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Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 04 Sep 2015, 22:29
by Andrew Kearney
Povetkin is Wilder's mandatory challenger and the WBC have mandated Wilder must fulfill his mandatory duty next. Povetkin will likely win the purse bid so in all probability the fight will occur in Russia.

Wilder has fought very poor opposition thus far in his career (quite literally his last defense - Eric Molina wasn't even rated as a top-40 contender by boxrec) and it is conceivable he drops the belt instead of taking the fight.

Will Wilder vacate?

I say yes.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 01:43
by Nightmare Roy
I say no, he'll get paid some nice step aside money for the next year or two.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 02:14
by Chepppaaa
povetkin is easy work for wilder

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 03:53
by bigjack
Chepppaaa wrote:povetkin is easy work for wilder
Really ? i have a feeling Povetkin will be much to strong and ambitious for Wilder,he's also on very good form at the moment.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 05:19
by Andrew
Nightmare Roy wrote:I say no, he'll get paid some nice step aside money for the next year or two.
No chance Povetkin takes step aside money.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 09:00
by Nightmare Roy
Naandrew wrote:
Nightmare Roy wrote:I say no, he'll get paid some nice step aside money for the next year or two.
No chance Povetkin takes step aside money.
It depends how much, Lewis got millions not to fight Tyson, it can be smart business in the long run.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 09:03
by HyacinthusTurnipseed
I lean marginally towards "yes", given the Haymon team's action re. Peter Quillin and their undoubtably cautious approach to matchmaking for Wilder so far. Perhaps Deontay will put his foot down and insist they take the fight - I don't doubt that he genuinely believes in himself at least.

It's funny, it wasn't that long ago (around 2010-2013) when we were wondering whether Povetkin was going to step up and take a meaningful fight at some point. Maybe after Wilder loses we'll start to see the better from him as well.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 10:52
by Tony1244
By the time, the WBC mandates the Povetkin fight, Wilder will have signed to fight Wlad.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 11:36
by Chepppaaa
bigjack wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:povetkin is easy work for wilder
Really ? i have a feeling Povetkin will be much to strong and ambitious for Wilder,he's also on very good form at the moment.
not along ago he was struggling against a cruiserweight and now all of the sudden povetkin is a dangerzone for a strong tall powerpuncher like wilder, no way.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 13:08
by rio
If he does he officially becomes one of boxings biggest jokes, the definition of a manufactured/paper champion who runs and hides behind his promoter when his 1st legitimate challenge comes up. If this happens it will be in Russia due to there being only 1 winner in purse bids. This will make or break Wilder.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 14:40
by Yes We Can
Povetkin doesn't bring enough reward to make this worthwile to Wilder, Although as a fan it's a great fight between the number 2/3/4 ish in the division.

Wilder will lobby for unification over this fight with Wlad is my guess.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 15:14
by man
i don't think so. wilder is obviously not a brave fighter,
but povetkin on the other hand is physically not at par
and age wise over the top. wilder takes the fight if he
has to.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 15:15
by crusader
How much does Povetkin's age matter when he's in the best form of his career?

Unless Wilder took a fight with the Wlad-Fury winner him swerving this fight would yet again make it look like people on his side are seriously worried about how he'll do against top opposition.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 17:15
by Andrew Kearney
You guys are missing the point.

Povetkin is his ***mandatory*** challenger, this means Wilder ***must*** defend against Povetkin or vacate the title, those are his only two options. Povetkin has been the mandatory for over one year, and Wilder has been granted 2 voluntary defenses (1 against Molina, 1 more against Duhaupus, but the WBC have said thats it, now he must fulfill the mandatory or be stripped of the title).

Wilder must make the fight next, or he loses the title that simple.

It has been speculated that Povetkin's business partner, Ryabinsky is prepared to submit a huge bid in order to secure the fight in Russia. In excess of 20 Million $ which is certainly more than Wilder's team can offer up.

The question is if Wilder will take the fight or give up his title?

I think Wilder will drop the belt.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 17:57
by greg
Andrew Kearney wrote:You guys are missing the point.

Povetkin is his ***mandatory*** challenger, this means Wilder ***must*** defend against Povetkin or vacate the title, those are his only two options. Povetkin has been the mandatory for over one year, and Wilder has been granted 2 voluntary defenses (1 against Molina, 1 more against Duhaupus, but the WBC have said thats it, now he must fulfill the mandatory or be stripped of the title).

Wilder must make the fight next, or he loses the title that simple.

It has been speculated that Povetkin's business partner, Ryabinsky is prepared to submit a huge bid in order to secure the fight in Russia. In excess of 20 Million $ which is certainly more than Wilder's team can offer up.

The question is if Wilder will take the fight or give up his title?

I think Wilder will drop the belt.
.. any credible sources to confirm this 20 million deal?

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 18:00
by punchoutsb
Chepppaaa wrote:
bigjack wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:povetkin is easy work for wilder
Really ? i have a feeling Povetkin will be much to strong and ambitious for Wilder,he's also on very good form at the moment.
not along ago he was struggling against a cruiserweight and now all of the sudden povetkin is a dangerzone for a strong tall powerpuncher like wilder, no way.
That same cruiserweight would beat Wilder though, so you're not making a very good argument.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 18:15
by bigjack
Chepppaaa wrote:
bigjack wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:povetkin is easy work for wilder
Really ? i have a feeling Povetkin will be much to strong and ambitious for Wilder,he's also on very good form at the moment.
not along ago he was struggling against a cruiserweight and now all of the sudden povetkin is a dangerzone for a strong tall powerpuncher like wilder, no way.

He'll have wilder doing the funky chicken again lol

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 05 Sep 2015, 19:48
by Cutman Scabbers
No, because Duhaupas will beat him

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 07 Sep 2015, 11:05
by pound per pound
Andrew Kearney wrote:You guys are missing the point.

Povetkin is his ***mandatory*** challenger, this means Wilder ***must*** defend against Povetkin or vacate the title, those are his only two options. Povetkin has been the mandatory for over one year, and Wilder has been granted 2 voluntary defenses (1 against Molina, 1 more against Duhaupus, but the WBC have said thats it, now he must fulfill the mandatory or be stripped of the title).

Wilder must make the fight next, or he loses the title that simple.

It has been speculated that Povetkin's business partner, Ryabinsky is prepared to submit a huge bid in order to secure the fight in Russia. In excess of 20 Million $ which is certainly more than Wilder's team can offer up.

The question is if Wilder will take the fight or give up his title?

I think Wilder will drop the belt.
If Wilder's management team can't make a match with Wlad and cash out, Wilder will have to fight Povetkin.

If Wilder drops a belt without securing a match with Wlad, he's dead in the water.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 07 Sep 2015, 11:20
by Batley18
Wilder has been a disgrace since winning that title. Fought bums to get a shot, fought one of the worst World champs to win the belt, and then went straight back to his staple diet --> bums :shame:

There was a lot of excitement when he won that title, but I have never been a huge fan I must admit. I hope he does fight Povetkin, and I hope he gets sparked.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 07 Sep 2015, 11:26
by joe strong
Andrew Kearney wrote:You guys are missing the point.

Povetkin is his ***mandatory*** challenger, this means Wilder ***must*** defend against Povetkin or vacate the title, those are his only two options. Povetkin has been the mandatory for over one year, and Wilder has been granted 2 voluntary defenses (1 against Molina, 1 more against Duhaupus, but the WBC have said thats it, now he must fulfill the mandatory or be stripped of the title).

Wilder must make the fight next, or he loses the title that simple.

It has been speculated that Povetkin's business partner, Ryabinsky is prepared to submit a huge bid in order to secure the fight in Russia. In excess of 20 Million $ which is certainly more than Wilder's team can offer up.

The question is if Wilder will take the fight or give up his title?

I think Wilder will drop the belt.
Why would he give up the title? he could be crying if Povetkin gets hurt or loses to Wach. Heck he will be crying if he loses to Duhaupas. A 8 digit payday out the door if the fight doesn't happen. If you think there is no way Wilder could lose to duhaupas just watch the tommy Morrison/Michael bentt fight. Morrison wanted a quick payday before his 6 million purse fight against Riddick bowe... look how that turned out. Every fight is a risk because you could get injured or lose for whatever reason.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 07 Sep 2015, 11:31
by joe strong
greg wrote:
Andrew Kearney wrote:You guys are missing the point.

Povetkin is his ***mandatory*** challenger, this means Wilder ***must*** defend against Povetkin or vacate the title, those are his only two options. Povetkin has been the mandatory for over one year, and Wilder has been granted 2 voluntary defenses (1 against Molina, 1 more against Duhaupus, but the WBC have said thats it, now he must fulfill the mandatory or be stripped of the title).

Wilder must make the fight next, or he loses the title that simple.

It has been speculated that Povetkin's business partner, Ryabinsky is prepared to submit a huge bid in order to secure the fight in Russia. In excess of 20 Million $ which is certainly more than Wilder's team can offer up.

The question is if Wilder will take the fight or give up his title?

I think Wilder will drop the belt.
.. any credible sources to confirm this 20 million deal?
No proof but that Russian guy has already said multiple times he will put up huge money & he is not even against holding the fight in the states. 75/25 split for the champion. I'm sure Wilder will be walking out with at least 10 million if the fight happens.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 07 Sep 2015, 11:37
by Badhusker
Why would Wilder do something as stupid as that? Odds will be close in that fight, and to me a toss up. Wilder can win easy if he fights smart. Huck almost beat him.

The only way he can avoid the mandatory and keep the belt is to take the winner of fury vs Wlad.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 09 Sep 2015, 15:12
by asdfjkl
For 10M+ I'll gladly get KO by Povetkin.

I expect the fight to start, Wilder trying to box for one or two round as hard as he can and then fake an injury if he isn't KO himself already.


Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Duhaupas actually wins.
I mean come on, Duhaupas only fought 3 rank 20-50 fighters and lost 2 of those.
Wilder only fought 3 top 100 fights and won all of them with quite a bit of trouble a 6ft guy, a teacher and Malik Scott, who actually seems to have faked his own KO and that's not even a joke.
He hasn't even hitted at all in the first 1,5 minit of the entire fight.
I've seen this fight and his "KO" and he had Malik had his arm down breaking his fall while his eyes followed Wilder during the fall, in other words, he wasn't KO at that moment. Even stronger, he hit didn't even hit his head, it flew past him at the right of his head.
The whole crowd is booing both of them because Malik didn't even try to fight at all.
Then he layed on the ground, following Wilder with his eyes, once again in other words he wasn't KO. Then he looked behind him at the crowd, then he acted like he was trying to stand up twice then falling in the refs arms and then the fight was over?
I mean really? Normally when such a thing happends the losing guy is trying to leave the ring as fast as possible beïng completely embaressed. But no, he allmost cheered Wilder!
And after the fight Wilder calls him a good friend?!


I think Duhaupas got a 30% winning chance actually. Yes, Wilder got the odds, but he certainly hasn't won yet.

Re: Will Deontay Wilder vacate his WBC title to avoid fighting Povetkin?

Posted: 09 Sep 2015, 15:17
by asdfjkl
Badhusker wrote:Why would Wilder do something as stupid as that? Odds will be close in that fight, and to me a toss up. Wilder can win easy if he fights smart. Huck almost beat him.

The only way he can avoid the mandatory and keep the belt is to take the winner of fury vs Wlad.
That was many many years ago, Povetkin didn't take the fight seriously and even trained hard just before the fight.
During the fight Huck only defended, defended and defended. After 9 rounds Povetkin became very very very very tired and was about to lose the same way as Klitschko did twice. He was hitting the wall.
Somehow Povetkin became the only boxer I know that actually won while hitting the wall.

Hitting the wall is one of the most crazy feelings you can get:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbQh2l01Bhw
You can think bright, you're not out of breath, but you just have like 0 strength in your body, no matter how muscled you are.
And I really do mean, 0 strength, you'll even struggle to simply keep on standing, but as soon as you eated something and wait for like 15 minits you're allright again.