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Like it or not, the forum needed this thread in the name of discouraging every other Green and Mundine thread from ending up full of this subject. We have already seen it derail and dominate other current threads - including the one intended to be about Pitt calling out Green.

So here it is. Go your hardest. Will Mundine vs Green happen and why??

No. They are too far apart in weight,will never agree to weight or purse split and Mundine will not risk the fact he's one up on Green. Plus Green has been crying and making excuses for 9 years and Mundine probably enjoys that.

Greeny needs to earn his shot at Anthony first.

I think Green is under constant pressure from the bogans who were made to look like idiots after the first clinic.
I clearly remember hearing Danny say " he beat me fair and square''. I could be wrong, i was sitting in the middle of a lot of Green fans and
it was hard to hear the post fight speeches amongst all the sobbing.
It's nearly a decade later and some people can't move on. We seen them at their prime and Danny was lucky to win a round.
I don't think the second fight will happen. They both have a lot of money, much more than their talent deserved and Anthony really gets off
hearing how Danny is so desperate for the re match.

I was at their first fight and Choc won clearly. But the weight difference is huge so by rights it shouldn't happen. The hardest thing in boxing is cutting weight. Mundine has struggled for a fair few years to get to 69.85kg. He's not going to ruin all that hard work to go up to 79.38kgs. That's just my opinion.

isn't choc facing canelo and then Floyd?

so this fight will have to wait.

Axl wrote:I think Green is under constant pressure from the bogans who were made to look like idiots after the first clinic.
I clearly remember hearing Danny say " he beat me fair and square''. I could be wrong, i was sitting in the middle of a lot of Green fans and
it was hard to hear the post fight speeches amongst all the sobbing.
It's nearly a decade later and some people can't move on. We seen them at their prime and Danny was lucky to win a round.
I don't think the second fight will happen. They both have a lot of money, much more than their talent deserved and Anthony really gets off
hearing how Danny is so desperate for the re match.

Yeah heres a clip with him saying his weights beautiful at the weigh in and his post fight speech saying Anthony beat me fair and square. And about him making Cameron strip 9kg to fight him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhSZ8kiXbw

I don't think it will happen either but they both like money(who doesn't)so I wouldn't completely discount it. I wouldn't bother paying for it but a lot would.

there is no doubt at all that u will indeed pay to see it.

u talk about these 2 guys 24 hours a day and then expect people to believe u won't pay to see it?

yeah sure, lol.

u will be first in line to order it I bet.

Axl wrote:I think Green is under constant pressure from the bogans who were made to look like idiots after the first clinic.
I clearly remember hearing Danny say " he beat me fair and square''. I could be wrong, i was sitting in the middle of a lot of Green fans and
it was hard to hear the post fight speeches amongst all the sobbing.
It's nearly a decade later and some people can't move on. We seen them at their prime and Danny was lucky to win a round.
I don't think the second fight will happen. They both have a lot of money, much more than their talent deserved and Anthony really gets off
hearing how Danny is so desperate for the re match.

The past

The fight should have already happened. Green got schooled that night and like he said he had no excuses.
Mundine was the better business man at the time (has been stated by mundine) and dictated the terms with weight being one of them. Green had already moved to light heavy before the fight knowing that he was struggling to make super middle. Mundine knew green was struggling to make the weight and capitalized on it. Smart move. Would it have been a different out come ar a higher catchweight? Probably not but maybe.

Their careers

Since 2006 green has done a lot with his career mundine has not. Green has improved a lot and mundine has slid a little. Thats what makes the rematch interesting. Once on parr green is now VASTLY more popular. He holds the cards as far as dictating the fight but he wants it more than mundine therefore he gives up his hand and will loose on the negotiations. If green fights under light heavy then he is a fool and deserves to loose.

The weight/wait

Green cannot and should not make any weight under light heavy. Mundine is FAR from naturally suited to his current fighting weight. Does anyone know his walk around weight? Mundine has many times struggled to make his fight weight though less documented recently. This also suggests that he should move up in weight. My guess is that he drops around 7 kilos to weigh in. If this true the he doesn't have to gain that much more weight to fight green. Gaining weight at both fighters advanced age is far more natural and healthy than loosing muscle mass. Green needs to come down a few kilos mundine needs to come up a few. The natural weight difference really isn't that far apart and it should be easier and healthier for mundine to come up than green to go down. Advantage mundine.

The outcome

At greens more natural weight he has the opportunity to use his power both punching and wrestling. He may be able bully the hard to hit mundine and wear him down. Green has improved a lot skill wise since 2006. He uses the ring better and has improved his footwork greatly. His shots are much more accurate especially his jab. He now has a lot more patience and generally a higher ring IQ than before.
Mundine has not really shown anything new other than his weight loss. If anything his reflexes have slowed and that was one of the crucial factors in their first meeting. Green could not use his attributes because mundines reflexes made him to evasive.

In summary

The 2012 version of green would have KOed mundine by mid rounds if not earlier. He would have been to sharp and to powerful and mundine would have been a bunny in the headlights after green managed to catch up with him. However if green cant return to that form then there is little point in fighting mundine again because the version of green that showed up to fight Bolonti wouldn't win a round.

scottearley123456 wrote:The past

The fight should have already happened. Green got schooled that night and like he said he had no excuses.
Mundine was the better business man at the time (has been stated by mundine) and dictated the terms with weight being one of them. Green had already moved to light heavy before the fight knowing that he was struggling to make super middle. Mundine knew green was struggling to make the weight and capitalized on it. Smart move. Would it have been a different out come ar a higher catchweight? Probably not but maybe.

Their careers

Since 2006 green has done a lot with his career mundine has not. Green has improved a lot and mundine has slid a little. Thats what makes the rematch interesting. Once on parr green is now VASTLY more popular. He holds the cards as far as dictating the fight but he wants it more than mundine therefore he gives up his hand and will loose on the negotiations. If green fights under light heavy then he is a fool and deserves to loose.

The weight/wait

Green cannot and should not make any weight under light heavy. Mundine is FAR from naturally suited to his current fighting weight. Does anyone know his walk around weight? Mundine has many times struggled to make his fight weight though less documented recently. This also suggests that he should move up in weight. My guess is that he drops around 7 kilos to weigh in. If this true the he doesn't have to gain that much more weight to fight green. Gaining weight at both fighters advanced age is far more natural and healthy than loosing muscle mass. Green needs to come down a few kilos mundine needs to come up a few. The natural weight difference really isn't that far apart and it should be easier and healthier for mundine to come up than green to go down. Advantage mundine.

The outcome

At greens more natural weight he has the opportunity to use his power both punching and wrestling. He may be able bully the hard to hit mundine and wear him down. Green has improved a lot skill wise since 2006. He uses the ring better and has improved his footwork greatly. His shots are much more accurate especially his jab. He now has a lot more patience and generally a higher ring IQ than before.
Mundine has not really shown anything new other than his weight loss. If anything his reflexes have slowed and that was one of the crucial factors in their first meeting. Green could not use his attributes because mundines reflexes made him to evasive.

In summary

The 2012 version of green would have KOed mundine by mid rounds if not earlier. He would have been to sharp and to powerful and mundine would have been a bunny in the headlights after green managed to catch up with him. However if green cant return to that form then there is little point in fighting mundine again because the version of green that showed up to fight Bolonti wouldn't win a round.

You are surely taking the piss!

I believe this fight will happen. Mundine walks around as a natural middleweight. I also think they are already in talks to have this fight mid next year. I think it will be at light heavyweight, and it will be both their swansongs! Mundine will wiped the floor with Green again. 2006 was the best Green has EVER been, and he got whipped. Pretty punches, hold, is pretty much Greens game plan now. He'll find it hard to do this when Mundine is boxing his ears off AGAIN! With all due respect, Green is a great boxer that works very hard. But the way he, and his imbecilic fans have handled themselves since 2006, is nothing short of disgraceful!

Lairdy wrote:I believe this fight will happen. Mundine walks around as a natural middleweight. I also think they are already in talks to have this fight mid next year. I think it will be at light heavyweight, and it will be both their swansongs! Mundine will wiped the floor with Green again. 2006 was the best Green has EVER been, and he got whipped. Pretty punches, hold, is pretty much Greens game plan now. He'll find it hard to do this when Mundine is boxing his ears off AGAIN! With all due respect, Green is a great boxer that works very hard. But the way he, and his imbecilic fans have handled themselves since 2006, is nothing short of disgraceful!

You say Mundine walks around at middle but Green probably walks around about 86kgs. Massive difference there. Not saying it won't happen, but it really shouldn't as they are too far apart in weight. I know money talks but neither of them should need that either. if they do fight the loser will use the weight as an excuse as Green has for the last 9 years.

scottearley123456 wrote:The past

The fight should have already happened. Green got schooled that night and like he said he had no excuses.
Mundine was the better business man at the time (has been stated by mundine) and dictated the terms with weight being one of them. Green had already moved to light heavy before the fight knowing that he was struggling to make super middle. Mundine knew green was struggling to make the weight and capitalized on it. Smart move. Would it have been a different out come ar a higher catchweight? Probably not but maybe.

Their careers

Since 2006 green has done a lot with his career mundine has not. Green has improved a lot and mundine has slid a little. Thats what makes the rematch interesting. Once on parr green is now VASTLY more popular. He holds the cards as far as dictating the fight but he wants it more than mundine therefore he gives up his hand and will loose on the negotiations. If green fights under light heavy then he is a fool and deserves to loose.

The weight/wait

Green cannot and should not make any weight under light heavy. Mundine is FAR from naturally suited to his current fighting weight. Does anyone know his walk around weight? Mundine has many times struggled to make his fight weight though less documented recently. This also suggests that he should move up in weight. My guess is that he drops around 7 kilos to weigh in. If this true the he doesn't have to gain that much more weight to fight green. Gaining weight at both fighters advanced age is far more natural and healthy than loosing muscle mass. Green needs to come down a few kilos mundine needs to come up a few. The natural weight difference really isn't that far apart and it should be easier and healthier for mundine to come up than green to go down. Advantage mundine.

The outcome

At greens more natural weight he has the opportunity to use his power both punching and wrestling. He may be able bully the hard to hit mundine and wear him down. Green has improved a lot skill wise since 2006. He uses the ring better and has improved his footwork greatly. His shots are much more accurate especially his jab. He now has a lot more patience and generally a higher ring IQ than before.
Mundine has not really shown anything new other than his weight loss. If anything his reflexes have slowed and that was one of the crucial factors in their first meeting. Green could not use his attributes because mundines reflexes made him to eva
In summary

The 2012 version of green would have KOed mundine by mid rounds if not earlier. He would have been to sharp and to powerful and mundine would have been a bunny in the headlights after green managed to catch up with him. However if green cant return to that form then there is little point in fighting mundine again because the version of green that showed up to fight Bolonti wouldn't win a round.

You must be a Green fan.........Me I'm a boxing fan you know the game that separate's the big boy's from the little boy's so some-one hasn't
got a BIG advantage in SIZE then that way god dam cruiserweights don't fight fu..ing men who fight at 11 stone its called FIGHTING WEIGHT YOU EVER HEAR OF THAT what the hell has Mundine walking around weight got to do with the price of eggs f.ck all that's what.... so you try and justify in that way is plain stupid whatever Mundine and just about evey fighter on planet earth walk around weighing is not their fighting weight
ps...............I was a fan before Mundine and Green came along I will be a fan when their gone its BOXING NOT OPEN SLATHER GO FIGHT KIMBO SLICE IN SOME-ONE BACK YARD THEN FIGHT THE BEST FLYWEIGHT THAT YOU CAN FIND THAT'LL SELL ONLY IN AUSTRALIA

scottearley123456 wrote:The past

The fight should have already happened. Green got schooled that night and like he said he had no excuses.
Mundine was the better business man at the time (has been stated by mundine) and dictated the terms with weight being one of them. Green had already moved to light heavy before the fight knowing that he was struggling to make super middle. Mundine knew green was struggling to make the weight and capitalized on it. Smart move. Would it have been a different out come ar a higher catchweight? Probably not but maybe.

Their careers

Since 2006 green has done a lot with his career mundine has not. Green has improved a lot and mundine has slid a little. Thats what makes the rematch interesting. Once on parr green is now VASTLY more popular. He holds the cards as far as dictating the fight but he wants it more than mundine therefore he gives up his hand and will loose on the negotiations. If green fights under light heavy then he is a fool and deserves to loose.

The weight/wait

Green cannot and should not make any weight under light heavy. Mundine is FAR from naturally suited to his current fighting weight. Does anyone know his walk around weight? Mundine has many times struggled to make his fight weight though less documented recently. This also suggests that he should move up in weight. My guess is that he drops around 7 kilos to weigh in. If this true the he doesn't have to gain that much more weight to fight green. Gaining weight at both fighters advanced age is far more natural and healthy than loosing muscle mass. Green needs to come down a few kilos mundine needs to come up a few. The natural weight difference really isn't that far apart and it should be easier and healthier for mundine to come up than green to go down. Advantage mundine.

The outcome

At greens more natural weight he has the opportunity to use his power both punching and wrestling. He may be able bully the hard to hit mundine and wear him down. Green has improved a lot skill wise since 2006. He uses the ring better and has improved his footwork greatly. His shots are much more accurate especially his jab. He now has a lot more patience and generally a higher ring IQ than before.
Mundine has not really shown anything new other than his weight loss. If anything his reflexes have slowed and that was one of the crucial factors in their first meeting. Green could not use his attributes because mundines reflexes made him to evasive.

In summary

The 2012 version of green would have KOed mundine by mid rounds if not earlier. He would have been to sharp and to powerful and mundine would have been a bunny in the headlights after green managed to catch up with him. However if green cant return to that form then there is little point in fighting mundine again because the version of green that showed up to fight Bolonti wouldn't win a round.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MI1nly-els

'' Weight beautiful''. 171lbs is closer to SMW than LHW.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

scottearley123456 wrote:The past

The fight should have already happened. Green got schooled that night and like he said he had no excuses.
Mundine was the better business man at the time (has been stated by mundine) and dictated the terms with weight being one of them. Green had already moved to light heavy before the fight knowing that he was struggling to make super middle. Mundine knew green was struggling to make the weight and capitalized on it. Smart move. Would it have been a different out come ar a higher catchweight? Probably not but maybe.

Their careers

Since 2006 green has done a lot with his career mundine has not. Green has improved a lot and mundine has slid a little. Thats what makes the rematch interesting. Once on parr green is now VASTLY more popular. He holds the cards as far as dictating the fight but he wants it more than mundine therefore he gives up his hand and will loose on the negotiations. If green fights under light heavy then he is a fool and deserves to loose.

The weight/wait

Green cannot and should not make any weight under light heavy. Mundine is FAR from naturally suited to his current fighting weight. Does anyone know his walk around weight? Mundine has many times struggled to make his fight weight though less documented recently. This also suggests that he should move up in weight. My guess is that he drops around 7 kilos to weigh in. If this true the he doesn't have to gain that much more weight to fight green. Gaining weight at both fighters advanced age is far more natural and healthy than loosing muscle mass. Green needs to come down a few kilos mundine needs to come up a few. The natural weight difference really isn't that far apart and it should be easier and healthier for mundine to come up than green to go down. Advantage mundine.

The outcome

At greens more natural weight he has the opportunity to use his power both punching and wrestling. He may be able bully the hard to hit mundine and wear him down. Green has improved a lot skill wise since 2006. He uses the ring better and has improved his footwork greatly. His shots are much more accurate especially his jab. He now has a lot more patience and generally a higher ring IQ than before.
Mundine has not really shown anything new other than his weight loss. If anything his reflexes have slowed and that was one of the crucial factors in their first meeting. Green could not use his attributes because mundines reflexes made him to eva
In summary

The 2012 version of green would have KOed mundine by mid rounds if not earlier. He would have been to sharp and to powerful and mundine would have been a bunny in the headlights after green managed to catch up with him. However if green cant return to that form then there is little point in fighting mundine again because the version of green that showed up to fight Bolonti wouldn't win a round.

You must be a Green fan.........Me I'm a boxing fan you know the game that separate's the big boy's from the little boy's so some-one hasn't
got a BIG advantage in SIZE then that way god dam cruiserweights don't fight fu..ing men who fight at 11 stone its called FIGHTING WEIGHT YOU EVER HEAR OF THAT what the hell has Mundine walking around weight got to do with the price of eggs f.ck all that's what.... so you try and justify in that way is plain stupid whatever Mundine and just about evey fighter on planet earth walk around weighing is not their fighting weight
ps...............I was a fan before Mundine and Green came along I will be a fan when their gone its BOXING NOT OPEN SLATHER GO FIGHT KIMBO SLICE IN SOME-ONE BACK YARD THEN FIGHT THE BEST FLYWEIGHT THAT YOU CAN FIND THAT'LL SELL ONLY IN AUSTRALIA

Well actually ive fought a bit myself and i know what weights mean just as well if not better than most on here. Like yourself im a boxing fan but im also a fan of both fighters. Green fights at his walk around weight of 86ish kilos. He can come down to 82 mundine walks around probably 75kgs he can come up so what? Have you ever moved up and down weight classes to fight someone? I have. Walk around weight matters. Fighters that size are used to dropping 7kgs off their normal weight to fight. Mundine wont have to drop. All he has to do is train and go back to a similar weight he has been before.
Your making a much bigger thing of this weight issue that it actually is. If they both have prep time then i cant see why its an issue. Its not like they are fighting in 4 months time

the weight thing is rubbish.

it is a fake excuse by the haters as usual to pick on the big bad danny green for being a bully, lol.

green is far too small at cruiser and mundine is anorexic at light middle.

Mundine could easily go up in weight but I'm not sure Green could get down to a common weight but still keep his normal power..

buster007 wrote:the weight thing is rubbish.

it is a fake excuse by the haters as usual to pick on the big bad danny green for being a bully, lol.

green is far too small at cruiser and mundine is anorexic at light middle.

Can you give "haters" shite a miss. Fight fans either like or dislike a boxer

You're saying people are making too much of the weight issue. One fights at junior middle 69.85kg and Green would now struggle to make light heavy79.38kgs. Whether Mundine can come up or not is not the issue. Both campaigning at different weights. I'm not saying it won't happen but we've heard the weight excuse for the last 9 years and the loser will use it again.

Can you give "haters" shite a miss. Fight fans either like or dislike a boxer?

it is very possible for people to hate boxers. just like people hate footy teams and many, many other things.

Ok The weight meens nothing...............Mundine can start challenging Dib/Brunker/Tomlinson watch out Fred Mundraby Lenny Zappa coming for you

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Ok The weight meens nothing...............Mundine can start challenging Dib/Brunker/Tomlinson watch out Fred Mundraby Lenny Zappa coming for you

Mundine vs Darchynian imagine what would happen if Mundine started calling out Vic.

I think the weight means something guys.

Ok The weight meens nothing?

don't be a drama queen!

nobody said it means nothing at all.