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Lets be honest, in Germany that fight was no foregone conclusion to go to Fury on the cards. He even said he thought he wasn't going to get it after the point was taken off. He didn't really go for the KO did he? He was happy to go to points (and possibly lose). I mean, in the circumstances - wlad at home, 5 fight deal signed, 50k+ stadium filler, Germany etc etc, Fury didn't really show me much by way of going for it. I did expect him to box long and for the fight to go the distance (I had wlad winning a decision) so I wasn't surprised but I wonder if anyone was surprised at Fury not really going for the KO and keeping it long, especially in the circumstances where a close fight could be a robbery. Ive seen worse fights called draws or even go to the home fighter.

Put it this way, Lewis against Vitali showed the heart I'm talking about. His back was against the wall and he genuinely went for Vitali and took punishment in the process. It was kind of like what Wlad didn't have the heart to do actually, since Lewis was the one who had to come forward like Wlad did.

Although we did see Lewis stink it out in the Tua fight and others. I just don't think he would have coasted like that and left himself possibly open to a robbery in Germany. He would have been trying to impose his advantage on 40 year old Wlad and bang him out.

Horse wrote:

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Fury was clearly trying to take Klitschko out in the last few rounds. Wladimir, very much like his brother versus Lewis, ended the fight clinging on for dear life.

First person I've seen who had Wlad as winner! Boulder dash!

Stuarty30 wrote:First person I've seen who had Wlad as winner! Boulder dash!

ooops, i meant I had wlad winning as my prediction. Fury won the fight for me

would we all have been shocked if Wlad got the decision? Wlad was favourite with the bookies just before the cards were announced. not saying he deserved it but fury could have got robbed. He didn't go for it enough for me. Makes me think Haye could nick a boring fight against him. He still won though.

TheLeprechaun wrote:would we all have been shocked if Wlad got the decision? Wlad was favourite with the bookies just before the cards were announced

This is boxing, of course I wouldn't have been surprised if Wladimir had won that via robbery.

Fury was hardly exposed though, was he? Let's not be daft here.

TheLeprechaun wrote:would we all have been shocked if Wlad got the decision? Wlad was favourite with the bookies just before the cards were announced. not saying he deserved it but fury could have got robbed. He didn't go for it enough for me. Makes me think Haye could nick a boring fight against him. He still won though.

I think most folk would have felt slightly violated if Wlad got that decision last night but after the initial shock would've just thought 'feckin Germany'

Horse wrote:

TheLeprechaun wrote:would we all have been shocked if Wlad got the decision? Wlad was favourite with the bookies just before the cards were announced

This is boxing, of course I wouldn't have been surprised if Wladimir had won that via robbery.

Fury was hardly exposed though, was he? Let's not be daft here.

I'm with you Horse. Fury was far from exposed. He did what he had to do to win. He found a way to win. He did. Exposed my arse.

Arse raped? Yes. Surprised? No.

Fury is the first born and bred Brit to be the no 1 heavyweight since Bob Fitzsimmons.

Coco wrote:Fury is the first born and bred Brit to be the no 1 heavyweight since Bob Fitzsimmons.

Fitzsimmons grew up in New Zealand, where he learned to fight. Similar to how Lewis grew up in Canada, where he trained to fight. Fury could be said to be our first true world heavyweight champion.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

Coco wrote:Fury is the first born and bred Brit to be the no 1 heavyweight since Bob Fitzsimmons.

Fitzsimmons grew up in New Zealand, where he learned to fight. Similar to how Lewis grew up in Canada, where he trained to fight. Fury could be said to be our first true world heavyweight champion.

what about Bruno and haye

When Bruno was champ Foreman was lineal and Bowe considered the man. When Haye was champ Klit was considered the man.

Tuan_Jim wrote:When Bruno was champ Foreman was lineal and Bowe considered the man. When Haye was champ Klit was considered the man.

Bruno beat McCall who beat lewis who was the man

stevedoc wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:When Bruno was champ Foreman was lineal and Bowe considered the man. When Haye was champ Klit was considered the man.

Bruno beat McCall who beat lewis who was the man

Your memory is off. Lewis was not recognised as the man in 94 and certainly not in 95.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

stevedoc wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:When Bruno was champ Foreman was lineal and Bowe considered the man. When Haye was champ Klit was considered the man.

Bruno beat McCall who beat lewis who was the man

Your memory is off. Lewis was not recognised as the man in 94 and certainly not in 95.

maybe :)

Exposed? I thought Fury made it look easy. I've said for a long time on here that I don't rate Wlad all that highly and that he's a lot of natural advantages over his opposition, but I didn't think Fury was the man to beat him but I'm happy to be wrong. To think Fury was somewhat exposed is bizarre to me, I was thoroughly impressed with his game plan and his execution of it, he went to a fighters backyard and fought him in a way where he didn't let the very experience champion settle into his usual game plan and kept him so apprehensive he barely threw his main weapon, that to me is anything other than exposed, it was excellent.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

Coco wrote:Fury is the first born and bred Brit to be the no 1 heavyweight since Bob Fitzsimmons.

Fitzsimmons grew up in New Zealand, where he learned to fight. Similar to how Lewis grew up in Canada, where he trained to fight. Fury could be said to be our first true world heavyweight champion.

Doesn't Fury claim to be born in Ireland?

Fury almost KNOCKED OUT Klitschko in the 11th round.. Give the guy credit.. WHAT ELSE IS HE SUPPOSED TO DO?

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:

Coco wrote:Fury is the first born and bred Brit to be the no 1 heavyweight since Bob Fitzsimmons.

Fitzsimmons grew up in New Zealand, where he learned to fight. Similar to how Lewis grew up in Canada, where he trained to fight. Fury could be said to be our first true world heavyweight champion.

Doesn't Fury claim to be born in Ireland?

Interesting, didn't know that. If that's the case then we might have to wait another century.

TheLeprechaun wrote:would we all have been shocked if Wlad got the decision? Wlad was favourite with the bookies just before the cards were announced. not saying he deserved it but fury could have got robbed. He didn't go for it enough for me. Makes me think Haye could nick a boring fight against him. He still won though.

I agree. It was a horrible, horrible fight. Easily the worst heavyweight title fight I've ever seen.

Here's the thing... Wlad was there for the taking but Fury showed little inclination to get a decisive win.

People are talking about this as a great victory, but this was two big lumps afraid of letting their hands go for 12 rounds of inaction. Haye said after two rounds that Wlad was shot and he was right. Fury lambasted Haye's performance against Wlad, but here was Fury against a declined version of that same fighter, trying to fiddle his way to victory on the backfoot. Sure, he got the win. But he left a lot to chance.

I'm surprised at the lack of negative comments regarding this fight. It was a dismal advert for heavyweight boxing.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote: Fitzsimmons grew up in New Zealand, where he learned to fight. Similar to how Lewis grew up in Canada, where he trained to fight. Fury could be said to be our first true world heavyweight champion.

Doesn't Fury claim to be born in Ireland?

Interesting, didn't know that. If that's the case then we might have to wait another century.

I'm claiming him Lord Jim.

It's Ruby Robert (born here, never fought here), Lennox (born here, fought here) and now Fury (maybe born here, lives and fights here). That's the list. Bruno, Hide et al are pretenders.