthodox with a good punch and jab, but horrible defense. Good flip into the ring though.
He'd have starched the young Pacquiao what are you in about?

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 11:48
by bnovelist
Nah man he downfall was that he pulled a Tyson like move getting rid of Ingle, he was what Rooney was to Iron Mike. A focused, hungry Hamed

moved his head like a young Cassius Clay during the Liston era. I remember those Hamed days he was a BONAFIDE mainstream star. He was

as big of a star that Manny is today in such little time. In fact I have so much respect for Hamed's marketing ability he is right up there with

Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Marciano, Ali, Tyson, Hamed, now Mayweather Jr.

Marketing wise these guys were killing it! They had that charisma that made people want to tune in. Hamed was a marketing POWERHOUSE.

The new??? Conor McGregor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMlClatKyQw

But yeah man Floyd you could tell labeled Hamed as a real true star...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_lJKInqhtU I miss Hamed he had that

mainstream appeal like a muthaf@cker! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_lJKInqhtU In fact Hamed had so much damn charisma and flair

that he had stayed hungry he would've been right next to Ali in terms of drawing power. Hamed's Star appeal is truely underrated he created a buzz

really fast Broner was nowhere near Hamed's public persona and attraction. Look at this damn ring entrance man gives me the chills!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_lJKInqhtU

Re: The Forgotten Diva Before Floyd

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 17:49
by KBB
bnovelist wrote:Nah man he downfall was that he pulled a Tyson like move getting rid of Ingle, he was what Rooney was to Iron Mike. A focused, hungry Hamed

moved his head like a young Cassius Clay during the Liston era. I remember those Hamed days he was a BONAFIDE mainstream star. He was

as big of a star that Manny is today in such little time. In fact I have so much respect for Hamed's marketing ability he is right up there with

Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Marciano, Ali, Tyson, Hamed, now Mayweather Jr.

Marketing wise these guys were killing it! They had that charisma that made people want to tune in. Hamed was a marketing POWERHOUSE.

The new??? Conor McGregor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMlClatKyQw

But yeah man Floyd you could tell labeled Hamed as a real true star...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_lJKInqhtU I miss Hamed he had that

mainstream appeal like a muthaf@cker! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_lJKInqhtU In fact Hamed had so much damn charisma and flair

that he had stayed hungry he would've been right next to Ali in terms of drawing power. Hamed's Star appeal is truely underrated he created a buzz

really fast Broner was nowhere near Hamed's public persona and attraction. Look at this damn ring entrance man gives me the chills!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_lJKInqhtU
Hector Camacho Sr's entrances were much better than the entrances by Hamed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kabIxFW3d2o