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Boxing has too many weight classes, too many belts and too many sanctioning bodies.

What I like about UFC is that the sport has only 8 weight classes and 1 belt per class and one sanctioning body. Boxing just seems cluttered with fighters bouncing up and down weight divisions for the easiest "title(s)" offered by various sanctioned bodies. Boxing should take a page from UFC; 8 weight classes, 8 Belts ,One sanctioning body.

That is all.

Isn't the UFC a sanctioning body itself? I'm sure there's other organisations who sanction MMA fights.

UFC is top dog and it helps Dana White is smart enough to buy out competitors. Regardless there are too many belts and weight classes in boxing even if you take sanctioning bodies out of the equation.

Allways said that, it should be more like kickboxing, there they have like 16 guys that join a tournament, one fight 8 left, two fights 4 left, 3rth fight 2 left and after 4 fights you got the winner.
That way you can't avoid better boxers, like Deontay Wilder does all the time. At this moment it takes years and years and years before you can even get into a fight, no matter how good you are.

DrunkenBoxer wrote:has only 8 weight classes and 8 belts per class

wouldn't that be one belt per class?
not even sure on the women's side if they even have 8 total fighters.
let's face it, mma is in it's infancy. no real professional sport can have
someone with no competition experience in it, amateur or pro, win a
world pro title in 5 or 6 total matches and only a few years of participation
in the sport. the number of total mma professionals is miniscule and
the number who actually make a living off of fighting alone each year
is probably less than 10 in the world. also, the following is more like a
weird cult than any real sport, especially the way they can't let a few
sentences be spoken about boxing without butting in and blabbing about
how some dude dry humped somebody for 15 minutes in ufc 21,000 the
other day on spike tv.

sucracristo wrote:

DrunkenBoxer wrote:has only 8 weight classes and 8 belts per class

wouldn't that be one belt per class?
not even sure on the women's side if they even have 8 total fighters.
let's face it, mma is in it's infancy. no real professional sport can have
someone with no competition experience in it, amateur or pro, win a
world pro title in 5 or 6 total matches and only a few years of participation
in the sport. the number of total mma professionals is miniscule and
the number who actually make a living off of fighting alone each year
is probably less than 10 in the world. also, the following is more like a
weird cult than any real sport, especially the way they can't let a few
sentences be spoken about boxing without butting in and blabbing about
how some dude dry humped somebody for 15 minutes in ufc 21,000 the
other day on spike tv.

x2, its wrestling for hipsters

I agree that we have too many sanctioning bodies, but disagree about weight classes. If we have too many of those, why do some boxers still want to do catch weights ?

ikorolev wrote:I agree that we have too many sanctioning bodies, but disagree about weight classes. If we have too many of those, why do some boxers still want to do catch weights ?

if anything ufc has so few divisions because of the shallow talent pool.
if the ufc had as many divisions as in boxing, literally each contracted ufc fighter would
have his own title in his own personal division, and the women would have 3 division
titles each. i think k1 had no weight divisions for a long time and now only maybe 2 or 3?
this is because they can't afford or don't want to pay prize money for more divisions
and have to deal with the equivalent of whole separate tournaments when it doesn't
produce more revenue. ufc is just trying to do the bare minumum in order to sell the
product, keep the lion's share of the revenue, and put on a show with wwe production
values. it's just a show. it doesn't operate like any real sport

Yes, sorry. I meant one belt per class. I fixed it.

ikorolev wrote:I agree that we have too many sanctioning bodies, but disagree about weight classes. If we have too many of those, why do some boxers still want to do catch weights ?

I agree 100% with this view.

ikorolev wrote:I agree that we have too many sanctioning bodies, but disagree about weight classes. If we have too many of those, why do some boxers still want to do catch weights ?

Too much weight coddling in boxing. If there were only 8 weight classes you'd see less fighters trying to jump up or down two weight classes just to get an easy belt or a ranking friendly win in general.

Fly, Bantam, Feather, Light, Welter, Middle, Lt Heavy, and Heavy are enough weight classes.

DrunkenBoxer wrote:UFC is top dog and it helps Dana White is smart enough to buy out competitors. Regardless there are too many belts and weight classes in boxing even if you take sanctioning bodies out of the equation.

Go watch UFC then

Of course it needs a makeover, but the fans make no such demands.

In fact, when I first came to this forum there were many
"boxing should do this" topics that were actually discussed.

Now, boxing fans have gone the way of "love it or leave it".

DrunkenBoxer wrote:

ikorolev wrote:I agree that we have too many sanctioning bodies, but disagree about weight classes. If we have too many of those, why do some boxers still want to do catch weights ?

Too much weight coddling in boxing. If there were only 8 weight classes you'd see less fighters trying to jump up or down two weight classes just to get an easy belt or a ranking friendly win in general.

Fly, Bantam, Feather, Light, Welter, Middle, Lt Heavy, and Heavy are enough weight classes.

Personally, I would like to see cruiserweight stay, as the heavyweights are so big. But the classes should be reduced. Think about all of the missed bouts we have had because of it.

Maybe someone like Dana White can form a UFC-type organization, though with a similar economic model to what it currently has.

Jpreisser wrote: I would like to see cruiserweight stay

160-175 is too much of a jump also, even though 168 and cruiser are the newest divisions.
someone having trouble making 160 getting matched with someone who drained
down to make 175 is a really big difference. i also think a lot of people who never
fought at the lighter weights don't appreciate the jump from light to welter, or feather
to light, without anything in between. those between divisions serve a legit purpose.
at some point in the amateurs they cut from 12 to 10, which was reasonable.

DrunkenBoxer wrote:Boxing has too many weight classes, too many belts and too many sanctioning bodies.

What I like about UFC is that the sport has only 8 weight classes and 1 belt per class and one sanctioning body. Boxing just seems cluttered with fighters bouncing up and down weight divisions for the easiest "title(s)" offered by various sanctioned bodies. Boxing should take a page from UFC; 8 weight classes, 8 Belts ,One sanctioning body.

That is all.

Just about everyone agrees with you and this because the waters get too messy with all these titles and the sanctioning bodies are the worse because most of them don't even recognize Champions or top fighters from other sanctioning bodies. How could any of this be fair when they won't even acknowledge other fighters more superior than their own?

DrunkenBoxer wrote:

ikorolev wrote:I agree that we have too many sanctioning bodies, but disagree about weight classes. If we have too many of those, why do some boxers still want to do catch weights ?

Too much weight coddling in boxing. If there were only 8 weight classes you'd see less fighters trying to jump up or down two weight classes just to get an easy belt or a ranking friendly win in general.

Fly, Bantam, Feather, Light, Welter, Middle, Lt Heavy, and Heavy are enough weight classes.

Agree but add Cruiser. . There is too great a difference between 175 lbs. and the 6-6" 245 lb. heavyweights.

Its because Boxing fans are some of the worst i've seen.

They fanboys are prepared to shitpost all night defending how someone "deserves more money or percentage of the PPVs".

They're completely oblvious as to how the likes of Mayweather and Pac don't give a shit about the fans in the long run, and live their own life.

Rather than encourage big fights, they rather defend questionable and shitt match ups made by their favorite fighter.

DrunkenBoxer wrote:Boxing has too many weight classes, too many belts and too many sanctioning bodies.

What I like about UFC is that the sport has only 8 weight classes and 1 belt per class and one sanctioning body. Boxing just seems cluttered with fighters bouncing up and down weight divisions for the easiest "title(s)" offered by various sanctioned bodies. Boxing should take a page from UFC; 8 weight classes, 8 Belts ,One sanctioning body.

That is all.

I've never read this suggested before....

Its been this way since year dot with people trying to change/improve the game with new ideas, and elements of boxing have evolved since its early beginnings but its done so slowly adding or taking away certain things over time so not to disrupt the overall landscape of the game too much, the things fans ask for will probably happen in time but prepare for things to get worse before they get better.

UFC has Ronda Rousey higher on the P4P list than Holly Holm even though Holm knocked her out. Dana White wants to keep the cash cow going and does not want to admit that she was exposed so there can be a lucrative rematch. In the weight class, Holm is champ with Rousey the No. 1 contender, so the UFC can't change that, but then to have Holm higher on a P4P list is favoritism. Is the UFC going to start having ridiculous rankings like boxing does?

...yes and bring back 15 round fights.

15 rounds and 5 minutes per round.

No....just the way it used to be, the championship rounds 13-15.