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Report: Floyd Mayweather received banned IV fluids before Pacquiao fight

http://www.si.com/boxing/2015/09/09/flo ... =si_social


Floyd Mayweather Took Banned IV Prior to Manny Pacquiao Fight

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2563 ... uiao-fight

It amazes me how many advantages Floyd is given that other boxers would be crucified for, so all the hype about drug testing and playing by the rules and here he is breaking them, what a joke

He's not the joke.

USADA is the joke.
They gave him an exemption afterwards.

This could be trivial, it could lead to something bigger.
If it's the latter I hope USADA gets taken down in the process.

If they were serious they would test via hair, everything shows up. The Nevada commission would have to have known as well, no one else gets away with crap like this, how does floyd

Pureist wrote:If they were serious they would test via hair, everything shows up. The Nevada commission would have to have known as well, no one else gets away with crap like this, how does floyd

What do you mean how does he get away with it? It doesn't surprise me in the least. He has always gotten away with everything. The refs never take points away for his excessive use of pushing off with his elbows, or the constant holding. He was far too valuable to the casinos and hotels. Did you expect them to kill their golden goose?

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=13620171

Marcellus Wiley (EX-NFL) tells story about teammate who would roid up then flush it out with "IV VITAMINS".

A few things...

1) According to WADA rules, Floyd cheated. Fortunately for him, USADA and the NSAC were in change

2) You would think that as many folk who hate Floyd, some lab guy would have leaked verifiable news about him

It's never fortunate for anybody else. That decision would have been deemed a no contest for anyone else, but as all you floyd fan club say, he doesn't get treated any different, the American government ripped Fifa a new one but boxing is OK, what a joke

His TE ratio was 0.8. I cried with laughter at that. Brilliant. That proves he's innocent. It must do.

Well well well....


Here's what I have to say about this:

1. It's been rumoured plenty that Floyd has been failing tests but the USADA are on his payroll. This seems like it's the case here. I broke the rules but look the other way, $$ talks.

2. So Floyd needs IV's to rehydrate. I've been telling you groupies for years he's not some little blown up 140lber anymore and hasn't been for a long time. He couldn't make 144 for Marquez YEARS ago. He's walking around high 160's easy and clearly draining now to hit his 147. The pr he pulls round his weight is insane to the point some of you clowns think he's weighing the same or even LESS in the ring the guy is rehydrating with drips ffs.

Ricky_ wrote:Well well well....


Here's what I have to say about this:

1. It's been rumoured plenty that Floyd has been failing tests but the USADA are on his payroll. This seems like it's the case here. I broke the rules but look the other way, $$ talks.

2. So Floyd needs IV's to rehydrate. I've been telling you groupies for years he's not some little blown up 140lber anymore and hasn't been for a long time. He couldn't make 144 for Marquez YEARS ago. He's walking around high 160's easy and clearly draining now to hit his 147. The pr he pulls round his weight is insane to the point some of you clowns think he's weighing the same or even LESS in the ring the guy is rehydrating with drips ffs.

Always makes me laugh too.

Is he rehydrating or is he masking? Anyway, who is in charge of deciding what's right and wrong here? Is it all down to the contract between the two men or does one or more of these various organisations and commissions have teeth and preparedness to use them?

It was the same with Roid Jones. It'll always be the same for whoever makes the most money.

IVgate- Whether this was done to flush PED's in his system or not, the bottom line is that it was illegal and done by Floyd with full understanding that it was illegal. Floyd purposely broke the rules to gain an unfair advantage.

The relationship between Floyd Mayweather Jr and the USADA has to now be called into question. He already gets every home field advantage inside the ring being able to pick the referee, judges, etc, does he also have that same type of advantage when it comes to drug testing? I find it funny how Floyd has been such a crusader for the USADA over the years now. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Floyd and the USADA entered into an agreement years ago in which Floyd would push the USADA's legitimacy through the sport and become and advocate for the company's usage as long as he was given clean tests and other impunities.

This is the biggest issue at hand IMO. Almost 40 years old and this guy is still fighting at this level? No wonder why Floyd was so outspoken about testing before fights. He found a way to make sure that he never gets caught taking PED's and is never fighting a boxer that is on PED's. Floyd owns every aspect of the game. It's disgusting.

Reminds me of Carl Lewis...who knew he couldn't get caught.

Just read the full article, very slimy and underhanded, explains why the first fight between them didn't eventuate, all came down to floyd could cheat the drug testing as he has here without any commission or pacquaio team being informed, disgraceful

Ezzard wrote:Reminds me of Carl Lewis...who knew he couldn't get caught.

Yes, read the book 'The dirtiest race in history' and it appears that Lewis, despite his big mouth, was far from clean himself, as you say, he just knew that he'd never be sanctioned for anything, because he was too big a star. Johnson was the fall guy, and I have some sympathy for him, because it looks to me, like absolutely everyone was taking hugely powerful anabolic steroids.

So Floyd has Moretti sitting filling out his scorecard for what, 6 fights in a row, including both the Maidana robbery & subsequent rematch.

He has the likes of Bayless as his man in the middle (previously Cortez) constantly breaking and warning the other guy for Floyd's persistant clinching with no threat of a point off for holding (Hatton, Maidana, Pacquaio), and turning a blind eye when he's punching on the break (Gatti, Ortiz), or bending the rules when he should have been DQ'd (Judah).

He has the Nevada state athletic commission getting on board when he complains about his opponents gloves.

Now it's confirmed he's got USADA on his payroll so he can cheat with impunity, from IV drips to injections in his hands, oh, and a gym full of drug cheats.

TBE

Usada have to follow wada for rulings, it's illegal under wada rules, testosterone was very low in earlier fights as well indicating masking agents or extremely poor health, wonder which category would floyd fall in to

Pac couldn't get Ibuprofen for his shoulder...

Can you imagine if this was the other way round?

Ricky_ wrote:So Floyd has Moretti sitting filling out his scorecard for what, 6 fights in a row, including both the Maidana robbery & subsequent rematch.

He has the likes of Bayless as his man in the middle (previously Cortez) constantly breaking and warning the other guy for Floyd's persistant clinching with no threat of a point off for holding (Hatton, Maidana, Pacquaio), and turning a blind eye when he's punching on the break (Gatti, Ortiz), or bending the rules when he should have been DQ'd (Judah).

He has the Nevada state athletic commission getting on board when he complains about his opponents gloves.

Now it's confirmed he's got USADA on his payroll so he can cheat with impunity, from IV drips to injections in his hands, oh, and a gym full of drug cheats.

TBE

WHERE IS KBB? Come out, come out wherever you are!!!!!!! He probably called in sick to work today and right now he's slowly taking down his assortment of Floyd photos over his bed, one thumbtack at a time with a slow running tear streaming down his face while listening to "Everybody Hurts" by REM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZRCIrTgQc

KBB, don't do anything stupid man. You have a lot to live for. Think about your family.

Yes, it looks damned shady.

Yes, it looks like not only Floyd, but USADA and NSAC have some 'splainin' to do.

But, before we go full retard with the PED accusations, let's keep in mind the facts.

1) 30 days out, Floyd was 150.5 lbs. So yeah, maybe he is getting up there in age and no longer makes 147 as easily as he used to...but this doesn't mean he is a natural middleweight, and folks sound ridiculous suggesting so.

2) He is said to have taken about 750 ml total in the 24 hours before the fight. This is not a huge amount of fluid. It is about 25 ounces. Again, it blows any speculation of Floyd being this middleweight desperate to shred weight out of the water.

3) Saline solutions can imdeed be used to mask steroids and other PEDs. Problem is, this method of masking is only effective immediately before a PED screening. So, if you were tested for PEDs before you did the IV and after you did the IV- as Mayweather was for both procedures- then using Saline to mask anything would be useless.

So go ahead and call Mayweather a cheater if you like, I won't blame you. And I agree it looks damned fishy. But if we are believing part of what is being reported we must believe it all.

And if everything is true, there is not much chance Mayweather had any unfair advantage in the fight.

koolkc107 wrote:Yes, it looks damned shady.

Yes, it looks like not only Floyd, but USADA and NSAC have some 'splainin' to do.

But, before we go full retard with the PED accusations, let's keep in mind the facts.

1) 30 days out, Floyd was 150.5 lbs. So yeah, maybe he is getting up there in age and no longer makes 147 as easily as he used to...but this doesn't mean he is a natural middleweight, and folks sound ridiculous suggesting so.

2) He is said to have taken about 750 ml total in the 24 hours before the fight. This is not a huge amount of fluid. It is about 25 ounces. Again, it blows any speculation of Floyd being this middleweight desperate to shred weight out of the water.

3) Saline solutions can imdeed be used to mask steroids and other PEDs. Problem is, this method of masking is only effective immediately before a PED screening. So, if you were tested for PEDs before you did the IV and after you did the IV- as Mayweather was for both procedures- then using Saline to mask anything would be useless.

So go ahead and call Mayweather a cheater if you like, I won't blame you. And I agree it looks damned fishy. But if we are believing part of what is being reported we must believe it all.

And if everything is true, there is not much chance Mayweather had any unfair advantage in the fight.

Thankyou, a level headed post for a change (not directed at your) - there are a lot of people just waiting to damn Floyd and write off his entire career over a single reported incident which does not actually confirmed any kind of PED use, just that he had an IV drip which should have been authorised.

So you're saying Saline is used to flush out the bloodstream or rather dilute it prior to a test. 750 ml is less than a litre, so can't see how that would achieve much. 750 ml is less than a small bottle of water - that's not an amount you would use to rehydrate due to weight cutting.

If Floyd was 150.5 30 days out, then NO WAY is he struggling to make weight - there's lots of middleweights out there who are way north of that with 30 days to go.