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interesting/unusual records

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 14:36
by littlepug
So I spend a fair bit of time trawling through boxers records so I thought I would post any unusual findings on here, so earlier I came across a Mexican guy called Fernando Ramos( can't post a link cos I'm not tech savvy ) whose record was 2-9, in compiling that record he fought troy Dorsey, Eddie Rangel, Maurizio stecca, Jesse Benavides, Tracy Patterson, Giovanni parisi, Orlando canizales and Darryl Tyson, and amazingly he was also a two weight world title challenger fighting for WBO superbantam and featherweight world crowns ! feel free to add your own findings.

Re: interesting/unusual records

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 14:52
by littlepug
Or what about this guy, Nicaraguan Omar Anaya who was went 2-1, his 2nd fight was a 4th round ko and 1st loss for Alexis Arguello !

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Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 15:51
by littlepug
Quite liked this fella 70s superbantam from Korea called Chung park record was 1-11-3 besides south Korea he boxed in Japan, Mexico and several times in Hawaii, his début was a 10 round points loss to a guy who was 12-1-1, and he had the pleasure of taking a then 61-1-1 Ruben Olivares into the 6th.

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Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 15:53
by Controversial
It's worth bearing in mind the disclaimer at the bottom of each fighters record "data may be incomplete/inaccurate"

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Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 16:23
by littlepug
Controversial wrote:It's worth bearing in mind the disclaimer at the bottom of each fighters record "data may be incomplete/inaccurate"
Noted but its more fun to ignore that fact :TU:

Re: interesting/unusual records

Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 16:29
by littlepug
Reggie Strickland American mid west clubfighter, between 87 and 2005 he compiled a 66-276-17 record fighting exclusively in the mid west against pretty modest opposition, but still that's some serious mileage in the modern era

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Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 16:49
by littlepug
Toughest début award goes to Hasim Razzaq who kicked off his career against 20-0 mike McCallum ! he ended up 0-4

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Posted: 15 Sep 2015, 05:32
by Boxing Prospect
Hyun Mi Choi, who won a world title in her debut?

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Posted: 15 Sep 2015, 09:36
by littlepug
Boxing Prospect wrote:Hyun Mi Choi, who won a world title in her debut?
not many can say that, wonder what her background was ?

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Posted: 15 Sep 2015, 12:44
by Boxing Prospect
littlepug wrote:
Boxing Prospect wrote:Hyun Mi Choi, who won a world title in her debut?
not many can say that, wonder what her background was ?
Her background is genuinely awesome...and a feel good story in a time of a "refugee crisis". She was spotted by officials in North Korea because as a kid she was bigger than the other girls. The plan was to take her to the Beijing Olympics and claim one of the first female boxing gold medals. The plan of the North Korean's failed because 1-Female boxing didn't appears at the 2008 Games (as was being speculated at the time) and 2-her family legged it through half of Asia to get to South Korea.

It was in South Korea that she continued to box as an amateur before turning pro with dodgy management and claimed a world title in her debut. Since then she has become a 2-weight champion and a great tale of what a refugee can be, despite being known as the rather unflattering "Defector Girl Boxer"

Re: interesting/unusual records

Posted: 15 Sep 2015, 12:47
by littlepug
love unearthing little tales like this :TU:

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Posted: 15 Sep 2015, 16:47
by Rexob
Pete Rademacher who fought world champion Floyd Patterson in his debut for the world title!? :oo

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Posted: 15 Sep 2015, 17:19
by littlepug
Dave Jaco was tough journeyman heavy in a good era, he went 24-25-1 and won his first 12 before running into the likes of Carl Williams, Tommy Morrison, bert cooper, Pierre Coetzer, Tony tucker, Tyson, buster Douglas, mike weaver, Alex Stewart, Oliver mcall, Gary mason and George foreman, although he did ko an unbeaten razor Ruddock in Canada. I think its safe to say they don't make em like that anymore !

Re: interesting/unusual records

Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 10:49
by littlepug
chris eubanks brother peter went 14-24 but has the honourable distinction of beating barry mcguigan and also joe frazier jnr ( yes son of ), in fact he had quite a habit of handing prospects their 1st loss.

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Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 10:54
by Boxing Prospect
Current fighter Knockout CP Freshmart has had every one of his fights for a title of some kind (as has Vasyl Lomachenko)

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Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 10:59
by palooka
Keep em coming :TU: well done

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Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 11:16
by littlepug
aussie flyweight who went 8-6 was a 4 weight national champ after 5 fights, he went on to challenge unsuccesfuly for world strawweight title.

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Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 11:17
by littlepug
littlepug wrote:aussie flyweight who went 8-6 was a 4 weight national champ after 5 fights, he went on to challenge unsuccesfuly for world strawweight title.
ha ha his name was jack russell

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Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 11:32
by Boxing Prospect
Probably not unique but Yamato Uchinono began his career with a remarkable 1-1-5 record, with all 5 draws being majority decisions draws (he's now 6-3-5, 4, and ranked #11 by the JBC at Light Flyweight)

Austrian dare devil Felix Baumgartner was an unbeaten professional boxing holding a 1-0 (1) record!

Arturo Mayan (0-1) is thought to have had the shortest career of any world title challenger. Just 90 seconds!

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Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 11:46
by littlepug
Boxing Prospect wrote:Probably not unique but Yamato Uchinono began his career with a remarkable 1-1-5 record, with all 5 draws being majority decisions draws (he's now 6-3-5, 4, and ranked #11 by the JBC at Light Flyweight)

Austrian dare devil Felix Baumgartner was an unbeaten professional boxing holding a 1-0 (1) record!

Arturo Mayan (0-1) is thought to have had the shortest career of any world title challenger. Just 90 seconds!
good stuff mate :TU:

Re: interesting/unusual records

Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 16:05
by Bodyshot3
@littlepug...yup, there are some crazy, perplexing records out there that kind of make you think is that actually the same guy who did this against that opponent but then fell apart against that guy?

I was too young to really follow much of his early career...but the scouse heavyweight Noel Quarless is someone who I've looked at before and strikes me as having a record absolutely all over the shop. He had arep for either dumping someone into the press seats or ending up there himself.

He absolutely poleaxed some decent world class guys but then got cracked himself and ended up with a 19-12 ledger.

I'd love to know a bit more about Noel; he seems like a guy who had the talent but neither the management or right levels of application.

Re: interesting/unusual records

Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 16:49
by littlepug
Bodyshot3 wrote:@littlepug...yup, there are some crazy, perplexing records out there that kind of make you think is that actually the same guy who did this against that opponent but then fell apart against that guy?

I was too young to really follow much of his early career...but the scouse heavyweight Noel Quarless is someone who I've looked at before and strikes me as having a record absolutely all over the shop. He had arep for either dumping someone into the press seats or ending up there himself.

He absolutely poleaxed some decent world class guys but then got cracked himself and ended up with a 19-12 ledger.

I'd love to know a bit more about Noel; he seems like a guy who had the talent but neither the management or right levels of application.
Yes tough fighter was Quarless , check out john Westgarth who went 11-15 and upset Glenn mcrory and James oyebola but was beat by the likes of herbie hide and razor Ruddock :TU:

Re: interesting/unusual records

Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 16:51
by TheWigwam
littlepug wrote:So I spend a fair bit of time trawling through boxers records so I thought I would post any unusual findings on here, so earlier I came across a Mexican guy called Fernando Ramos( can't post a link cos I'm not tech savvy ) whose record was 2-9, in compiling that record he fought troy Dorsey, Eddie Rangel, Maurizio stecca, Jesse Benavides, Tracy Patterson, Giovanni parisi, Orlando canizales and Darryl Tyson, and amazingly he was also a two weight world title challenger fighting for WBO superbantam and featherweight world crowns ! feel free to add your own findings.
What an incredible record, how on Earth did he get the title shots though? :OhYes:

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Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 16:59
by littlepug
TheWigwam wrote:
littlepug wrote:So I spend a fair bit of time trawling through boxers records so I thought I would post any unusual findings on here, so earlier I came across a Mexican guy called Fernando Ramos( can't post a link cos I'm not tech savvy ) whose record was 2-9, in compiling that record he fought troy Dorsey, Eddie Rangel, Maurizio stecca, Jesse Benavides, Tracy Patterson, Giovanni parisi, Orlando canizales and Darryl Tyson, and amazingly he was also a two weight world title challenger fighting for WBO superbantam and featherweight world crowns ! feel free to add your own findings.
What an incredible record, how on Earth did he get the title shots though? :OhYes:
It was the early days of the WBO which made it possible

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Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 17:04
by littlepug
Mentioned this in another thread but bill sliney a London lightweight went 13-16 lost twice to Reggie kray but beat Ronnie !