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Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 11:47
by PredatorHayds
Just saw Nonito Donaire say he's missed out on the Quigg fight as he's fighting Mcdonnell.

When asked about Frampton he said it looks like Wake.

What's everyone think? Gutted Nonito isn't coming to the Uk but both are good fights.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 13:52
by jameswilson
I'm gutted that McDonnell is moving up. I'd have loved to see him face Payano and (assuming he won) try for the Yamanaka fight before moving up.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 13:59
by pyenest77
Me too I was made up when I thought Quigg v Donaire was happening at the MEN. Instead looks like he will be meeting another blown up bantamweight.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 14:01
by PredatorHayds
I can see Hearn making McDonnell-Quigg PPV.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 14:04
by Andrew
jameswilson wrote:I'm gutted that McDonnell is moving up. I'd have loved to see him face Payano and (assuming he won) try for the Yamanaka fight before moving up.
Same Jamie has a chance of becoming no 1 in a weight class something we have not had since Calzaghe.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 15:49
by Counter-puncher
I don't think McDonnell will have a problem with size at 122lbs, I think his frame will be fine there

Punching power will be a different matter.

However a box'n'move artist is the type who could give quigg- looking to set his feet and land power shots- quite a few problems

Good style matchup for McDonnell I m o if he can keep quigg continually resetting and peppering him with combinations and spinning off. I can see quigg spending a long time waiting to get punches off

I'd be cheering hard for mcdonnell

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 15:52
by PredatorHayds
Counter-puncher wrote:I don't think McDonnell will have a problem with size at 122lbs, I think his frame will be fine there

Punching power will be a different matter.

However a box'n'move artist is the type who could give quigg- looking to set his feet and land power shots- quite a few problems

Good style matchup for McDonnell I m o if he can keep quigg continually resetting and peppering him with combinations and spinning off. I can see quigg spending a long time waiting to get punches off

I'd be cheering hard for mcdonnell
He's just won fighter of the year aswell McDonnell which I think is deserved.

Been amazing this year

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 16:29
by Boxing Prospect
The Japanese media said Frampton and Wake have until November 28th to agree a deal or they'll call purse bids, sounds like Wake's wanting to get himself to the US for the bout, which would likely suit everyone.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 16:36
by expe
Boxing Prospect wrote:The Japanese media said Frampton and Wake have until November 28th to agree a deal or they'll call purse bids, sounds like Wake's wanting to get himself to the US for the bout, which would likely suit everyone.
Except Frampton and McGuigan, seemed like the plan was for him to fight in Belfast next, hopefully Wake doesn't fornicate them about with that.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 16:56
by PredatorHayds
Surely this fight makes more sense in Ireland?

It's not the type of fight that would generate a buzz on a PBC undercard.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 17:10
by Boxing Prospect
Depends on whether or not Haymon sees the chance to grow the Frampton brand from the fight, my guess is Wake's gone "neutral territory in the US would be nice..." to try and get some more money to go to Ireland but he did go over and watch Frampton Vs Gonzalez from ringside so may have got excited by being there for that one

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 17:14
by PredatorHayds
Boxing Prospect wrote:Depends on whether or not Haymon sees the chance to grow the Frampton brand from the fight, my guess is Wake's gone "neutral territory in the US would be nice..." to try and get some more money to go to Ireland but he did go over and watch Frampton Vs Gonzalez from ringside so may have got excited by being there for that one
I hope they don't overlook him. He looked great against Oguni.
I don't fancy him beating Frampton outside Japan though.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 25 Sep 2015, 17:26
by expe
Looking at the dates the arena's available, if they want it before Christmas in Ireland then it's either November 21st or December 19th in Belfast. Other option would be Dublin on November 14th or 21st unless they put it on a Friday night. First of those dates in Dublin would be my preference personally but probably a bit too soon for it to happen then.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 05:37
by Stuarty
I was kinda hoping for McDonnell vs Yamanaka or the winner of Haskins v Caballero. Surely the long term goal is for Frampton to fight Quigg. Wake is the mandatory so Frampton will need to get that out the way first unless a deal can be arranged. Hearn could do a lot worse than bringing Gonazales over for Quigg as he gave Frampton nightmares. Would be a good move. I'd say Gonzales has the potential to cause an upset there though.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 07:36
by expe
Stuarty30 wrote:I was kinda hoping for McDonnell vs Yamanaka or the winner of Haskins v Caballero. Surely the long term goal is for Frampton to fight Quigg. Wake is the mandatory so Frampton will need to get that out the way first unless a deal can be arranged. Hearn could do a lot worse than bringing Gonazales over for Quigg as he gave Frampton nightmares. Would be a good move. I'd say Gonzales has the potential to cause an upset there though.
If Quigg doesn't fight Frampton then he has to fight this lad as his "mandatory".

http://boxrec.com/boxer/472418

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 08:22
by orbtastic
PredatorHayds wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:I don't think McDonnell will have a problem with size at 122lbs, I think his frame will be fine there

Punching power will be a different matter.

However a box'n'move artist is the type who could give quigg- looking to set his feet and land power shots- quite a few problems

Good style matchup for McDonnell I m o if he can keep quigg continually resetting and peppering him with combinations and spinning off. I can see quigg spending a long time waiting to get punches off

I'd be cheering hard for mcdonnell
He's just won fighter of the year aswell McDonnell which I think is deserved.

Been amazing this year
They're pushing to get him Freeman of the Town next.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 09:37
by palooka
orbtastic wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:I don't think McDonnell will have a problem with size at 122lbs, I think his frame will be fine there

Punching power will be a different matter.

However a box'n'move artist is the type who could give quigg- looking to set his feet and land power shots- quite a few problems

Good style matchup for McDonnell I m o if he can keep quigg continually resetting and peppering him with combinations and spinning off. I can see quigg spending a long time waiting to get punches off

I'd be cheering hard for mcdonnell
He's just won fighter of the year aswell McDonnell which I think is deserved.

Been amazing this year
They're pushing to get him Freeman of the Town next.
Does that mean he's allowed to bring a flock of sheep into town over the North Bridge? I hope he does that I'll take a photo.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 10:43
by Stuarty
expe wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:I was kinda hoping for McDonnell vs Yamanaka or the winner of Haskins v Caballero. Surely the long term goal is for Frampton to fight Quigg. Wake is the mandatory so Frampton will need to get that out the way first unless a deal can be arranged. Hearn could do a lot worse than bringing Gonazales over for Quigg as he gave Frampton nightmares. Would be a good move. I'd say Gonzales has the potential to cause an upset there though.
If Quigg doesn't fight Frampton then he has to fight this lad as his "mandatory".

http://boxrec.com/boxer/472418
Looks pretty formidable on paper anyway.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 12:52
by Andrew
expe wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:I was kinda hoping for McDonnell vs Yamanaka or the winner of Haskins v Caballero. Surely the long term goal is for Frampton to fight Quigg. Wake is the mandatory so Frampton will need to get that out the way first unless a deal can be arranged. Hearn could do a lot worse than bringing Gonazales over for Quigg as he gave Frampton nightmares. Would be a good move. I'd say Gonzales has the potential to cause an upset there though.
If Quigg doesn't fight Frampton then he has to fight this lad as his "mandatory".

http://boxrec.com/boxer/472418
But really it should be that Quiggs title is wiped off the face of the earth and he is named mandatory for Rigondeaux.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 08:33
by ste1983
jameswilson wrote:I'm gutted that McDonnell is moving up. I'd have loved to see him face Payano and (assuming he won) try for the Yamanaka fight before moving up.
Didn't he say he wanted to clean up before moving up, maybe Eddie has thrown enough £ at him to make him switch plans.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 09:21
by mickey1975
ste1983 wrote:
jameswilson wrote:I'm gutted that McDonnell is moving up. I'd have loved to see him face Payano and (assuming he won) try for the Yamanaka fight before moving up.
Didn't he say he wanted to clean up before moving up, maybe Eddie has thrown enough £ at him to make him switch plans.
He'll fight whoever pays best. He couldn't care less about the glory.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 10:56
by Crease
Boxing Prospect wrote:The Japanese media said Frampton and Wake have until November 28th to agree a deal or they'll call purse bids
As In understand it, Wake is the IBF's mandatory challenger. Frampton has already met his mando for this year (when he beat Avalos) and he has come out and said that he's taking a bit of a break he won't be fighting for the rest of 2015.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 12:26
by Stuarty
Crease wrote:
Boxing Prospect wrote:The Japanese media said Frampton and Wake have until November 28th to agree a deal or they'll call purse bids
As In understand it, Wake is the IBF's mandatory challenger. Frampton has already met his mando for this year (when he beat Avalos) and he has come out and said that he's taking a bit of a break he won't be fighting for the rest of 2015.
Didn't know Frampton had said that. Quite disappointing. Was waiting for an announcement. From what I've been reading it seems they are back in negotiations with Quigg but can't see that happening til next summer.

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 12:31
by Boxing Prospect
Stuarty30 wrote:
Crease wrote:
Boxing Prospect wrote:The Japanese media said Frampton and Wake have until November 28th to agree a deal or they'll call purse bids
As In understand it, Wake is the IBF's mandatory challenger. Frampton has already met his mando for this year (when he beat Avalos) and he has come out and said that he's taking a bit of a break he won't be fighting for the rest of 2015.
Didn't know Frampton had said that. Quite disappointing. Was waiting for an announcement. From what I've been reading it seems they are back in negotiations with Quigg but can't see that happening til next summer.
Pretty sure the IBF demand one mandatory every 9 months not every year-

Rule 6D-
Once this initial mandatory defense obligation has been satisfied, the
Champion shall defend his championship within intervals of no more than nine (9)
months against the leading available contender in his weight class as designated by
the Championships Chairman.
http://www.ibfusbaregistration.com/ibfu ... 7_2014.pdf

Re: Quigg-McDonnell Frampton-Wake

Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 14:16
by handsofstone
Frampton's always been too inactive for my liking