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1. (1.) Kell Brook
2. (2.) Carl Frampton
3. (3.) Amir Khan
4. (4.) James DeGale
5. (5.) Scott Quigg
6. (6.) Jamie McDonnell
7. (7.) Tyson Fury
8. (8.) George Groves
9. (9.) Lee Selby
10. (10.) Andy Lee (Irish)

11. (11.) Martin Murray
12. (12.) Lee Haskins
13. (13.) Ola Afolabi
14. (14.) Ricky Burns
15. (15.) Tony Bellew
16. (16.) Billy Joe Saunders
17. (17.) Liam Walsh
18. (18.) Dereck Chisora
19. (19.) Stuart Hall
20. (20.) Paul Butler

21. (21.) Chris Eubank Jr
22. (22.) Anthony Crolla
23. (23.) Paul Smith
24. (24.) Kevin Mitchell
25. (25.) Callum Smith
26. (26.) Terry Flanagan
27. (NE.) Luke Campbell
28. (27.) Frankie Gavin
29. (28.) Derry Mathews
30. (29.) Anthony Joshua

Out - (30.) Ovill McKenzie

Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

In my opinion:

Paul Smith needs to be dropped.

Bellew too high if Clev is not even in the rankings.

Lee should be higher than Groves.

Ricky Burns too high.

Chisora too high.

Thought Josh Warrington could be in there...

Maybe get rid of smith (paul), move everyone else below him up one and add in Warrington

Crolla deserves to be higher - and certainly higher than Eubank Jr.

Mckenzie should be in there. Fringe world class now.

Flanagan too low. Underrated in my opinion.

johnswan1 wrote:Paul Smith needs to be dropped.

His current position seems reasonable to me.

johnswan1 wrote:Bellew too high if Clev is not even in the rankings.

Fair point.

johnswan1 wrote:Lee should be higher than Groves.

If Groves loses to Jack then he'll fall below Lee.

johnswan1 wrote:Ricky Burns too high.

He did well against Figueroa recently, so I think he deserves a fairly high ranking considering his solid record.

johnswan1 wrote:Chisora too high.

He does seem a bit too high.

Crazyboy wrote:Thought Josh Warrington could be in there...

Maybe get rid of smith (paul), move everyone else below him up one and add in Warrington

Warrington's recent run has been very poor, but he'll probably re-enter if he beats Brunker this weekend.

Boxerbeetle wrote:Crolla deserves to be higher - and certainly higher than Eubank Jr.

Yeah, I probably should have moved him higher after his last fight.

Horse wrote:

Crazyboy wrote:Thought Josh Warrington could be in there...

Maybe get rid of smith (paul), move everyone else below him up one and add in Warrington

Warrington's recent run has been very poor, but he'll probably re-enter if he beats Brunker this weekend.

Warrington was very disappointing in his last outing but his recent run is outstanding and includes winning the British , Commonwealth and European titles ! .
IMO he is a glaring omission from the list .

AJ , whilst a tremendous prospect has not been in a single fight of note and only been into the third round once.

Liam Walsh is too high.

Luke Campbell should be top 10.

Selby above Groves.......

I would put Selby above Groves and Fury,
Mitchell above Paul Smith
and move Crolla into the top 15.

But all in all it is a good list

I'd put Selby above Fury and Groves.
Fury has yet to fight at World level and Groves has twice and lost both times.
Selby has a belt and although a world title isn't the be all and end all, he looked every bit the world class operator in his bout.
After Groves and Fury fight their upcoming bouts I may change my stance, but for the moment I feel Selby has earned the right to be considered among the very best British fighters just now.
And this is coming from someone who thought Selby was all show and wouldn't make it at the top level. I'm pleased to admit I'm wrong and my opinion of Lee has changed drastically over his last 2 bouts

I can't fathom how Stuart Hall and Paul Smith rank so highly, perhaps it stick in my craw that both men have been given repeated undeserved chances and proven time and again, with out doubt to be quite comfortably below world level.

Ricky_ wrote:Luke Campbell should be top 10.

Based on what? 1 over-hyped domestic level clash.

The talent is there but until he's proven it against quality, I can't see what you think puts him above a Lee or Selby, who are world level operators already

davie wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:Luke Campbell should be top 10.

Based on what? 1 over-hyped domestic level clash.

The talent is there but until he's proven it against quality, I can't see what you think puts him above a Lee or Selby, who are world level operators already

Could say the same about Tyson Fury who's best win is a fat British level bum he's beat twice.

Raw talent for me is the biggest factor in p4p, the very nature of p4p i rank on skill. I still consider level of opposition, which is why i'd certainly have our world champions above Luke, but skill wise, it seems obvious to me he's better than the majority of the names from 20-11. Anyone who thinks Bellew is better for example needs a shake.

Ricky_ wrote:

davie wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:Luke Campbell should be top 10.

Based on what? 1 over-hyped domestic level clash.

The talent is there but until he's proven it against quality, I can't see what you think puts him above a Lee or Selby, who are world level operators already

Could say the same about Tyson Fury who's best win is a fat British level bum he's beat twice.

Raw talent for me is the biggest factor in p4p, the very nature of p4p i rank on skill. I still consider level of opposition, which is why i'd certainly have our world champions above Luke, but skill wise, it seems obvious to me he's better than the majority of the names from 20-11. Anyone who thinks Bellew is better for example needs a shake.

Bellew's a very average fighter.

But I can't rank Campbell a great deal higher than he is. He has looked good. But i've seen so many guys look "world class" at domestic level and below then come up short when they step up in class. I don't dispute Luke looks quality but it has been at a very low level so far. Tommy Coyle was his best opponent by a distance and he is domestic level. Luke has a lot to prove.


Fury's opposition may not have been the best but it's a lot better than Tommy Coyle.

PredatorHayds wrote:Mckenzie should be in there. Fringe world class now.

McKenzie has been on a nice run, but his opposition hasn't been the best and there is a lot of competition for a place on the list.

Stuarty30 wrote:Flanagan too low. Underrated in my opinion.

If he had won his world title in more convincing fashion then he'd be quite a bit higher.

If he beats Magdaleno next month then he'll move a lot higher up the list.

Fortynineandout wrote:Warrington was very disappointing in his last outing but his recent run is outstanding and includes winning the British , Commonwealth and European titles ! .
IMO he is a glaring omission from the list .

Warrington's recent run has been far from outstanding.

Fortynineandout wrote:AJ , whilst a tremendous prospect has not been in a single fight of note and only been into the third round once.

Joshua has been in plenty of fights of note.

davie wrote:I'd put Selby above Fury and Groves.
Fury has yet to fight at World level and Groves has twice and lost both times.
Selby has a belt and although a world title isn't the be all and end all, he looked every bit the world class operator in his bout.
After Groves and Fury fight their upcoming bouts I may change my stance, but for the moment I feel Selby has earned the right to be considered among the very best British fighters just now.
And this is coming from someone who thought Selby was all show and wouldn't make it at the top level. I'm pleased to admit I'm wrong and my opinion of Lee has changed drastically over his last 2 bouts

I can't fathom how Stuart Hall and Paul Smith rank so highly, perhaps it stick in my craw that both men have been given repeated undeserved chances and proven time and again, with out doubt to be quite comfortably below world level.

Repeated undeserved chances? He got one chance (Stuey) and took it.....
Bit harsh that mate.

Horse wrote:

PredatorHayds wrote:Mckenzie should be in there. Fringe world class now.

McKenzie has been on a nice run, but his opposition hasn't been the best and there is a lot of competition for a place on the list.

He is fringe world class which is a level above
Chisora
Stuart hall
Paul smith
Luke Campbell

PredatorHayds wrote:

Horse wrote:

PredatorHayds wrote:Mckenzie should be in there. Fringe world class now.

McKenzie has been on a nice run, but his opposition hasn't been the best and there is a lot of competition for a place on the list.

He is fringe world class which is a level above
Chisora
Stuart hall
Paul smith
Luke Campbell

How exactly is he fringe world class?

Ovill's a domestic level fighter with a punchers chance against anyone that doesn't have a granite chin and that's coming from a fan of his.