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jacobs is way more athletic than anybody ggg has ever faced, on top jacobs realy seems to have lemieaux kind of power. the combo of athletiscm, speed and power realy makes this prime jacobs dangerous. if jacobs comes gun blazing and lands some quick hard shots on ggg, than ggg would be in trouble. ggg would probably win, but jacobs is the real deal. canelo should stay away from him, thats for sure

If Jacobs comes out swinging like that against GGG I'll eat my hat.

If he does and survives more than 2 minutes I'll follow it up with my shoes

Chepppaaa wrote:jacobs is way more athletic than anybody ggg has ever faced, on top jacobs realy seems to have lemieaux kind of power. the combo of athletiscm, speed and power realy makes this prime jacobs dangerous. if jacobs comes gun blazing and lands some quick hard shots on ggg, than ggg would be in trouble. ggg would probably win, but jacobs is the real deal. canelo should stay away from him, thats for sure

Do you remember when Pirog flattened Jacobs?

victor-romeo wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:jacobs is way more athletic than anybody ggg has ever faced, on top jacobs realy seems to have lemieaux kind of power. the combo of athletiscm, speed and power realy makes this prime jacobs dangerous. if jacobs comes gun blazing and lands some quick hard shots on ggg, than ggg would be in trouble. ggg would probably win, but jacobs is the real deal. canelo should stay away from him, thats for sure

Do you remember when Pirog flattened Jacobs?

Hell, I remember one fight ago when that paragon of power punching, one Sergio Mora, had Jacobs on his ass.

And I am certain the same would have happened had Kid Chocolate been able to land anything.

Lil g will certainly find Danny's chin. The question is how will he take it or (if he cant) can he avoid getting hit flush.

The other side of the coin is that the guy we saw destroy Quillin last night is levels above anything Gennady has ever faced
(actually Quillin is too).

So yeah, it is a fight I hope to see and yeah it is a fight you'd favor Golovkin.

But not by prohibitive odds like most of the guys Gennady fights.

Pump the breaks people. Let's let Jacobs face Andy Lee or Saunders as that's more his speed. GGG's chin is world class and we all know that Quillin has been hurt in every fight he's been in. Let's face it, Quillin's time is done. He got the most of his career and had a fine career at that. But he's done now and comparing him to GGG is impossible to do as they are not even on the same planet in terms of talent

caldo2025 wrote:Pump the breaks people. Let's let Jacobs face Andy Lee or Saunders as that's more his speed. GGG's chin is world class and we all know that Quillin has been hurt in every fight he's been in. Let's face it, Quillin's time is done. He got the most of his career and had a fine career at that. But he's done now and comparing him to GGG is impossible to do as they are not even on the same planet in terms of talent

Agree with some of this.

But make no mistake, caldo.

Quillin is another level over anyone lil g has faced, maybe with the exception of Murray.

Jacobs has the right to claim he is the best middle in the world based on that win alone.

He may not be right but he DOES have a point.

You can be sure that we will never see that fight. Haymon will keep his asset away from GGG.

koolkc107 wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:Pump the breaks people. Let's let Jacobs face Andy Lee or Saunders as that's more his speed. GGG's chin is world class and we all know that Quillin has been hurt in every fight he's been in. Let's face it, Quillin's time is done. He got the most of his career and had a fine career at that. But he's done now and comparing him to GGG is impossible to do as they are not even on the same planet in terms of talent

Agree with some of this.

But make no mistake, caldo.

Quillin is another level over anyone lil g has faced, maybe with the exception of Murray.

Jacobs has the right to claim he is the best middle in the world based on that win alone.

He may not be right but he DOES have a point.

Lemieux would likely destroy Quillin as well as Jacobs, IMO.

Quillin was struggling with Rosado, for pete's sake. He would likely have troubles with any power puncher. By the way, Jacobs has the same trainer as Stevens.

I would rather see Jacobs vs Canelo

First round stoppages can often be misleading, wth an example being Jhonny Gonzalez blasting out then P4P ranked Mares even though he looked mediocre in his bouts shortly before (down against and clearly defeated by Ponce; getting dropped by and going to war with jouryneman Eusebio Osejo) and subsequently lost two of his next three bouts, including a defeat at the hands of middling Jonathan Oquendo, who looked like crap last night. Despite that overall line of form some lazy-minded commentators have concluded that Gary Russell, because he beat Gonzalez, would therefore beat Lomachenko in a rematch, even though the latter has vastly different attributes than Jhonny and handily beat Russell last year

Now Jacobs does have a good mix of speed and power, but I don't think he's any better than the fighter who got dropped by Mora or looked lackluster in going 12 against Truax. I also believe that he still has significant chin issues, having been stopped and dropped multiple times as an amateur, being hurt twice by blown-up Ishe Smith who was in the middle of a three fight losing streak, being flattened by average hitting Pirog, and being put on his ass by one shot from fairly light hitting Mora.

I don't believe that he'll be able to take many of GGG's shots, whereas I think GGG will be able to stand up to what he offers and is highly unlikely to be taken out before he can land anything, as was the case with Quillin, who unlike GGG had previously been hurt in multiple fights. I also don't think Jacobs is slick enough to avoid being caught with something big eventually, and I'd expect an outcome along the lines of Pirog-Jacobs.

Tanzio wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:Pump the breaks people. Let's let Jacobs face Andy Lee or Saunders as that's more his speed. GGG's chin is world class and we all know that Quillin has been hurt in every fight he's been in. Let's face it, Quillin's time is done. He got the most of his career and had a fine career at that. But he's done now and comparing him to GGG is impossible to do as they are not even on the same planet in terms of talent

Agree with some of this.

But make no mistake, caldo.

Quillin is another level over anyone lil g has faced, maybe with the exception of Murray.

Jacobs has the right to claim he is the best middle in the world based on that win alone.

He may not be right but he DOES have a point.

Lemieux would likely destroy Quillin as well as Jacobs, IMO.

No he wouldn't.

Quillin would never lose to guys like Alcine or Rubio and has done better against common opponents.

Again, Peter is another level from anyone lil g has faced not named Murray...and he is better than Murray too.

koolkc107 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:
Agree with some of this.

But make no mistake, caldo.

Quillin is another level over anyone lil g has faced, maybe with the exception of Murray.

Jacobs has the right to claim he is the best middle in the world based on that win alone.

He may not be right but he DOES have a point.

Lemieux would likely destroy Quillin as well as Jacobs, IMO.

No he wouldn't.

Quillin would never lose to guys like Alcine or Rubio and has done better against common opponents.

Again, Peter is another level from anyone lil g has faced not named Murray...and he is better than Murray too.

I (obviously) disagree. Hopefully we will find out who is correct.

I think Lemieux has improved while Quillin has regressed. I don't think Jacobs can standup to Lemieux's power.

I think the reality is, Quillin WAS better. He has lost that edge. What he's accomplished already has little bearing on what he will do now if he's lost the hunger for boxing. He just got destroyed in barely over a minute, by a big underdog. Nobody does that to a prime Quillin.

It sounds like he has moved more towards the faith side of life then the boxing side, more power to him.

koolkc107 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:
Agree with some of this.

But make no mistake, caldo.

Quillin is another level over anyone lil g has faced, maybe with the exception of Murray.

Jacobs has the right to claim he is the best middle in the world based on that win alone.

He may not be right but he DOES have a point.

Lemieux would likely destroy Quillin as well as Jacobs, IMO.

No he wouldn't.

Quillin would never lose to guys like Alcine or Rubio and has done better against common opponents.

Again, Peter is another level from anyone lil g has faced not named Murray...and he is better than Murray too.

Who are the common opponents? I know of Rosado, Guerrero, and N'dam, and I wouldn't say that overall PQ did better against them.

It's clear to me that Golovkin is the best at middleweight and I'd like to see Jacobs v Canelo or Cotto. I'm glad Quillan didn't take a bad beating, he's still up there. Middleweight is a prestige division and we have some prestige fighters around the weight. The sportsmanship of both Jacobs and Quillan needs noting and applauding, along with Golovkin, Alvarez, Cotto and Lee the middleweights are gentlemen fighters of top class.

Had Jacobs done the same thing to GGG in the first round, He would be knocked out inside the first minute of the fight by a HUGE counter.

GGG MURDERS Jacobs its not even a contest.

Aaronide_ger wrote:Had Jacobs done the same thing to GGG in the first round, He would be knocked out inside the first minute of the fight by a HUGE counter.

GGG MURDERS Jacobs its not even a contest.

If lil g got hit in the temple by Jacobs the way Quillin got hit, my money says he does the baby giraffe the same as Pete.

koolkc107 wrote:

Aaronide_ger wrote:Had Jacobs done the same thing to GGG in the first round, He would be knocked out inside the first minute of the fight by a HUGE counter.

GGG MURDERS Jacobs its not even a contest.

If lil g got hit in the temple by Jacobs the way Quillin got hit, my money says he does the baby giraffe the same as Pete.

Yeah the thing is though Jacobs is an American and American's don't like to fight these Euro's with the exception of a few. Americans are too busy these days finding the easy way out and the least interesting fight possible. Much like Wilder and all the 147 Americans.

Lancenix wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

Aaronide_ger wrote:Had Jacobs done the same thing to GGG in the first round, He would be knocked out inside the first minute of the fight by a HUGE counter.

GGG MURDERS Jacobs its not even a contest.

If lil g got hit in the temple by Jacobs the way Quillin got hit, my money says he does the baby giraffe the same as Pete.

Yeah the thing is though Jacobs is an American and American's don't like to fight these Euro's with the exception of a few. Americans are too busy these days finding the easy way out and the least interesting fight possible. Much like Wilder and all the 147 Americans.

Excepting Wlad, who on Tyson Fury's resume is better than Bermaine Stiverne?

No one that's who.

Hell, Stiverne beats Fury NOW.

And BTW, the Americans may not have the best group in every class, by I don't know what country has better welters.

victor-romeo wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:jacobs is way more athletic than anybody ggg has ever faced, on top jacobs realy seems to have lemieaux kind of power. the combo of athletiscm, speed and power realy makes this prime jacobs dangerous. if jacobs comes gun blazing and lands some quick hard shots on ggg, than ggg would be in trouble. ggg would probably win, but jacobs is the real deal. canelo should stay away from him, thats for sure

Do you remember when Pirog flattened Jacobs?

no shame in losing against piroq. p was a russian killer and when he landed clear on you, you were in trouble, anybody, even ggg.

Aaronide_ger wrote:Had Jacobs done the same thing to GGG in the first round, He would be knocked out inside the first minute of the fight by a HUGE counter.

GGG MURDERS Jacobs its not even a contest.

yall underestimate jacobs, that dude got a 88 % ko ratio, more than lemieaux, jacobs can hurt ggg, so can ggg hurt jacobs, both its a close fight, where i would favour ggg, but aside from 99 % of all others middleweight jacobs would have a great chance of actualy troubling ggg in a serious manner.

Chepppaaa wrote:

victor-romeo wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:jacobs is way more athletic than anybody ggg has ever faced, on top jacobs realy seems to have lemieaux kind of power. the combo of athletiscm, speed and power realy makes this prime jacobs dangerous. if jacobs comes gun blazing and lands some quick hard shots on ggg, than ggg would be in trouble. ggg would probably win, but jacobs is the real deal. canelo should stay away from him, thats for sure

Do you remember when Pirog flattened Jacobs?

no shame in losing against piroq. p was a russian killer and when he landed clear on you, you were in trouble, anybody, even ggg.

Pirog wasn't a major puncher.

Look at his other fights and you'll see that aside from Jacobs he didn't flatten anyone meaningful with one punch (and of course he also hurt Jacobs earlier in the fight). Danny has a history of chin problems going back to the amateurs and I think the nature of his loss to Pirog had at least as much to do with a lack of durability and is it did Pirog's power.

Chepppaaa wrote:

Aaronide_ger wrote:Had Jacobs done the same thing to GGG in the first round, He would be knocked out inside the first minute of the fight by a HUGE counter.

GGG MURDERS Jacobs its not even a contest.

yall underestimate jacobs, that dude got a 88 % ko ratio, more than lemieaux, jacobs can hurt ggg, so can ggg hurt jacobs, both its a close fight, where i would favour ggg, but aside from 99 % of all others middleweight jacobs would have a great chance of actualy troubling ggg in a serious manner.

So What? Rubio had 80%, Lemieux had 86% and was a real champion unlike Jacobs. Did you see them land anything? Just because Jacobs beat Quillin in 1 rnd doesnt mean he has the power to trouble GGG, He went 12 rounds with Truax recently.

Also you forget that GGG has a GRANITE chin unlike Peter Quillin and his defense is miles better than Peter too. MILES better, just look at the Lemieux fight how he used his shoulder to deflect punches, slipped punches well controlled distance, never let lemieux get on the inside.

Golovkin Knocks out Jacobs inside 3 rounds. with ZERO trouble.

koolkc107 wrote:

Lancenix wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:
If lil g got hit in the temple by Jacobs the way Quillin got hit, my money says he does the baby giraffe the same as Pete.

Yeah the thing is though Jacobs is an American and American's don't like to fight these Euro's with the exception of a few. Americans are too busy these days finding the easy way out and the least interesting fight possible. Much like Wilder and all the 147 Americans.

Excepting Wlad, who on Tyson Fury's resume is better than Bermaine Stiverne?

No one that's who.

Hell, Stiverne beats Fury NOW.

And BTW, the Americans may not have the best group in every class, by I don't know what country has better welters.

Stirvine beats Fury now? LOL