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Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 04:28
by johnswan1
Junior featherweight contender Scott Quigg (31-0, 23 KOs), who impressively stopped former beltholder Kiko Martinez in two rounds last month, switched places in the 122-pound rankings with UK rival Carl Frampton, who got up from two first-round knockdowns against unrated Alejandro Gonzalez to win on points. Quigg is now rated No. 1. Frampton (21-0, 14 KOs), the holder of the IBF title, is rated No. 3.
Rigondeaux recognised as the Champion, with Quigg no.1 contender.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 05:45
by danamba7
Interesting. I can understand their logic. Hate the term Junior Featherweight though. It's definitely Super Bantamweight.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 06:00
by Stuarty
Hopefully the two of them can settle it in the ring. I think Frampton is getting a bit too much stick for the Gonzalez performance. Gonzalez was a lot better than what most people expected and Frampton was a clear winner away from home. I still think Frampton wins but Quiggs win over Martinez definitely puts a little bit of doubt in my mind and makes the fight much closer on paper.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 06:09
by Tarkus
Signing with Al must have taken away some points. There is no argument for Quigg been higher then Frampton. Quigg beat Kiko who Frampton had already beaten, twice. The rest of the Quiggs opponents are C level and are worse then Framptons.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 07:52
by pyenest77
Quigg destroyer Martinez in fairness while Frampton had a late stoppage & a points win. Which means even though his opposition has been wank he did a better job.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 08:22
by THEBUTCH
A nonsense. Most of Quigg's opposition is very sub-standard (but perfectly acceptable for Skysports, so there's all the proof you need to know how below par it must be).
Winning in Amercia against a young, hungry contender (who was very underrated on the Boxrec forum) carried more weight IMO.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 08:24
by freddydoesdallas
Probably not going to help in any negotiations between the two camps
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 08:35
by expe
It's the super bantamweight and the Ring are a joke, have been for a long time.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 08:36
by johnswan1
expe wrote:It's the super bantamweight and the Ring are a joke, have been for a long time.
Still the best ratings around, most of the time.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 08:44
by freddydoesdallas
johnswan1 wrote:expe wrote:It's the super bantamweight and the Ring are a joke, have been for a long time.
Still the best ratings around, most of the time.
the sex panther of the ratings system!
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 08:55
by expe
johnswan1 wrote:expe wrote:It's the super bantamweight and the Ring are a joke, have been for a long time.
Still the best ratings around, most of the time.
TBRB are far better, ESPN are better and so are Boxing Monthly. The Ring have been living off their reputation for years now.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 09:36
by Horse
THEBUTCH wrote:A nonsense. Most of Quigg's opposition is very sub-standard (but perfectly acceptable for Skysports, so there's all the proof you need to know how below par it must be).
Winning in Amercia against a young, hungry contender (who was very underrated on the Boxrec forum) carried more weight IMO.
You think beating Gonzalez Jr is better than beating Martinez?
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 09:44
by Gazmac81
Id like to see how quigg would do against Gonzalez Junior but id rather just see Quigg vs Frampton asap.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 10:00
by danamba7
I really do think Quigg is underrated on this forum.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 10:03
by freddydoesdallas
danamba7 wrote:I really do think Quigg is underrated on this forum.
it's swings and roundabouts with these two. A couple of years back i think most would have favoured Quigg over Frampton but Frampton took on better opponents and raced ahead. Would only take a big win (over someone Frampton hasn't already beaten) to give him the boost to get ahead.
I'm biased and sticking with the Jackal anyway
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 10:39
by PredatorHayds
Absolute nonsense that Quigg gets promoted in the ranking because he beat someone that Frampton had already beat twice.
Quigg isn't even a genuine world champion. I'd have him 4 or 5 on my list.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 10:58
by whiskey
PredatorHayds wrote:Absolute nonsense that Quigg gets promoted in the ranking because he beat someone that Frampton had already beat twice.
Quigg isn't even a genuine world champion. I'd have him 4 or 5 on my list.
Would that be the same guy that Rendall Munroe beat twice before Frampton ?
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 11:28
by danamba7
PredatorHayds wrote:Absolute nonsense that Quigg gets promoted in the ranking because he beat someone that Frampton had already beat twice.
Quigg isn't even a genuine world champion. I'd have him 4 or 5 on my list.
Frampton beat him fair and square twice, but Quigg destroyed him. It seemed the majority were saying before the fight that Martinez has improved and would KO Quigg. He deserves props for the win. Frampton V Quigg is a genuine 50/50 in my eyes and would be great for boxing in the UK.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 11:45
by expe
danamba7 wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:Absolute nonsense that Quigg gets promoted in the ranking because he beat someone that Frampton had already beat twice.
Quigg isn't even a genuine world champion. I'd have him 4 or 5 on my list.
Frampton beat him fair and square twice, but Quigg destroyed him. It seemed the majority were saying before the fight that Martinez has improved and would KO Quigg. He deserves props for the win. Frampton V Quigg is a genuine 50/50 in my eyes and would be great for boxing in the UK.
Martinez has improved since he lost to Munroe and probably after his first defeat to Frampton, but not since their fight last September. Quigg deserves credit for the win but I didn't find it any more impressive than either of Frampton's wins over Martinez, less impressive in many ways. I really wouldn't call it a destruction, Martinez dominated the first round then Quigg dropped him in the second and finished him off well, if that goes down as a destruction then the same could be the said about Frampton's first win over him, Martinez gave him some trouble for a while, then Frampton flattened him with one punch.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 11:53
by Tarkus
pyenest77 wrote:Quigg destroyer Martinez in fairness while Frampton had a late stoppage & a points win. Which means even though his opposition has been wank he did a better job.
Thats hardly enough to rate him higher. One win is still less then two wins even if the finish is quicker. And dont forget which were first and also that Frampton took Kikos world title with the second win.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 12:00
by Boxerbeetle
I'm a fan of both fighters, but Frampton is getting way too much credit on here at the moment. Frampton looked like crap against Gonzales - if Quigg had looked that bad, he'd be ridiculed on here. And somehow Frampton also manages to get more credit for beating Martinez twice in less impressive fashion than Quigg did?
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 12:23
by Boxing Prospect
Sounds like Wake is going to chase his mandatory shot against Frampton, that'd be a good win if he beats him.... Quigg had fought some terrible opposition recently...be nice to see him with Donaire around the same date...
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 13:08
by Lenny Cravats
johnswan1 wrote:expe wrote:It's the super bantamweight and the Ring are a joke, have been for a long time.
Still the best ratings around, most of the time.
As long as Horse is about, they best anyone can hope for is 2nd.
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 11 Aug 2015, 14:47
by Horse
Lenny Cravats wrote:As long as Horse is about, they best anyone can hope for is 2nd.
True that!
Re: Quigg replaces Framption as Ring no.1 Junior Featherweight
Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 04:12
by pyenest77
Quigg isn't even a genuine world champion. I'd have him 4 or 5 on my list.[/quote]
I thought we were talking about Quigg v Frampton whether Quigg is a world champion (which he isnt) is irrelevant.