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Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 17:06
by handsofstone
Boxing being boxing always has to confuse things by having up to 3 names for the same division sometimes,for instance Light Welterweight,Jr Welterweight and Super Lightweight
Me personally and probably most on here have always used the British catagories but i noticed recently Super Lightweight and Super Welterweight creeping in when UK cards have been on then i read last week Tyrone Nurse saying he has to wait on his British title arriving because their changing it from Light Welter to Super Light
Might be better in the long run and less confusing to fans getting into the sport,still i thought the BBBoC would stick to their own names
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 17:33
by stujones
Agree and please correct me if I am wrong is it on "Super Lightweight" for a couple/few of the world sanctioning bodies and not universal in the states etc.
I'm pretty sure the likes of Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant will always refer to it as Junior Welterweight as would Buffer/Lennon Jnr in their introduction - unless it is for a world title which the governing body call it "Super Lightweight".
It is Light Welter, Jnr Welter is bearable.... Super Light - NO!!!!
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 17:45
by handsofstone
stujones wrote:Agree and please correct me if I am wrong is it on "Super Lightweight" for a couple/few of the world sanctioning bodies and not universal in the states etc.
I'm pretty sure the likes of Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant will always refer to it as Junior Welterweight as would Buffer/Lennon Jnr in their introduction - unless it is for a world title which the governing body call it "Super Lightweight".
It is Light Welter, Jnr Welter is bearable.... Super Light - NO!!!!
Yeah im pretty sure different orgs call it certain names but im not 100%
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 05:00
by grub
handsofstone wrote:stujones wrote:Agree and please correct me if I am wrong is it on "Super Lightweight" for a couple/few of the world sanctioning bodies and not universal in the states etc.
I'm pretty sure the likes of Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant will always refer to it as Junior Welterweight as would Buffer/Lennon Jnr in their introduction - unless it is for a world title which the governing body call it "Super Lightweight".
It is Light Welter, Jnr Welter is bearable.... Super Light - NO!!!!
Yeah im pretty sure different orgs call it certain names but im not 100%
They do indeed: WBA and WBC - Super Lightweight, WBO and IBF - Junior Welterweight. I've always gone for Light Welter myself.
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 05:02
by Boxerbeetle
As if the fragmented world title scene wasn't already confusing enough...
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Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 05:12
by keirw
I've always found use of the pre-fix 'junior' to be cringeworthy. So although the change is probably someone in an office somewhere creating work for themselves to avoid getting laid off, if it removes the 'junior' from the divisions names then I can't complain too much.
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 09:27
by steve689
Good spot. I've also noticed super-lightweight creeping in a few times on Sky lately.
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 09:50
by reggaereggae
Oh I can't stand the 'super' and 'junior' prefixes.... Also globally, when you have a WBA or whatever 'super champion', at super lightweight, what do you call him?
The 'super super lightweight champion" or the 'super lightweight super champion'? Either sounds ridiculous.
Light middle, light welter etc are the correct titles in the UK. We have to say Super Middle however as light light heavyweight title sounds silly....or maybe we call it 'Heavy middleweight' or 'Large Middlewwight'
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Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 10:07
by black panther
Problem is you can't call a super featherweight a light-lightweight
But I agree light-welterweight, light-middleweight etc are the division names I prefer am accustomed to.
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 17:33
by handsofstone
reggaereggae wrote:Oh I can't stand the 'super' and 'junior' prefixes.... Also globally, when you have a WBA or whatever 'super champion', at super lightweight, what do you call him?
The 'super super lightweight champion" or the 'super lightweight super champion'? Either sounds ridiculous.
Light middle, light welter etc are the correct titles in the UK. We have to say Super Middle however as light light heavyweight title sounds silly....or maybe we call it 'Heavy middleweight' or 'Large Middlewwight'
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Reggae your post gave me a migrane :(
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 17:37
by Rexob
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 18:34
by reggaereggae
handsofstone wrote:reggaereggae wrote:Oh I can't stand the 'super' and 'junior' prefixes.... Also globally, when you have a WBA or whatever 'super champion', at super lightweight, what do you call him?
The 'super super lightweight champion" or the 'super lightweight super champion'? Either sounds ridiculous.
Light middle, light welter etc are the correct titles in the UK. We have to say Super Middle however as light light heavyweight title sounds silly....or maybe we call it 'Heavy middleweight' or 'Large Middlewwight'
![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Reggae your post gave me a migrane :(
lol sorry mate..... I guess it just shows the craziness of pro boxing weights
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 18:37
by handsofstone
reggaereggae wrote:handsofstone wrote:reggaereggae wrote:Oh I can't stand the 'super' and 'junior' prefixes.... Also globally, when you have a WBA or whatever 'super champion', at super lightweight, what do you call him?
The 'super super lightweight champion" or the 'super lightweight super champion'? Either sounds ridiculous.
Light middle, light welter etc are the correct titles in the UK. We have to say Super Middle however as light light heavyweight title sounds silly....or maybe we call it 'Heavy middleweight' or 'Large Middlewwight'
![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Reggae your post gave me a migrane :(
lol sorry mate..... I guess it just shows the craziness of pro boxing weights

It is ludicrous
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 19:13
by TheGman
Light welter all the way,jnr welter is too american and super light is just stupid like most of the ppl who run the bbbc :-)
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 09:03
by johnswan1
thechump wrote:Light welter all the way,jnr welter is too american and super light is just stupid like most of the ppl who run the bbbc :-)
Do you say Super Featherweight or Light Lightweight?
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 10:33
by TheGman
johnswan1 wrote:thechump wrote:Light welter all the way,jnr welter is too american and super light is just stupid like most of the ppl who run the bbbc :-)
Do you say Super Featherweight or Light Lightweight?
Av a read again and u tell me what i wrote cause i can see what i wrote and its neither of what u asked
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 10:35
by johnswan1
thechump wrote:johnswan1 wrote:thechump wrote:Light welter all the way,jnr welter is too american and super light is just stupid like most of the ppl who run the bbbc :-)
Do you say Super Featherweight or Light Lightweight?
Av a read again and u tell me what i wrote cause i can see what i wrote and its neither of what u asked
I already quoted what you wrote, are you too stupid to read it?
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 10:40
by TheGman
johnswan1 wrote:thechump wrote:Light welter all the way,jnr welter is too american and super light is just stupid like most of the ppl who run the bbbc :-)
Do you say Super Featherweight or Light Lightweight?
Whoops my apologies

i say super feather lol
Re: Weight divisions changing their names in UK
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 14:30
by magnus
The BBBofC decided some months ago that they would be using the names "Super Welterweight" and "Super Lightweight" instead of light-middle and light-welter. I think there was an article in BN about it, with Robert Smith explaining why. I can't remember the exact reason, but think it was something about falling into line with WBC etc.