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i really don't know i can't believe wlad will be that bad again but normally in these type of rematches it's the same result but more convincing ,and furys size reach and speed will always trouble wlad . i could see a ko either way

stevedoc wrote:i really don't know i can't believe wlad will be that bad again but normally in these type of rematches it's the same result but more convincing ,and furys size reach and speed will always trouble wlad . i could see a ko either way

I think Wlad has a couple of advantages in a rematch:

Fitness.... i font think Wlad was fit. Vitali all but said it. I think Wlad has too much class to make excuses like Haye did but i think there was something not right.

Rimg IQ.... wlad is a much smarter man than his opponent who's as dumb as a box of rocks. He spoke about how he and Manny Steward would spend hours scrutinizing opponents tapes. Fury may think "more of the same" but Wlad will surely formulate an entirely diffetent gameplan.

It may also be the case Fury gets complacent in the rematch.

The fight plays out pretty much as the last, Vlad looking completely lost but this time Fury is full of confidence, more aggressive and stops him around rd 9

If Fury tries to impress his fans and goes for KO, he gets KO'ed himself. But if he uses the same tactics he did last Saturday he will beat Wlad again and probably even easier.

Fury will likely win again if he boxes in disciplined manner, which he's done well (in a Wlad-like way) over his last three fights. However, if he gets overly confident due to his win and opens up significantly more, while Wlad ups the aggression and fights more passionately due to the circumstances, I wouldn't be shocked to see Wlad win.

I suspect that it will probably be a Fury repeat though. At nearly 40 I don't think Wlad pulls the trigger well enough and he's reminding me of Vitali near the end of his career.

For the first fight I said Wlad KO in rounds 5-6. I was wrong. I still see Fury getting stopped mind if he goes out swinging.

Wlad will not overly expose his chin which could get him knocked out.
So, if Fury returns fit and with the same movement and patience, he wins.
If Fury comes in fat or too aggressive, because he bought his own BS, he loses.
I think it's up to Fury. Wlad can't change much or he will risk getting KO'd.

My thought is more of a guess. Others on here are omniscient. But my guess Fury by KO.

Based on Wlad ain't getting any younger and Fury will be more confident this time.

Ricky_ wrote:

stevedoc wrote:i really don't know i can't believe wlad will be that bad again but normally in these type of rematches it's the same result but more convincing ,and furys size reach and speed will always trouble wlad . i could see a ko either way

I think Wlad has a couple of advantages in a rematch:

Fitness.... i font think Wlad was fit. Vitali all but said it. I think Wlad has too much class to make excuses like Haye did but i think there was something not right.

Rimg IQ.... wlad is a much smarter man than his opponent who's as dumb as a box of rocks. He spoke about how he and Manny Steward would spend hours scrutinizing opponents tapes. Fury may think "more of the same" but Wlad will surely formulate an entirely diffetent gameplan.

It may also be the case Fury gets complacent in the rematch.

I think this is pretty accurate.
It's unlikely (maybe even impossible) that Wlad'd do worse in a rematch; it's fairly likely he'd do better. Maybe not Ali-Spinks II better, but probably something like Holmes-Spinks II better.

The rematch will be announced etc and then Wlad will pull out injured and will not fight again, his heart was clearly not in it the first time and/or Fury had really got to him. Thw problems of life will continue for Wlad as a near middle aged man and he will not need the hassle, stress and strain of another camp.

It will take a year to organize the fight, and Klitchko will be year older. Fury will get more confident and skillfull.

I believe, Fury by points, comfortably...

Don’t want to see any rematch, another bore fest as was the Holyfield-Ruiz trilogy. We are going to endure two years of this excitement.

bigman1968 wrote:It will take a year to organize the fight, and Klitchko will be year older. Fury will get more confident and skillfull.

I believe, Fury by points, comfortably...

Why a year? I'm sure the clause in the contract states 6-months. I think there will be a date set for spring 16 and straight back to camp for them.

I am really not sure, but I have tentatively gone for Wlad in a close decision. He will have seen the stats and will probably be in disbelief that he didn't throw more right hands - the big KO punches. However, will Wlad be able to deal with Fury's movement which essentially was his undoing. He is in a position that he hasn't been in for over a decade, and if the fight is in the UK then he knows that he will need to impress the judges.

As long as Fury doesn't get too cocky and full of himself along with anymore huge Nando's orders, he will win again.
You just can't be sure with Fury. I mean his fitness kept him in it at the end of that fight, if he cuts corners in training then it'll all be for nothing and Wald will be back in charge.

Klitschko opens as slight favorite in Fury rematch

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/klitsch ... tch-316131

bigman1968 wrote:It will take a year to organize the fight, and Klitchko will be year older. Fury will get more confident and skillfull.

I believe, Fury by points, comfortably...

Why did it take you a year to post that?

Random thoughts....


#1- If Klitschko thinks conditioning played a part in his loss to Fury, he could be twice the athlete he was in the fight, and it wouldn't make a difference if he doesn't change his tactics

#2- If Klitschko is convinced Fury is weak chinned, and decides to be more aggressive than he has in years, I think he's taking a really big gamble because he has NEVER been good at infighting and will just expose his own chin (the Klitschko of the early years was far and away more aggressive, and that is when he lost on kayos)

#3- If Klitschko decides to incorporate bodypunching to his arsenal and throw punches in bunches, after viewing all the tape, his chances will get better--- but he will be older, slower than before--- and at age 40 I am not sure he can fight round after round trying to break down Fury's defenses or keep up with him. He was sucking wind, playing it safe, with the lowest punch rate of his entire career after a few rounds. Can you imagine how gassed he will be throwing 40-50 or more punches a round?

Personally, I think Fury and his camp were smart in fighting the way they did. Peter didn't want Tyson to throw everything out there in that fight. Just to calmly box and get the job done. That way, Klitschko only anticipates fighting the version that beat him. When the reality is, Fury's full potential was never saw in Germany. Klitschko will have one idea in mind, when the reality is another.

It's heavyweight boxing so anyone could get ktfo, but odds are it will follow a similar pattern to the first fight. Wad retiring would've been a far better gift to Fury and boxing fans than announcing a rematch.

My biggest concern would be getting Fury back into the ring in shape. We've seen it before where a new and surprising champ hasn't been able to handle the good times and just looks horrible in the re-match or first defence. If Fury comes back in prime shape there is no reason he can't win again.

Klitschko is a smart guy. He's a doctor for Christ sake. He has to know the game plan of the first fight won't work any better the second time. He either gets a lot more aggressive and goes for the KO or he loses a decision again. Sure he may get himself knocked out in the process but what's a better plan? Get aggressive and maybe get a KO, and maybe get KO'd...or definitely lose another decision in a tactical fight fought from distance?

I just think Tyson is all wrong for Wlad, he's style, confidence, speed is all wrong for him. I would say Wlad is the bigger puncher, however if he gets in and slugs it out with Tyson, I think that will show Tyson off more. If the rematch happens I think Wlad will have a little more joy in getting in range, but not enough to win i don't think. My opinion at the moment is Tyson wins more closer than the 1st time.

Tyson barely had to use anything to outbox him already. There is maybe a 1% chance Vlad lands a miracle shot in a rematch. What in the world are some of you watching. Vlad by KO haha it was a fantasy the first time. This time it's just stupid, choosing stupidity.

diddy wrote:Klitschko is a smart guy. He's a doctor for Christ sake. He has to know the game plan of the first fight won't work any better the second time. He either gets a lot more aggressive and goes for the KO or he loses a decision again. Sure he may get himself knocked out in the process but what's a better plan? Get aggressive and maybe get a KO, and maybe get KO'd...or definitely lose another decision in a tactical fight fought from distance?

Wladimir Klitschko throwing punches. Welcome to 2003.