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Paul Williams Article

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 12:00
by jamesmcdonnell
I found myself wondering how he was doing....

Found this, not exactly brand new, but a good read.

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/d ... l-williams

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 20 Aug 2015, 06:38
by black panther
Thanks for sharing that mate; a nice read and what a great attitude he has. Puts into perspective our problems doesn't it? The man can't walk but doesn't complain one bit and seems very happy.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 20 Aug 2015, 11:09
by jamesmcdonnell
black panther wrote:Thanks for sharing that mate; a nice read and what a great attitude he has. Puts into perspective our problems doesn't it? The man can't walk but doesn't complain one bit and seems very happy.
Quite inspirational, thought it was a good piece, especially as it touched on the darker side of his condition, the story about him soiling himself when trying to leave the house was pretty informative on what he's facing right now.

I hope for his sake that he does recover enough to walk again - though it doesn't seem likely so long after the event, but whatever happens, it appears he's doing as ok as you can in such circumstances. Maybe he can become some form of wheelchair athlete, he's got the genetics for it, don't know if he's any good at basketball, but he's definitely got the arms for it.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 20 Aug 2015, 12:34
by hitman_hatton1
likes moaning that todays fighters have no heart.

sounds more like iran barkley by the day. :OhYes:

but aside from that good to see him taking things on the chin.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 20 Aug 2015, 13:15
by Terminator666
Luckily for him he has the use of his arms. So many bike accidents end up with the rider completely paralysed which makes a big difference to the kind of life they can have.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 20 Aug 2015, 17:00
by Counter-puncher
I really enjoyed that, thanks for sharing.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 09:39
by jamesmcdonnell
Counter-puncher wrote:I really enjoyed that, thanks for sharing.
My pleasure Senor.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 09:43
by veriton
whenever i read Hayabusa i just think tool...sorry, im a bike fan but theres only one type of person who buys a bike like that. sorry to hear about his injury.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 10:06
by jamesmcdonnell
veriton wrote:whenever i read Hayabusa i just think tool...sorry, im a bike fan but theres only one type of person who buys a bike like that. sorry to hear about his injury.
Jeez, a bit harsh no?

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 10:33
by veriton
ive got sympathy with anyone who gets hurt on a bike, but Hayabusas are built and bought for one reason...

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 10:49
by jamesmcdonnell
veriton wrote:ive got sympathy with anyone who gets hurt on a bike, but Hayabusas are built and bought for one reason...
Which is? I don't know jack about bikes myself.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 12:46
by veriton
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
veriton wrote:ive got sympathy with anyone who gets hurt on a bike, but Hayabusas are built and bought for one reason...
Which is? I don't know jack about bikes myself.
when the japanese built it, it was the world's fastest street bike. it was so fast, that they had to being in new regulations to limit the power of road bikes. tell me what kind of person buys a bike like that and rides it on public roads.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 12:51
by Counter-puncher
veriton wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
veriton wrote:ive got sympathy with anyone who gets hurt on a bike, but Hayabusas are built and bought for one reason...
Which is? I don't know jack about bikes myself.
when the japanese built it, it was the world's fastest street bike. it was so fast, that they had to being in new regulations to limit the power of road bikes. tell me what kind of person buys a bike like that and rides it on public roads.
i take it you have met banjo, of this parish?

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 12:54
by jamesmcdonnell
veriton wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
veriton wrote:ive got sympathy with anyone who gets hurt on a bike, but Hayabusas are built and bought for one reason...
Which is? I don't know jack about bikes myself.
when the japanese built it, it was the world's fastest street bike. it was so fast, that they had to being in new regulations to limit the power of road bikes. tell me what kind of person buys a bike like that and rides it on public roads.
Thing is - boxers are by nature, risk takers, it's testosterone, it leads people to make really dumbass decisions. Diego Corrales went the same way, Jack Johnson had a love of fast cars which was ultimately his undoing. It shouldn't really be surprising that fighters and former fighters often get themselves in shtuck through poor decision making.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 18:33
by veriton
Yeah true. Love boxing but some boxers are simply fools. If you know anything about bikes you know what that bike means so hard to have too much sympathy. Just be glad he didn't take anyone else

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 05:35
by banjo
veriton wrote:
when the japanese built it, it was the world's fastest street bike. it was so fast, that they had to being in new regulations to limit the power of road bikes. tell me what kind of person buys a bike like that and rides it on public roads.
I have a ZX14(which is way more powerful than a Hayabusa) but then I used to race bikes so I'm more skilled than your average road biker.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 06:59
by IRLangmaid25
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
veriton wrote:ive got sympathy with anyone who gets hurt on a bike, but Hayabusas are built and bought for one reason...
Which is? I don't know jack about bikes myself.
It is a 1300cc cylinder Superbike that does only 186mph. A mae of mine rode one and does effing shift.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 15:06
by banjo
A rider who hurts themselves on a Hayabusa is just as likely to hurt themselves on a moped, it's not the bike that kills it's the lack of talent. It's often said that bikes are dangerous when in fact they are inherently safe as you have two whopping big gyroscopes keeping it upright, if it falls over then it's the fault of either the rider or other road users.

Ever heard of the saying "nut behind the wheel" ?

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 24 Aug 2015, 07:31
by jamesmcdonnell
banjo wrote:A rider who hurts themselves on a Hayabusa is just as likely to hurt themselves on a moped, it's not the bike that kills it's the lack of talent. It's often said that bikes are dangerous when in fact they are inherently safe as you have two whopping big gyroscopes keeping it upright, if it falls over then it's the fault of either the rider or other road users.

Ever heard of the saying "nut behind the wheel" ?
Bikes are inherently dangerous, as there's zero protection for a rider when things go wrong. At least on a bicycle, you're struggling to get up enough speed to do really serious damage, unless someone ploughs into you of course, or your get swiped under the wheels of a truck, in which case you are most likely dead.

It sounds like in this instance, he was going too fast, and then didn't have an option to escape ploughing into something when the driver in front of him swerved suddenly. Had he been going at a more reasonable speed, he'd have had time to do something about it, but he could easily have done the same speed on an ordinary motorbike, he was only doing 80 miles an hour, most mopeds will do that or more these days.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 24 Aug 2015, 14:58
by veriton
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
banjo wrote:A rider who hurts themselves on a Hayabusa is just as likely to hurt themselves on a moped, it's not the bike that kills it's the lack of talent. It's often said that bikes are dangerous when in fact they are inherently safe as you have two whopping big gyroscopes keeping it upright, if it falls over then it's the fault of either the rider or other road users.

Ever heard of the saying "nut behind the wheel" ?
Bikes are inherently dangerous, as there's zero protection for a rider when things go wrong. At least on a bicycle, you're struggling to get up enough speed to do really serious damage, unless someone ploughs into you of course, or your get swiped under the wheels of a truck, in which case you are most likely dead.

It sounds like in this instance, he was going too fast, and then didn't have an option to escape ploughing into something when the driver in front of him swerved suddenly. Had he been going at a more reasonable speed, he'd have had time to do something about it, but he could easily have done the same speed on an ordinary motorbike, he was only doing 80 miles an hour, most mopeds will do that or more these days.
the hayabusa is the equivalent of the subaru impreza in the car world. yes, you can still do 80 in a fiat punto and kill yourself but there is a world of difference in the mentality between the type of people who own either car.

some people love crazy fast bikes, that's why kawasaki just brought out the H2...but who would really ride it on a public road? anyway, as its a boxing forum just terrible to hear about williams' crash, he was a real talent.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 24 Aug 2015, 15:01
by banjo
Doesn't mean we're all some crazy nutjob though just because we have a powerful bike.

Re: Paul Williams Article

Posted: 24 Aug 2015, 16:08
by magwitch
What a great guy. I remember him bursting on to the scene. Good luck Paul Williams :salut:

Reading this reminds me of Michael Watson's brilliant autobiog. Hard, lonely time in rehabilitation with any visitors sometimes being days apart. must be so tough that, you've got to really hand it to these guys.