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See Eubank Sr and Kugan Cassius having a beef on twitter.

Eubank not letting jr do a IFL interview because he's unprofessional because he swears.

Cassius seems in the right to me.

Think Sr is a bit eccentric but he kinda has a point, we seem to have lost all standards of profesionalism with these new modern media 'journalists'. I wouldn't have taken it as far as he has mind.

Kugan's response are a bit childish and screems of 'its my ball I'm taking it home' type stuff. Think he should remember its people like Eubank getting in the ring and slugging it out that allows him the nice career hes got.

I think they initially fell out over the infamous BJS video in which Saunders, in typically eloquent fashion, unleashed foul mouth tirade aimed at Eubank and even speculated that he and his brothers had been raped at boarding school.

Eubank Snr (and plenty of other people) were offended by the video and felt Kugan should never have uploaded it.

Their relationship has been frosty since then.

Interesting one. The IFL guys aren't always serious and I wouldn't consider journalists, people who watch their vids regularly are aware of this.

They've just been right place right time and got some sponsorship so fairplay to them I like their work a lot. However with the bad language it works both ways in terms of them and who they are interviewing.

Looked on twitter it seems to stem from a Tyson Fury interview. Those last three words literally means anything could be said and in fairness there is a language warning in the video title. Its not Kugan doing the swearing its the fighters, and we all know Fury says what he wants, when he wants and doesn't give a f**k what anyone thinks.

Its not like Kugan is working for the BBC however some of the stuff BJS has said in the past probably should have been edited out.

It's raw and uncut most of the time, which is the appeal I think, it's more real than the usual interviews you see? Keep it up I say, brilliant insight into what fighters are thinking and doing.

Eubank Jr stating in a public press conference that Ronnie was only there to "smear on vaseline" because he is the one that knows what to do in fights not the corner, is far far more rude and disrespectful than dropping an F-bomb.

G0mez wrote:Eubank Jr stating in a public press conference that Ronnie was only there to "smear on vaseline" because he is the one that knows what to do in fights not the corner, is far far more rude and disrespectful than dropping an F-bomb.

He really said that?

Oh dear.

ste1983 wrote:Think Sr is a bit eccentric but he kinda has a point, we seem to have lost all standards of profesionalism with these new modern media 'journalists'. I wouldn't have taken it as far as he has mind.

Kugan's response are a bit childish and screems of 'its my ball I'm taking it home' type stuff. Think he should remember its people like Eubank getting in the ring and slugging it out that allows him the nice career hes got.

Well pointed out. Get on the treadmill Kugan - it's the likes of Eubank that's keeping you in curries. That's not racist. I was going to say silk pyjamas and I bet he likes curries as well.

Ifl TV lads top class

credit to the sport

magwitch wrote:

ste1983 wrote:Think Sr is a bit eccentric but he kinda has a point, we seem to have lost all standards of profesionalism with these new modern media 'journalists'. I wouldn't have taken it as far as he has mind.

Kugan's response are a bit childish and screems of 'its my ball I'm taking it home' type stuff. Think he should remember its people like Eubank getting in the ring and slugging it out that allows him the nice career hes got.

Well pointed out. Get on the treadmill Kugan - it's the likes of Eubank that's keeping you in curries. That's not racist. I was going to say silk pyjamas and I bet he likes curries as well.

Wasn't he born with a pair on? rich daddy and all that?

Rexob wrote:

magwitch wrote:

ste1983 wrote:Think Sr is a bit eccentric but he kinda has a point, we seem to have lost all standards of profesionalism with these new modern media 'journalists'. I wouldn't have taken it as far as he has mind.

Kugan's response are a bit childish and screems of 'its my ball I'm taking it home' type stuff. Think he should remember its people like Eubank getting in the ring and slugging it out that allows him the nice career hes got.

Well pointed out. Get on the treadmill Kugan - it's the likes of Eubank that's keeping you in curries. That's not racist. I was going to say silk pyjamas and I bet he likes curries as well.

Wasn't he born with a pair on? rich daddy and all that?

There were rumours a while ago that he was an old school chum of Eddie - not sure if it is true?

It would explain how he was able to piss about for years with a camcorder and not have to find a job.

Rexob wrote:

magwitch wrote:

ste1983 wrote:Think Sr is a bit eccentric but he kinda has a point, we seem to have lost all standards of profesionalism with these new modern media 'journalists'. I wouldn't have taken it as far as he has mind.

Kugan's response are a bit childish and screems of 'its my ball I'm taking it home' type stuff. Think he should remember its people like Eubank getting in the ring and slugging it out that allows him the nice career hes got.

Well pointed out. Get on the treadmill Kugan - it's the likes of Eubank that's keeping you in curries. That's not racist. I was going to say silk pyjamas and I bet he likes curries as well.

Wasn't he born with a pair on? rich daddy and all that?

I've got no idea. People who've been born into wealth, however modest, have done nothing any worse that someone that's been born into less well off circumstances. To dislike someone for being "posh" or a bit different from you, is wrong. That's not aimed at you or anyone on here btw.

As regards Kugan Cassius. If he does make a nice amount of money to live off from publicising his little videos, then as long as he's not hurting or exploiting anyone, good luck to him - there's worse jobs out there and he's done it off his own back. Noone stopped anyone else from having a go at it.

I haven't even read the Twitter stuff either btw. To me, trying to read Twitter is like someone shotting a Scrabble board up in the air and trying to read it when it comes down!@#@#@#@#@#@#@#

I like the IFL stuff, although I think Kuggan can be a bit of a knob the boxers respond to it and he gets great access. We see stuff that is new and not the typical stuff. Think back to the days when we just saw stuff in the mags and papers, stuff that came from those roundtable stuff at press conferences.

But Eubank is judging him as a journalist, he is not a journalist and to call him so is an insult to anyone who has worked their ass off to get the qualifications, training and experience to call themselves one. I am the MD of a regional newspaper and find it insulting to the journos that I employ to put Kugan on a level with them. He is just a guy with a camera and access.

Think Kugan started out as Hatton's security if memory serves me right.

broomy7s wrote:Think Kugan started out as Hatton's security if memory serves me right.

He was his minder/bodyguard for the Pacquiao fight.

I like IFLTV though they don't always ask the most insightful questions which is a shame given their excellent access to fighters. However Eubank sr looks very pompous in this case.

tobyh5 wrote:I like the IFL stuff, although I think Kuggan can be a bit of a knob the boxers respond to it and he gets great access. We see stuff that is new and not the typical stuff. Think back to the days when we just saw stuff in the mags and papers, stuff that came from those roundtable stuff at press conferences.

But Eubank is judging him as a journalist, he is not a journalist and to call him so is an insult to anyone who has worked their ass off to get the qualifications, training and experience to call themselves one. I am the MD of a regional newspaper and find it insulting to the journos that I employ to put Kugan on a level with them. He is just a guy with a camera and access.

Agree with this. It offers something different because the fighters are more relaxed than they are in a typical interview environment but you have to take it as a guy with a camera and access, there's no real skill involved other than getting access.

I agree Kugan is not a serious journalist and sometimes wastes interview time with inane questions. The problem is the other people who interview fighters and trainers for internet viewing are no better and often worse. It is annoying that IT skills and access seem to trump intellect and journalistic aptitude.

Hard to take Eubank Sr. seriously on any issue. He'll do and say anything for a bit of attention.

ILikeBeer wrote:Hard to take Eubank Sr. seriously on any issue. He'll do and say anything for a bit of attention.

Be nice if he put his son in a few fights and got some attention that way!

mfc_se15 wrote:

ILikeBeer wrote:Hard to take Eubank Sr. seriously on any issue. He'll do and say anything for a bit of attention.

Be nice if he put his son in a few fights and got some attention that way!

To be fair, I think Sr. even uses his son's career as an attempt at getting more attention for himself.

ILikeBeer wrote:Hard to take Eubank Sr. seriously on any issue. He'll do and say anything for a bit of attention.

Disagree with that, hes outspoken yes, some of the stuff he says is rather bizzare yes but I think hes far from an attention seeker.

If he craved attention he could easily whore himself out on the usual celebrity/reality bollocks shows

ste1983 wrote:

ILikeBeer wrote:Hard to take Eubank Sr. seriously on any issue. He'll do and say anything for a bit of attention.

Disagree with that, hes outspoken yes, some of the stuff he says is rather bizzare yes but I think hes far from an attention seeker.

If he craved attention he could easily whore himself out on the usual celebrity/reality bollocks shows

He did do that At Home With The Eubanks, to be fair.

I wrote on Eubank's twitter that Kuggan is not a journo but a guy with a camera and access. Any mug could do it.

In the words. He has replied telling me off for MY language?! The word "mug"?

tobyh5 wrote:I wrote on Eubank's twitter that Kuggan is not a journo but a guy with a camera and access. Any mug could do it.

In the words. He has replied telling me off for MY language?! The word "mug"?

Hahaha that is class, eh at least he stands by his principles and beliefs not many do thesedays