BoxRec

Lets put it to a poll.
It's been discussed to death.
One vote each and I've allowed for re-voting in case, like me, it changes from day to day

Feel free to add opinions and tell other people how wrong they are

Surely Wlad's not going to win this?!

Wlad for me

jezzamundo wrote:Surely Wlad's not going to win this?!

I must admit to being slightly surprised to pop back in and find him leading.

davie wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:Surely Wlad's not going to win this?!

I must admit to being slightly surprised to pop back in and find him leading.

a lot of clueless people on this site, i am not surprised

Boxrec automated scoring of lower weight classes is way off compared to higher weight classes. Something needs to be done about that.

Who has dominated their weight class for over 10 year's Wlad besides Pacman who's been there done that[P4P no.1]the rest on the list are still puppy's :?? let me know when you find a world champ in the same boat undefeated for over a decade when was his [Wlad] last close fight :??

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Who has dominated their weight class for over 10 year's Wlad besides Pacman who's been there done that[P4P no.1]the rest on the list are still puppy's :?? let me know when you find a world champ in the same boat undefeated for over a decade when was his [Wlad] last close fight :??

You might want to put some more little yellow faces in there just in case ......nothing shows boxing knowledge like a smiley face

ikorolev wrote:Boxrec automated scoring of lower weight classes is way off compared to higher weight classes. Something needs to be done about that.

Yeah I don't really understand that. Guys below around featherweight with great records seem to have to do way more, and even if they do, it seems like they can't climb up as high as the bigger fighters, the way it's set up.

Maybe there's a reasonable reason for that algorithm, but when guys like Gonzalez and Inoue are ranked 25th and 44th respectively, I think it's something to wonder about.

Bobbyptsd wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Boxrec automated scoring of lower weight classes is way off compared to higher weight classes. Something needs to be done about that.

Yeah I don't really understand that. Guys below around featherweight with great records seem to have to do way more, and even if they do, it seems like they can't climb up as high as the bigger fighters, the way it's set up.

Maybe there's a reasonable reason for that algorithm, but when guys like Gonzalez and Inoue are ranked 25th and 44th respectively, I think it's something to wonder about.

It's because people move up in weight. Like, imagine there's 4,500 total boxrec rating points in the Flyweight division and there's 4,500 total boxrec rating points in the Super Flyweight division. Then imagine a Flyweight with a boxrec rating of 500 moves-up to Super Flyweight. Now there's 4,000 total boxrec rating points in the Flyweight division and 5,000 total boxrec rating points in the Super Flyweight division. Now imagine that happening on a broader scale all of the time for over a century. So rating points are going to pool upward to heavier divisions, those divisions are larger mountains of rating points, and the kings of those divisions are going to have higher ratings.

Chepppaaa wrote:

davie wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:Surely Wlad's not going to win this?!

I must admit to being slightly surprised to pop back in and find him leading.

a lot of clueless people on this site, i am not surprised

Pot, meet kettle.

Lackeos wrote:

Bobbyptsd wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Boxrec automated scoring of lower weight classes is way off compared to higher weight classes. Something needs to be done about that.

Yeah I don't really understand that. Guys below around featherweight with great records seem to have to do way more, and even if they do, it seems like they can't climb up as high as the bigger fighters, the way it's set up.

Maybe there's a reasonable reason for that algorithm, but when guys like Gonzalez and Inoue are ranked 25th and 44th respectively, I think it's something to wonder about.

It's because people move up in weight. Like, imagine there's 4,500 total boxrec rating points in the Flyweight division and there's 4,500 total boxrec rating points in the Super Flyweight division. Then imagine a Flyweight with a boxrec rating of 500 moves-up to Super Flyweight. Now there's 4,000 total boxrec rating points in the Flyweight division and 5,000 total boxrec rating points in the Super Flyweight division. Now imagine that happening on a broader scale all of the time for over a century. So rating points are going to pool upward to heavier divisions, those divisions are larger mountains of rating points, and the kings of those divisions are going to have higher ratings.

I think I understand what you mean.

Lackeos wrote:

Bobbyptsd wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Boxrec automated scoring of lower weight classes is way off compared to higher weight classes. Something needs to be done about that.

Yeah I don't really understand that. Guys below around featherweight with great records seem to have to do way more, and even if they do, it seems like they can't climb up as high as the bigger fighters, the way it's set up.

Maybe there's a reasonable reason for that algorithm, but when guys like Gonzalez and Inoue are ranked 25th and 44th respectively, I think it's something to wonder about.

It's because people move up in weight. Like, imagine there's 4,500 total boxrec rating points in the Flyweight division and there's 4,500 total boxrec rating points in the Super Flyweight division. Then imagine a Flyweight with a boxrec rating of 500 moves-up to Super Flyweight. Now there's 4,000 total boxrec rating points in the Flyweight division and 5,000 total boxrec rating points in the Super Flyweight division. Now imagine that happening on a broader scale all of the time for over a century. So rating points are going to pool upward to heavier divisions, those divisions are larger mountains of rating points, and the kings of those divisions are going to have higher ratings.

It is a good explanation, but it means that the algorithm is bad.

Lackeos wrote:

Bobbyptsd wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Boxrec automated scoring of lower weight classes is way off compared to higher weight classes. Something needs to be done about that.

Yeah I don't really understand that. Guys below around featherweight with great records seem to have to do way more, and even if they do, it seems like they can't climb up as high as the bigger fighters, the way it's set up.

Maybe there's a reasonable reason for that algorithm, but when guys like Gonzalez and Inoue are ranked 25th and 44th respectively, I think it's something to wonder about.

It's because people move up in weight. Like, imagine there's 4,500 total boxrec rating points in the Flyweight division and there's 4,500 total boxrec rating points in the Super Flyweight division. Then imagine a Flyweight with a boxrec rating of 500 moves-up to Super Flyweight. Now there's 4,000 total boxrec rating points in the Flyweight division and 5,000 total boxrec rating points in the Super Flyweight division. Now imagine that happening on a broader scale all of the time for over a century. So rating points are going to pool upward to heavier divisions, those divisions are larger mountains of rating points, and the kings of those divisions are going to have higher ratings.

Ahh, I see, thanks for clearing that up.
I always wondered why so many welter weights found their way into a high p4p ranking spot without doing much to earn it (see Kell Brook).

and where is Vasily Lomachenko ?
https://vk.com/vasyllomachenko?z=photo- ... 4_00%2Frev