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Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 19:44
by tiny_acres
Eddie Hearn is wanting to match his prospect Anthony Joshua against new champ Tyson Fury
this coming summer.
I personally think that is rushing things for Joshua.Joshua appear to have more talent than any other
prospect at the moment,but has a very weak resume for someone challenging for a world title.
I am beginning to wonder if Hearn knows something about Joshua that we don't and is trying to cash out in what would be a monster payday in England.
Or is Hearn that confident in Joshua that he is willing to risk his big meal ticket against the champ?
Thoughts?
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 20:03
by gilgamesh
He'd knock out Fury I think. Though it may still be too early for him to handle the pressure of being Champion, and all the competition he'd be facing afterward.
Dillian Whyte in a few weeks will be his biggest test to date, so I look forward to how he looks there.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 20:15
by tiny_acres
The Revival wrote:He'd knock out Fury I think. Though it may still be too early for him to handle the pressure of being Champion, and all the competition he'd be facing afterward.
Dillian Whyte in a few weeks will be his biggest test to date, so I look forward to how he looks there.
I just think it is too early.I would wait if I was his management.Build the interest in all markets and capitalize on a huge payoff when he was slightly more seasoned.
I know he looks like a beast right now but how is he going to handle going more than a couple of rounds?
How is he going to handle hitting someone who will actually be looking to win and not survive?
Like I said I think it is just too soon
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 20:17
by Ricky_
Why is it too early?
2 years ago Fury won a UD vs Kevin Johnson
Joshua recently destroyed KJ in a matter of minutes.
What "levels" did Fury progress through since KJ?
Steve Cruiserweight Cunningham
Joey

Abell
Dereck Featherfist Chisora
Christain Hammer
That was Fury's path to the title shot.
Now would anyone give any of those opponents a chance vs Joshua?? Would any of those 4 names take him past 2 rounds?
While there are levels in boxing, the Heavyweight division is horribly devoid of talent Joshua is already at the level he needs to be to win a world title. Infact the only fighter in that above list ranked higher than Joshua on boxrec is Cunningham (who surely retains cruiserweight points??).
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 20:21
by gilgamesh
Ricky_ wrote:Why is it too early?
2 years ago Fury won a UD vs Kevin Johnson
Joshua recently destroyed KJ in a matter of minutes.
What "levels" did Fury progress through since KJ?
Steve Cruiserweight Cunningham
Joey

Abell
Dereck Featherfist Chisora
Christain Hammer
That was Fury's path to the title shot.
Now would anyone give any of those opponents a chance vs Joshua?? Would any of those 4 names take him past 2 rounds?
While there are levels in boxing, the Heavyweight division is horribly devoid of talent Joshua is already at the level he needs to be to win a world title. Infact the only fighter in that above list ranked higher than Joshua on boxrec is Cunningham (who surely retains cruiserweight points??).
Yeah he doesn't belong ranked ahead of Joshua IMO.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 02:32
by diddy
Joshua is ready.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 09:10
by dominik
diddy wrote:Joshua is ready.
yeah. AJ is not that Young anymore too, he is 26 years old. that is still Young for a HW but not super Young either, klitschko won his first title at Age 24, most greats tend to win their first title before they are 25. why must any fighter wait until they are 30 before they fight for a belt?
AJ had a Long Amateur career and he is not going to get much better than he is now. have him fight a fringe contender like chisora after whyte and if he does well give him that Championship fight.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 09:24
by Yes We Can
dominik wrote:diddy wrote:Joshua is ready.
yeah. AJ is not that Young anymore too, he is 26 years old. that is still Young for a HW but not super Young either, klitschko won his first title at Age 24, most greats tend to win their first title before they are 25. why must any fighter wait until they are 30 before they fight for a belt?
AJ had a Long Amateur career and he is not going to get much better than he is now. have him fight a fringe contender like chisora after whyte and if he does well give him that Championship fight.
Successful? incredibly. Long? not at all. Joshua had a short and phenomenal boxing career in the ams, and only started boxing age 17 i think.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 09:35
by Roars Like Me
Let's see how the Whyte fight goes first. I still remember Bruno/Cummings

Lots of boxers go through their indestructible period followed by it's just a 'set back' period. AJ isn't' going to KO everyone and retire with all the belts and an unblemished record that's for sure. To answer whether he's ready for Tyson I don't think so personally, If he had fought Wlad on Saturday, Wlad would still be champ today.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 09:44
by stevedoc
i think fury would beat joshua with out much trouble at the moment don't get me wrong AJ could take him out in the 1st if he lands but i have a feeling fury is one of those fighters that is much harder to beat than he looks plus fury won't stand in front of AJ he'd be moving constantly and how will AJ be after 6 rounds we don't know yet ,i think it would be stupid to throw AJ in yet till he's fought someone that's more than a punch bag
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 09:46
by palooka
It's as if David Price had never boxed.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 10:40
by Roars Like Me
We haven't seen a tired Joshua yet either, for all we know he could be blowing out of his arse after 4 rounds, having not made it that far yet. That much bulk too doesn't equate to staying power for me. Mid to late rounds with someone like Fury leaning on him, tiring him out him out would make for an easy KO.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 11:07
by Tanzio
Too early for Joshua. He would have a chance of winning but a stronger chance of being dragged into deep water and drowned by The King of the Hill.
What's the hurry? He needs rounds. Two years from today might make sense.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 11:12
by Counter-puncher
tiny_acres wrote:Eddie Hearn is wanting to match his prospect Anthony Joshua against new champ Tyson Fury
this coming summer.
I personally think that is rushing things for Joshua.Joshua appear to have more talent than any other
prospect at the moment,but has a very weak resume for someone challenging for a world title.
I am beginning to wonder if Hearn knows something about Joshua that we don't and is trying to cash out in what would be a monster payday in England.
Or is Hearn that confident in Joshua that he is willing to risk his big meal ticket against the champ?
Thoughts?
we call him Camp Eddie Hearn, just so you know...
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 11:18
by Chepppaaa
tiny_acres wrote:Eddie Hearn is wanting to match his prospect Anthony Joshua against new champ Tyson Fury
this coming summer.
I personally think that is rushing things for Joshua.Joshua appear to have more talent than any other
prospect at the moment,but has a very weak resume for someone challenging for a world title.
I am beginning to wonder if Hearn knows something about Joshua that we don't and is trying to cash out in what would be a monster payday in England.
Or is Hearn that confident in Joshua that he is willing to risk his big meal ticket against the champ?
Thoughts?
record doesnt mean anything.
joshua fought better opponents at the amateurs high level than arguably fury did in the pros
josh beats fury. wilder beats them all.
1. wilder
2. joshua
3. ortiz
these are the 3 best heavyweights in the world. mr shubby x leg is totaly overrated at that moment, just because he beat up a z level technician.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 11:24
by Taansend
Roars Like Me wrote:Let's see how the Whyte fight goes first. I still remember Bruno/Cummings

Lots of boxers go through their indestructible period followed by it's just a 'set back' period. AJ isn't' going to KO everyone and retire with all the belts and an unblemished record that's for sure.
Well said. It's still too early to tell how good Joshua is. HE knows that. That's why he is working so hard to better himself.
2016 should be the year where he fights some top level and DURABLE opponents.
Then we'll know more.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 11:37
by afcmarshall
AJ has to make sure he stays focused on the Whyte fight and win that first. But if he does get the ko and early I cant see many wanting to fight him
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 11:57
by MarkMcBurney
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 12:20
by Nightmare Roy
Chepppaaa wrote:tiny_acres wrote:Eddie Hearn is wanting to match his prospect Anthony Joshua against new champ Tyson Fury
this coming summer.
I personally think that is rushing things for Joshua.Joshua appear to have more talent than any other
prospect at the moment,but has a very weak resume for someone challenging for a world title.
I am beginning to wonder if Hearn knows something about Joshua that we don't and is trying to cash out in what would be a monster payday in England.
Or is Hearn that confident in Joshua that he is willing to risk his big meal ticket against the champ?
Thoughts?
record doesnt mean anything.
joshua fought better opponents at the amateurs high level than arguably fury did in the pros
josh beats fury. wilder beats them all.
1. wilder
2. joshua
3. ortiz
these are the 3 best heavyweights in the world. mr shubby x leg is totaly overrated at that moment, just because he beat up a z level technician.
Joshua would have beaten Wilder on his pro debut IMO.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 12:26
by MarkMcBurney
Nightmare Roy wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:tiny_acres wrote:Eddie Hearn is wanting to match his prospect Anthony Joshua against new champ Tyson Fury
this coming summer.
I personally think that is rushing things for Joshua.Joshua appear to have more talent than any other
prospect at the moment,but has a very weak resume for someone challenging for a world title.
I am beginning to wonder if Hearn knows something about Joshua that we don't and is trying to cash out in what would be a monster payday in England.
Or is Hearn that confident in Joshua that he is willing to risk his big meal ticket against the champ?
Thoughts?
record doesnt mean anything.
joshua fought better opponents at the amateurs high level than arguably fury did in the pros
josh beats fury. wilder beats them all.
1. wilder
2. joshua
3. ortiz
these are the 3 best heavyweights in the world. mr shubby x leg is totaly overrated at that moment, just because he beat up a z level technician.
Joshua would have beaten Wilder on his pro debut IMO.
Most of the top 10 would have a genuine chance against Wilder...
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 12:27
by Nightmare Roy
Yeah that's why he won't fight any of them.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 12:29
by palooka
Nightmare Roy wrote:Yeah that's why he won't fight any of them.

nail on the head there Roy, no way Wilder would have got in with Wlad.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 12:38
by davie
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 12:41
by davie
tiny_acres wrote:Eddie Hearn is wanting to match his prospect Anthony Joshua against new champ Tyson Fury
this coming summer.
I personally think that is rushing things for Joshua.Joshua appear to have more talent than any other
prospect at the moment,but has a very weak resume for someone challenging for a world title.
I am beginning to wonder if Hearn knows something about Joshua that we don't and is trying to cash out in what would be a monster payday in England.
Or is Hearn that confident in Joshua that he is willing to risk his big meal ticket against the champ?
Thoughts?
I think Camp Eddie Hearns thinking is along the lines of
££££££££££££££££££
But aside from that he will look at it and think even if AJ loses it is likely to be a points loss that will not be too damaging to AJ, there will be a possible money spinning rematch
And he won't want to wait and build it up in case Fury loses and the opportunity to make all that lovely £££ passes him by.
Re: Eddie Hearn wants Joshua - Fury
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 12:48
by MarkMcBurney
My mistake Davie.
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