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Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 21 Nov 2015, 20:49
by Freedom2013
Interesting article here:

Why the hate for Triple G?

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 21 Nov 2015, 23:56
by ikorolev
Nah, some hate him because he is not American/Mexican/Puerto Rican, the others - because he is not black.

What else can you hate in one of the most exciting and dominant fighters ?

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 00:05
by brilo33
think the Lemieux fight .showed what he can do.top boxer with lead in his gloves

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 00:11
by Pureist
Not often you have fighters in your own division flatly refuse to to fight the champ, that's a telling story in itself

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 00:29
by brilo33
triple ggg mugs of the division in truth.as much as i like andy lee. its a joke

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 00:32
by brilo33
brilo33 wrote:triple ggg mugs of the division in truth.as much as i like andy lee. its a joke
the only boxer who could beat him, is ward but that aint a given .he is such a good boxer with such power i would go triple g

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 16:00
by Tony1244
People will always hate on athletes or teams that are excellent. I think it's really that simple.

Of course some of it is wrong country or color, but that has always been the case as well.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 16:13
by handsofstone
brilo33 wrote:triple ggg mugs of the division in truth.as much as i like andy lee. its a joke
Lee agreed to fight Golovkin but it was Gennady who pulled out after his dad died,even Tom Loeffer said himself that Andy Lee was the only person willing to fight him at that point

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 17:18
by Lackeos
Golovkin has some of the most obnoxious fans in boxing, aside from Mayweather. As long as so many others are giving him more credit than he deserves, I feel no desire to give him any additional credit.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 18:37
by kidbazooka1
Lackeos wrote:Golovkin has some of the most obnoxious fans in boxing, aside from Mayweather. As long as so many others are giving him more credit than he deserves, I feel no desire to give him any additional credit.
This

The guy has not one elite level fighter on his resume yet his nuthuggers will say well know one wants to fight him.

Lara calls him out but his team wasnt intrested and he doesn't wanna move up one measly division to fight Ward.

But but no one wants to fight him its getting old.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 18:50
by Counter-puncher
Lackeos wrote: As long as so many others are giving him more credit than he deserves, I feel no desire to give him any additional credit.

That's fair enough, but when the backlash against ggg includes picking canelo to school him its madness.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 18:55
by hurricanemitch14
Fans don't hate GGG, fans can't stand GGG nuthuggers that are blind. His best win(Murray) just lost to AA, a guy that's done been dominated by Ward and Froch. Yet GGG fans act like he's superman and has proven more than Ward, Froch and Floyd.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 18:56
by Tanzio
Counter-puncher wrote:
Lackeos wrote: As long as so many others are giving him more credit than he deserves, I feel no desire to give him any additional credit.

That's fair enough, but when the backlash against ggg includes picking canelo to school him its madness.
. . . Madness I tellya!

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 19:06
by Bobbyptsd
Who doesn't like him?

I mean, I haven't really seen anyone who presents a serious case against him on the basis of style or ability. Some people say his opposition hasn't been what it could, but even those seem to usually agree he's quite a fighter.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 20:17
by crusader
'Hate' may be a bit strong, but I've seen plenty of people on Twitter and other forums (e.g. BS) be what I'd consider overly negative about GGG, as if they have an agenda against him or are fed up with some of the over the top hype and are trying to balance it with their own nonsense.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 20:46
by SFW
The key word is agenda.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 21:33
by ikorolev
crusader wrote:'Hate' may be a bit strong, but I've seen plenty of people on Twitter and other forums (e.g. BS) be what I'd consider overly negative about GGG, as if they have an agenda against him or are fed up with some of the over the top hype and are trying to balance it with their own nonsense.
There is some real hate in for example boxingforum24. Of course, those haters are minority, but they keep pouring dirt on Gennady.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 21:43
by ikorolev
kidbazooka1 wrote:
Lackeos wrote:Golovkin has some of the most obnoxious fans in boxing, aside from Mayweather. As long as so many others are giving him more credit than he deserves, I feel no desire to give him any additional credit.
This

The guy has not one elite level fighter on his resume yet his nuthuggers will say well know one wants to fight him.

Lara calls him out but his team wasnt intrested and he doesn't wanna move up one measly division to fight Ward.

But but no one wants to fight him its getting old.
Here is an example of if not a hater, then an idiot. Lara is a Haymon fighter who can't fight on HBO by default, and he hasn't moved any further than calling out Golovkin on twitter. You seriously want to fight ? Have Haymon contact Loefler and talk.

Ward is a total joke. Sending an "offer" to Golovkin when he has a unification PPV scheduled with a good chance of other unifications to follow ? Did he really expect Gennady to rely on him and have anything scheduled ? He knew that his "offer" wouldn't be considered and was just seeking publicity. What is a guarantee that Ward's knee or anything else won't suddenly swell right before the fight with Golovkin?

By the way, when HBO offered Ward to fight Golovkin 2 years ago, he refused preferring Rodriguez.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 21:47
by ikorolev
hurricanemitch14 wrote:Fans don't hate GGG, fans can't stand GGG nuthuggers that are blind. His best win(Murray) just lost to AA, a guy that's done been dominated by Ward and Froch. Yet GGG fans act like he's superman and has proven more than Ward, Froch and Floyd.
Froch retired when called out by GGG and Ward hasn't fought anybody with a pulse in 2 years. His best wins are 4+ years old. Before he beats anybody decent of his own size, he will remain a has been. In the last 2 years, Golovkin in fact has proven more than Ward and Froch together.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 22:13
by BAD INTENTIONS
Lackeos wrote:Golovkin has some of the most obnoxious fans in boxing, aside from Mayweather. As long as so many others are giving him more credit than he deserves, I feel no desire to give him any additional credit.
This exact sentiment all the time.

However, this is the most inconsistent feeling among knowledgeable boxing fans.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 22 Nov 2015, 22:57
by Undefeated49-0
Tony1244 wrote:People will always hate on athletes or teams that are excellent. I think it's really that simple.

Of course some of it is wrong country or color, but that has always been the case as well.
There's no such thing as "wrong" country or "wrong" color, just different country or different color.

People get taught how to be a bigot and a racist by their parents first and then it is reinforced by the media and further brainwashed by a flawed perception of history, friends (who had their parents teach them how to be that way) and negative stereotypes.

Some people dislike GGG because he is being exalted on a pedestal that some may feel he has yet earned, that isn't his fault that the other paper champions are afraid to face him and give him the chance to prove that he deserves what the media and his fans are portraying him to be but this may be one of the reasons people hate on him.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 00:37
by ikorolev
RandomUsername wrote:GGG has never fought anyone. Compare that to Canelo who fought Mayweather and beat Cotto. GGG needs to earn his reputation the WBC can't simply rank it up for him.
Yep, Canelo earned his "reputation" by beating smaller fighters. Cotto was likely 12 pounds lighter than him yesterday. And who is Cotto ? The fighter who lost ALL of the most important fights in the last 6 years except the one against a disabled person ? Besides, Trout and Lara arguably defeated Canelo.

Who does GGG need to beat "to earn his reputation" ? He is ready to fight any other MW champion or another top fighter who can be on HBO.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 01:04
by Undefeated49-0
ikorolev wrote:
RandomUsername wrote:GGG has never fought anyone. Compare that to Canelo who fought Mayweather and beat Cotto. GGG needs to earn his reputation the WBC can't simply rank it up for him.
Yep, Canelo earned his "reputation" by beating smaller fighters. Cotto was likely 12 pounds lighter than him yesterday. And who is Cotto ? The fighter who lost ALL of the most important fights in the last 6 years except the one against a disabled person ? Besides, Trout and Lara arguably defeated Canelo.

Who does GGG need to beat "to earn his reputation" ? He is ready to fight any other MW champion or another top fighter who can be on HBO.
Although Ward is at 175 now, it would help GGG to beat him and the likes of a Kovalev to earn his due. It's no different than when fans were asking Floyd to move up to face Triple G, the same should be required of Golovkin.

Fair is fair, although I know that fans who aren't objective enough to admit this.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 01:17
by Tanzio
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
RandomUsername wrote:GGG has never fought anyone. Compare that to Canelo who fought Mayweather and beat Cotto. GGG needs to earn his reputation the WBC can't simply rank it up for him.
Yep, Canelo earned his "reputation" by beating smaller fighters. Cotto was likely 12 pounds lighter than him yesterday. And who is Cotto ? The fighter who lost ALL of the most important fights in the last 6 years except the one against a disabled person ? Besides, Trout and Lara arguably defeated Canelo.

Who does GGG need to beat "to earn his reputation" ? He is ready to fight any other MW champion or another top fighter who can be on HBO.
Although Ward is at 175 now, it would help GGG to beat him and the likes of a Kovalev to earn his due. It's no different than when fans were asking Floyd to move up to face Triple G, the same should be required of Golovkin.

Fair is fair, although I know that fans who aren't objective enough to admit this.
FMJ didn't fight 3G, turB.

Re: Why do some boxing fans and writers dislike Gennady Golovkin?

Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 01:23
by ikorolev
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
RandomUsername wrote:GGG has never fought anyone. Compare that to Canelo who fought Mayweather and beat Cotto. GGG needs to earn his reputation the WBC can't simply rank it up for him.
Yep, Canelo earned his "reputation" by beating smaller fighters. Cotto was likely 12 pounds lighter than him yesterday. And who is Cotto ? The fighter who lost ALL of the most important fights in the last 6 years except the one against a disabled person ? Besides, Trout and Lara arguably defeated Canelo.

Who does GGG need to beat "to earn his reputation" ? He is ready to fight any other MW champion or another top fighter who can be on HBO.
Although Ward is at 175 now, it would help GGG to beat him and the likes of a Kovalev to earn his due. It's no different than when fans were asking Floyd to move up to face Triple G, the same should be required of Golovkin.

Fair is fair, although I know that fans who aren't objective enough to admit this.
Golovkin was ready to meet Floyd in the middle, at 154, which is the weight where Floyd was a champion. The middle between Golovkin and Kovalev/Ward is 168 where he has never fought to say nothing of holding a belt. Nevertheless, after unifying MW, Golovkin would likely want to take those fights, but will Kovalev and Ward even be able to make 168 and remain competitive ?