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If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 14:28
by Taansend
Aside from the obvious jokes like "tell him not to take the fight" or "take a baseball bat" etc......
What would your strategy be for the Golovkin fight?
Go all in? Try to take GGG late? Jab? Dance?
Does Golovkin have any glaring weaknesses? Who, since he came to prominence, has asked him the toughest questions in the ring?
By the way, I'm not Lemieux's trainer looking for some pointers
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I have no idea what his strategy should be. I suppose it would be to mix it up, turn it into a war and hope to land a hail mary.
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 14:37
by gilgamesh
Only thing he can do is come out guns blazing and hope he catches Golovkin. He can't outbox him, and Golovkin doesn't get tired so hanging back and hoping he wears himself down would be a very poor strategy.
He's just gotta go for it. It'll probably get him knocked out, but honestly I can't imagine a strategy that won't get him knocked out. At least if he guns out throwing bombs he's got a chance to beat Golovkin to the punch.
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 15:18
by Tony1244
Reminds me of the Family Guy cutaway where Peter is a boxing trainer, and he tells his fighter, "Hit the guy hard, but don't let him hit you."
GGG is a good boxer, so try to sneak in that very hard and lucky punch(es).
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 16:39
by ikorolev
The Revival wrote:Only thing he can do is come out guns blazing and hope he catches Golovkin. He can't outbox him, and Golovkin doesn't get tired so hanging back and hoping he wears himself down would be a very poor strategy.
He's just gotta go for it. It'll probably get him knocked out, but honestly I can't imagine a strategy that won't get him knocked out. At least if he guns out throwing bombs he's got a chance to beat Golovkin to the punch.
+1
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 16:44
by Butterbean
protect yourself at all times...
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 16:51
by koolkc107
The most significant chink in lil' g's armor (and maybe the only one that can be readily exploited) is the fact that he doesn't fight nearly as well when backed up.
Lemieux's jab (and his ability to block, slip, or take the counters that are surely going to be coming back his way) will probably be the determining factor in the fight.
The other thing he can try is to crowd Gennady, and rough him up a bit in the process.
Make it an inside fight and hope staying very close negates some of the leverage Golovkin gets on his shots.
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 18:38
by gilgamesh
Tony1244 wrote:Reminds me of the Family Guy cutaway where Peter is a boxing trainer, and he tells his fighter, "Hit the guy hard, but don't let him hit you."
GGG is a good boxer, so try to sneak in that very hard and lucky punch(es).
You're giving Peter too much credit. His advice is nothing more than "Punch him, Punch him, You gotta punch him, Punch him, Punch him"

Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 19:35
by Ricky_
A trainer is never gonna be so reckless to tell his guy to go all guns blazing because it's his only chance, but Lemieux needs to go all guns blazing because it's his only chance.
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 19:50
by Chepppaaa
i would say, dont fight ggg
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Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 20:02
by punchoutsb
Taansend wrote:Aside from the obvious jokes like "tell him not to take the fight" or "take a baseball bat" etc......
What would your strategy be for the Golovkin fight?
Go all in? Try to take GGG late? Jab? Dance?
Does Golovkin have any glaring weaknesses? Who, since he came to prominence, has asked him the toughest questions in the ring?
By the way, I'm not Lemieux's trainer looking for some pointers
DD
I have no idea what his strategy should be. I suppose it would be to mix it up, turn it into a war and hope to land a hail mary.
Ah I thought I had you firgured out!
Lemiuex has a habit of tiring in the mid to late rounds; GGG does not. GGG is also the superior boxer.
I'd tell him we need to start early. GGG is a somewhat slow starter, especially compared to Lemiuex who comes out guns blazing. Take advantage of that and try to make something happen. But stay smart, don't get into a slugfest. Lemiuex is also the bigger man, so if the business hasn't been finished one way or the other I'd tell him to start initiating some clinches and lean on him to try and wear GGG down (and recover a bit himself) in the later mid rounds.
GGG's only weakness is that he gets hit too much. David's got the power to put a dent in anybody's head. It's going to be an entertaining fight!
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 20:31
by ClivePatrickLyons
GGG isn't the hardest guy to hit and even though he is really good at tracking his opponent's down [cutting off the ring] he still seems slow to me on his feet and guy's who punch like he does usually lack a touch in the speed department with their hand's I'v never seen GGG really hurt or in any sort on stress yet.......... Lemieux he as been stopped inside the distance once and lost on point's the other time he was defeated so GGG will
be going for a early KO knowing that he's been stopped before I think Lemieux must get his jab going the earlier he can establish it and start finding the range the better he will have to be smart early the longer the fight goes the better for Lemieux he should start to find opening's in GGG defence especially if he can gain respect with his jab in the early going and with his good power he might be able to back up GGG and start to test his chin out big time but it will be essential that he doesn't get caught early or GGG will be like a runaway train hard to stop and he must keep chipping away at GGG and wear him down because even though GGG chin has never been really tested yet especially later in a fight so in my view it would be suicidal for Lemieux to come out all gun's a blazing something he loves to do he must use brain's not brawn so he must take GGG late in the fight IF HE DOES[Lemieux] BY 11 ROUND TKO...............That's the plan if I'm his trainer
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Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 22:02
by SFW
Lemieux should sell out to the body, leave the head alone, when those arms start dropping crack that chin
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 22:47
by diddy
What do you think his game plan is??
Land something fight-ending.
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 23:11
by jezzamundo
Stay on the inside as much as possible. Work GGG's body. Try to push him back. Stay off the ropes.
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 13 Oct 2015, 23:49
by ikorolev
punchoutsb wrote:Taansend wrote:Aside from the obvious jokes like "tell him not to take the fight" or "take a baseball bat" etc......
What would your strategy be for the Golovkin fight?
Go all in? Try to take GGG late? Jab? Dance?
Does Golovkin have any glaring weaknesses? Who, since he came to prominence, has asked him the toughest questions in the ring?
By the way, I'm not Lemieux's trainer looking for some pointers
DD
I have no idea what his strategy should be. I suppose it would be to mix it up, turn it into a war and hope to land a hail mary.
Ah I thought I had you firgured out!
Lemiuex has a habit of tiring in the mid to late rounds; GGG does not. GGG is also the superior boxer.
I'd tell him we need to start early. GGG is a somewhat slow starter, especially compared to Lemiuex who comes out guns blazing. Take advantage of that and try to make something happen. But stay smart, don't get into a slugfest. Lemiuex is also the bigger man, so if the business hasn't been finished one way or the other I'd tell him to start initiating some clinches and lean on him to try and wear GGG down (and recover a bit himself) in the later mid rounds.
GGG's only weakness is that he gets hit too much. David's got the power to put a dent in anybody's head. It's going to be an entertaining fight!
Slow starter ? Rubio KO2, Geale KO3, Adama KD1, Stevens KD2, Monroe KD2 ...
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 14 Oct 2015, 00:19
by crusader
-Stay as close to him as you can while being able to get your shots off and try to move him back: GGG is most effective at 3/4 range with looping blows and seems to lose some steam on his shots when he has to shorten them more, whereas your best shots are very short ones. He also doesn't seem to be effective offensively when he's being moved back and if you manage to do this to him it could make you less vulnerable while still having chances to be offensive.
-Don't be afraid to hold and hit, throw rabbit punches, stray low, and so forth.:GGG is used to bullying intimidated opponents who rarely do anything to make him uncomfortable. If you play rough in moderation I think you'll have a better chance of unsettling him and showing that you're not afraid.
-Work the body regularly: GGG has shown more vulnerability to body shots than head shots. This could also help slow him down more if you manage to make it several rounds deep.
-Try to avoid moving backward for spells as you sometimes do following offensive bursts: GGG is very effective coming forward and you seem to get hit the most when you back off and especially when you're against the ropes, where GGG is lethal.
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 14 Oct 2015, 06:54
by Kootenay47
find the best voodoo priestess and tell her to jab , jab , jab the Golovkin doll

Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 14 Oct 2015, 07:20
by caldo2025
Lemieux is like Wilder IMO, he's a world class boxer when coming forward. When retreating and moving backwards, neither guy is mediocre at best. If you watch Lemieux's fight with Rosado, when Rosado caught Lemieux moving backwards to get some breath, he was able to get off 3 and 4 punch combinations upstairs that went unanswered. Lemieux demolished him but it was glaring to me how different a boxer i was watching moving backwards.
GGG does admittedly take too many shots and has never been hurt so he may have one of those Chavez Sr like chins that can't be hurt. GGG's knocked out people while simultaneously taking the other guys best punch on the button (Geale). So I completely agree with KC up there...For Lemieux to win this fight, he has to be either moving forward or crowd GGG and trade with him. Try to win rounds because even with Lemieux fantastic power, i don't think GGG's going anywhere.
I will enjoy this fight for however long it lasts though, that's for sure. We may be in store for a fight of the ages. Maybe not.
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 14 Oct 2015, 09:56
by punchoutsb
ikorolev wrote:
Slow starter ? Rubio KO2, Geale KO3, Adama KD1, Stevens KD2, Monroe KD2 ...
Yes.
GGG is a somewhat slow starter. He doesn't really find his groove until round four or five. Being a slow starter doesn't mean you don't hit hard

Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 14 Oct 2015, 11:24
by Tony1244
The Revival wrote:Tony1244 wrote:Reminds me of the Family Guy cutaway where Peter is a boxing trainer, and he tells his fighter, "Hit the guy hard, but don't let him hit you."
GGG is a good boxer, so try to sneak in that very hard and lucky punch(es).
You're giving Peter too much credit. His advice is nothing more than "Punch him, Punch him, You gotta punch him, Punch him, Punch him"

Was that the exact quote? I seem to edit jokes I hear subconsciously.
Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 14 Oct 2015, 11:33
by Taansend
Chepppaaa wrote:i would say, dont fight ggg
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We covered that with the very first sentence.

Re: If You Were Lemieux's Trainer...
Posted: 14 Oct 2015, 12:13
by Chepppaaa
Taansend wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:i would say, dont fight ggg
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DD
We covered that with the very first sentence.

in seriousnes.
if i would be his trainer i would say box, dont brawl, because going to war with ggg is suicide, ggg's power and punch variety is world class elite, unless you posses julian jackson kind of power i would try to box, to counter, to move, to make it boring, to establish your own rythm and certainly when you box from inside than unleash 3-5 punches, not only 1 and get countered, realy hurt ggg when you are close, but most of the time, move and stay patient.