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found this slightly worrying

Posted: 21 Oct 2015, 05:59
by jonp
Just seen a news piece on FB about a 59 year old guy setting a record for being the oldest boxer. This cant be a world record as saul mamby was older wile still fighting.
The more worrying aspect was his trainer saying to the newswoman quite candidly that the guy trains in a sauna for 2 hours at a time in a Sweatsuit!!!

IMO trainer should be putting his foot down thats not healthy especialy in someone pushing 60

Re: found this slightly worrying

Posted: 21 Oct 2015, 06:24
by milpool
Is this Steve Ward? If so, this had been discussed on the Malta thread and I think everyone agrees that it is a concern.
The bout is scheduled for December, so you can only hope that common sense prevails by then...

Re: found this slightly worrying

Posted: 21 Oct 2015, 09:32
by jonp

Re: found this slightly worrying

Posted: 21 Oct 2015, 09:39
by expe
It's not healthy for anyone, at any age to be doing that, whether they're a boxer or not. Add in that he's 59 years old and training for a fight and it's seriously dangerous. Unless he's taking on absurd amounts of water each day he's going to be more or less permanently dehydrated with how much he'll be sweating.

Re: found this slightly worrying

Posted: 21 Oct 2015, 10:56
by Looking On
I know Steve Personally and have to admit i did find that all a bit odd

Re: found this slightly worrying

Posted: 21 Oct 2015, 10:57
by Looking On
jonp wrote:Just seen a news piece on FB about a 59 year old guy setting a record for being the oldest boxer. This cant be a world record as saul mamby was older wile still fighting.
The more worrying aspect was his trainer saying to the newswoman quite candidly that the guy trains in a sauna for 2 hours at a time in a Sweatsuit!!!

IMO trainer should be putting his foot down thats not healthy especialy in someone pushing 60
I think expe said similarly about mamby on the other thread. can only assume he didnt box actual pro, recorded...Maybe exhibitions, otherwise Micky rourke was also older but again his was exhibition. The record is 57 years and X days held by an american

Re: found this slightly worrying

Posted: 21 Oct 2015, 11:02
by jonp
guiness book of records needs to step up its not like this stuff is hard to find

http://boxrec.com/boxer/235

Re: found this slightly worrying

Posted: 21 Oct 2015, 11:05
by jonp
makes you wonder how many of the records in there are actual records or just things people have claimed and nobody has bothered to check out.

On a more serious note that interveiw is not good for boxing god forbid if something happens im not even on about his age or lay off im on about the fact his trainer is saying he trains in a sauna for two hours in a sweatsuit thats just ridiculous

Re: found this slightly worrying

Posted: 21 Oct 2015, 11:08
by expe
Looking On wrote:
jonp wrote:Just seen a news piece on FB about a 59 year old guy setting a record for being the oldest boxer. This cant be a world record as saul mamby was older wile still fighting.
The more worrying aspect was his trainer saying to the newswoman quite candidly that the guy trains in a sauna for 2 hours at a time in a Sweatsuit!!!

IMO trainer should be putting his foot down thats not healthy especialy in someone pushing 60
I think expe said similarly about mamby on the other thread. can only assume he didnt box actual pro, recorded...Maybe exhibitions, otherwise Micky rourke was also older but again his was exhibition. The record is 57 years and X days held by an american
Bit more about Mamby's fight from it's encyclopedia page and a couple of others who may have fought professionally while older, including Jack Johnson.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1290731

Boxrec has the record as verified too which is a very good indication that the fight details are correct, leaving Mamby's age as the only question left.

Re: found this slightly worrying

Posted: 21 Oct 2015, 11:17
by jamesmcdonnell
expe wrote:
Looking On wrote:
jonp wrote:Just seen a news piece on FB about a 59 year old guy setting a record for being the oldest boxer. This cant be a world record as saul mamby was older wile still fighting.
The more worrying aspect was his trainer saying to the newswoman quite candidly that the guy trains in a sauna for 2 hours at a time in a Sweatsuit!!!

IMO trainer should be putting his foot down thats not healthy especialy in someone pushing 60
I think expe said similarly about mamby on the other thread. can only assume he didnt box actual pro, recorded...Maybe exhibitions, otherwise Micky rourke was also older but again his was exhibition. The record is 57 years and X days held by an american
Bit more about Mamby's fight from it's encyclopedia page and a couple of others who may have fought professionally while older, including Jack Johnson.

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1290731

Boxrec has the record as verified too which is a very good indication that the fight details are correct, leaving Mamby's age as the only question left.
Weren't Jacksons exhibition bouts? Let's be honest, I'm pretty sure at Mamby's age they must have been surely too.

Re: found this slightly worrying

Posted: 21 Oct 2015, 17:44
by tobyh5
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Weren't Jacksons exhibition bouts? Let's be honest, I'm pretty sure at Mamby's age they must have been surely too.
Nicely combing the two names into one. :lol:

Re: found this slightly worrying

Posted: 22 Oct 2015, 10:27
by jamesmcdonnell
tobyh5 wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Weren't Jacksons exhibition bouts? Let's be honest, I'm pretty sure at Mamby's age they must have been surely too.
Nicely combing the two names into one. :lol:
Hahaha.

But seriously, everyone in the know in boxing calls him Jackson for short.

Michael Jackson's name is - Michael Jack Johnson. Fact.

Re: found this slightly worrying

Posted: 23 Oct 2015, 06:41
by damianhucker1
I believe to have a record in the guiness book of records, an application has to be made, with proof or an official adjudicator has to be present at the time of the record attempt, hence some records maybe not being as they seem.

In regards to Steve, hes a brilliant guy, and has my complete respect, he will win his fight and will thoroughly deserve his place in the records