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And Floyd,Floyd Sr. and Leonard Ellerbe all deny that there are any negotiations.

I won't believe it until both men are in the ring.I can not see Haymon even entertaining the
idea with the lawsuits that are going on.

tiny_acres wrote:And Floyd,Floyd Sr. and Leonard Ellerbe all deny that there are any negotiations.

I won't believe it until both men are in the ring.I can not see Haymon even entertaining the
idea with the lawsuits that are going on.

Yep.

I think Manny is fantasizing, or saying that to save face to his fans.

I don't think any real negotiation is ongoing.

And what makes it worse for Pac's chances of getting the rematch is the fact that
the lawsuits are not going well. A judge just tossed out Arum's antitrust claim, the
meat of the lawsuit. Unless his lawyers can figure out how to refile the claim, it's done.

Its totally false. Pacquiao caught lying again.

koolkc107 wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:And Floyd,Floyd Sr. and Leonard Ellerbe all deny that there are any negotiations.

I won't believe it until both men are in the ring.I can not see Haymon even entertaining the
idea with the lawsuits that are going on.

Yep.

I think Manny is fantasizing, or saying that to save face to his fans.

I don't think any real negotiation is ongoing.

And what makes it worse for Pac's chances of getting the rematch is the fact that
the lawsuits are not going well. A judge just tossed out Arum's antitrust claim, the
meat of the lawsuit. Unless his lawyers can figure out how to refile the claim, it's done.

I disagree. I would say that the judge throwing out Arums Lawsuit is a positive to getting a possible rematch done, not the other way around. If there were litigation ongoing then there would be no possible chance but now without anything legally standing in the way between the two, the chances are better. Not great but better.

I think Manny should also announce his retirement and just start pressing Floyd's buttons through the media until he finally signs on to fight. A fight against Crawford would be great for fans but that fight is hazardous for Manny's health

Are we really entertaining this fight again? LMAO, after all the chapped ass people with how the first fight played out and people are still talking about it. There's no reason for a rematch, none at all, Floyd easily handled Pacquiao and the second fight will be no different.. Pacquiaos shoulder excuse was nothing more than him trying to hide the fact he was schooled by Floyd (after his failed attempt of trying to claim he thought he won the fight), but I bet there are some fools that will fall for it and buy the 2nd fight only to see Floyd handle Pacquiao in much the same way. Pacquiao should retire unless he wants to fight someone like Crawford to give Crawford the opportunity to take this throne or simply take a easy fight against someone like Jessie Vargas to go out on top.. Those are 2 scenarios I would be fine with.. I was fine with Floyd ending with Berto, I didn't care about the fight, but I'm fine with Floyd retiring after that.. If Floyd comes back there has to be a lot of risk involved and he needs to give a young fighter like Thurman or Brook a shot at taking his throne, anything less will be unacceptable IMO. The Pacquiao fight is old news and no one cares about that fight anymore, both guys need to either retire or give the up and coming stars a shot at their throne (Although I will give Pacquiao one easy going away fight if he actually retires afterwards).

caldo2025 wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:And Floyd,Floyd Sr. and Leonard Ellerbe all deny that there are any negotiations.

I won't believe it until both men are in the ring.I can not see Haymon even entertaining the
idea with the lawsuits that are going on.

Yep.

I think Manny is fantasizing, or saying that to save face to his fans.

I don't think any real negotiation is ongoing.

And what makes it worse for Pac's chances of getting the rematch is the fact that
the lawsuits are not going well. A judge just tossed out Arum's antitrust claim, the
meat of the lawsuit. Unless his lawyers can figure out how to refile the claim, it's done.

I disagree. I would say that the judge throwing out Arums Lawsuit is a positive to getting a possible rematch done, not the other way around. If there were litigation ongoing then there would be no possible chance but now without anything legally standing in the way between the two, the chances are better. Not great but better.

I think Manny should also announce his retirement and just start pressing Floyd's buttons through the media until he finally signs on to fight. A fight against Crawford would be great for fans but that fight is hazardous for Manny's health

If the lawsuits were going well- or even 50/50- that might have supplied enough leverage to bring Haymon to the table.
But what did we get? The bad blood from a judge tossing it out only to have Arum re-file.
The rematch just got shot to pieces.

In my opinion, the lawsuit has nothing to do with the "May vs Pac" negotiations. There were no negotiations in the first place. I think it is just Pac putting it out in the media (lying out of his ass) for his fan's sake, to know he wants a rematch.

Pac could have had a rematch, but instead wanted to come up with excuses (after saying he thought he won). Sore losers don't get another payday, is the bottom line. It wasn't close enough to warrant a rematch anyway.

Floyd is retired!

Manny, (and his fans) need to move on.

Why would pacquaio want to fight a dirty fighter?

If there are indeed negotiations happening, which is doubtful, I wonder if God has already told Manny this time he'll win?
Since, you know, he claims that last time he knew he was going to lose going into the fight, after God told him beforehand?
And if you're Manny this time around and want to sell a PPV, can you lie about God's personal messages, as in, if God is telling him that this is another loss for him, would he falsely claim the opposite for promotional purposes and compromise himself?

"God told me I was going to lose, so it was no surprise"
Thanks for the inside info, after the fact, Dude.