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Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 00:02
by Chepppaaa
1. rigondeaux
2. gonzales
3. golovkin
4. kovalev
5. lomachenko
6. lara
7. ward
8. crawford
9. canelo
10. pacquiao

11. walters
12. inoue
13. estrada
14. stevenson
15. spence jr
16. brook
17. wilder
18. usyk
19. cotto
20. santa cruz

21. beterbiev
22. thurman
23. bradley
24. valdez
25. russell jr
26. degale
27. garcia
28. uchiyama
29. jacobs
30. postol

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 12:56
by watsupdoc87
No Fury, but Wilder, hahahah

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 19:07
by Ricky_
Chepppaaa wrote:1. rigondeaux

:lol:

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 19:24
by The_Truth
watsupdoc87 wrote:No Fury, but Wilder, hahahah
This

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 21:22
by gilgamesh
Why would anyone have Rigondeaux #1? He barely fights, and his last 2 fights in the last 2 years have been against unknowns. Yeah he doesn't lose a round, so what? He's barely active as a professional, and his only truly noteworthy victory is over Donaire.

Rigondeaux deserves no higher than 5 at best on P4P list based on his most recent results, and inactive schedule.

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 07 Dec 2015, 22:00
by davie
As soon as I saw who started this thread my head was in my hands.
I could have predicted the outcome without opening the thread.

Where's good ol' Horse when you need him?

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 01:37
by Chepppaaa
The Revival wrote:Why would anyone have Rigondeaux #1? He barely fights, and his last 2 fights in the last 2 years have been against unknowns. Yeah he doesn't lose a round, so what? He's barely active as a professional, and his only truly noteworthy victory is over Donaire.

Rigondeaux deserves no higher than 5 at best on P4P list based on his most recent results, and inactive schedule.
no.

it is based on who beats who in a p4p sense.

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 05:46
by Ian1973
davie wrote:As soon as I saw who started this thread my head was in my hands.
I could have predicted the outcome without opening the thread.

Where's good ol' Horse when you need him?


Ha ha. Not just me then. :DD

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 06:18
by Chepppaaa
all you guys embarrased yourself when you had wlad as p4p #1 in the world, a man beaten by an overweighed x legged chump...bunch of non experts...

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 07:01
by Ricky_
Ian1973 wrote:
davie wrote:As soon as I saw who started this thread my head was in my hands.
I could have predicted the outcome without opening the thread.

Where's good ol' Horse when you need him?


Ha ha. Not just me then. :DD
I was just glad it wasn't horse.

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 16:13
by gilgamesh
Chepppaaa wrote:all you guys embarrased yourself when you had wlad as p4p #1 in the world, a man beaten by an overweighed x legged chump...bunch of non experts...
Nobody had Wlad #1. Nobody that I saw

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 18:18
by Kingfield
I'm guessing you picked them out of a hat?

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 19:31
by jezzamundo
With his inactivity, poor opposition of late and propensity to get knocked down, Rigo shouldn't definitely be below Gonzales.

GGG and Lomachenko are brilliant, but haven't yet beaten the kind of opposition necessary for such a high ranking.

Wilder shouldn't be in the top 100 p4p, he's athletically great, but technically poor and has fought a pretty terrible level of opposition.

Pacquiao, Bradley, Cotto and Postol should be higher.

I liked Horse's lists.

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 20:12
by Nightmare Roy
The_Truth wrote:
watsupdoc87 wrote:No Fury, but Wilder, hahahah
This
That!

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 00:25
by Chepppaaa
jezzamundo wrote:With his inactivity, poor opposition of late and propensity to get knocked down, Rigo shouldn't definitely be below Gonzales.

GGG and Lomachenko are brilliant, but haven't yet beaten the kind of opposition necessary for such a high ranking.

Wilder shouldn't be in the top 100 p4p, he's athletically great, but technically poor and has fought a pretty terrible level of opposition.

Pacquiao, Bradley, Cotto and Postol should be higher.

I liked Horse's lists.

jezza, to be honest, not much what you said made sense. i will tell you why.

you said, ggg and loma had not any quality name on their resume or rigo should not be very high, because he was inactive.
well, based on that criteria, than a lot of guys should not be high on the p4p list.

ward was super inactive in reascent time
brook & thurman didnt fight any big name
inoue didnt fought any big time name

so who should than be high on the list? feather fisted timmy, cause he beat old marquez some years ago. although anybody with sense knows the midget would get destroyed by thurman or spence. crawford, cause he beat on a litle guy (gamboa). limited, slow canelo, cause he beat old cotto.

my list makes perfectly sense. loma beat big names, orlando salido is a name opponent, on top the fu/(er came in as an welterweight. gary russell is a speedy quality opponent, he beat those guys, give him credit.

rigo is by far the best boxer in the world, regardless what he did in reascent time. regardless of he beat up an old timer like cotto, beating an quality opponent doesnt make you any faster, any stronger, any more skilled. either you are elite or you dont. canelo can beat all he wants, he will never be elite, he will always be a slow limited boxer, with a good punch, nothing more. he is not on the level of gonzales, lara, rigondeaux or loma!

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 00:32
by Chepppaaa
all u guys love to curry a favour, its so disgusting.

you had it all wrong with wlad #1 and so many other things and now you act like that never happened and try to ridicoule my very good p4p list. go make another golovkin thread you casual viewer non boxing experts.

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 05:45
by Kingfield
Chepppaaa wrote:all u guys love to curry a favour, its so disgusting.

you had it all wrong with wlad #1 and so many other things and now you act like that never happened and try to ridicoule my very good p4p list. go make another golovkin thread you casual viewer non boxing experts.
:lol:

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 08:11
by caldo2025
I was a little interested until I saw Rigo as #1. LMAOOO....come on man. Get serious.

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 08:12
by fightfan95
[quote="Chepppaaa"]1. rigondeaux
Name 5 boxers he has faced in the top 10? ok... name 3 boxers in the top 10? Still can't?
He is to in-active to be number one - yes, he is a very good boxer, but stick him in the ring with Frampton, Quigg, Flores etc and then he maybe can be put in the top 5 p4p.
My top 5 are:
GGG - just down to the fact he has been in with good people, and the power and skills this guy has got is incredible.
Kovalev - Since the Cleverly fight he has dominated Lightheavy!
Gonzalez
Andre Ward- At SMW he dominated it, nobody could touch him! I'm sure he will surprise a few at LHW
Canelo

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 08:19
by Chepppaaa
fightfan95 wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:1. rigondeaux
Name 5 boxers he has faced in the top 10? ok... name 3 boxers in the top 10? Still can't?
He is to in-active to be number one - yes, he is a very good boxer, but stick him in the ring with Frampton, Quigg, Flores etc and then he maybe can be put in the top 5 p4p.
My top 5 are:
GGG - just down to the fact he has been in with good people, and the power and skills this guy has got is incredible.
Kovalev - Since the Cleverly fight he has dominated Lightheavy!
Gonzalez
Andre Ward- At SMW he dominated it, nobody could touch him! I'm sure he will surprise a few at LHW
Canelo


you're born 95, u know shit about boxing. learn more and come back in some years.

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 08:29
by fightfan95
Chepppaaa wrote:
fightfan95 wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:1. rigondeaux
Name 5 boxers he has faced in the top 10? ok... name 3 boxers in the top 10? Still can't?
He is to in-active to be number one - yes, he is a very good boxer, but stick him in the ring with Frampton, Quigg, Flores etc and then he maybe can be put in the top 5 p4p.
My top 5 are:
GGG - just down to the fact he has been in with good people, and the power and skills this guy has got is incredible.
Kovalev - Since the Cleverly fight he has dominated Lightheavy!
Gonzalez
Andre Ward- At SMW he dominated it, nobody could touch him! I'm sure he will surprise a few at LHW
Canelo


you're born 95, u know poo about boxing. learn more and come back in some years.
A lot of people on here don't think rigo is even in the top 5? and you think he is the best? I bet you have have only seen one rigo fight :lol:

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 08:37
by Chepppaaa
fightfan95 wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:
fightfan95 wrote:


you're born 95, u know poo about boxing. learn more and come back in some years.
A lot of people on here don't think rigo is even in the top 5? and you think he is the best? I bet you have have only seen one rigo fight :lol:
a lot of people had wlad #1, a lot of people are stupid and only few are experts.

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 08:41
by fightfan95
Chepppaaa wrote:
fightfan95 wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:


you're born 95, u know poo about boxing. learn more and come back in some years.
A lot of people on here don't think rigo is even in the top 5? and you think he is the best? I bet you have have only seen one rigo fight :lol:
a lot of people had wlad #1, a lot of people are stupid and only few are experts.
Peronally I think Rigo isn't in the top 5.. and you do... I'm not saying you're stupid? I'm not saying I'm an expert - I'm far from it... But I can't understand your reason on why you think Rigo is best p4p boxer - like many others on here.

Re: Year end p4p' top-30

Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 08:50
by Chepppaaa
fightfan95 wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:
fightfan95 wrote:
A lot of people on here don't think rigo is even in the top 5? and you think he is the best? I bet you have have only seen one rigo fight :lol:
a lot of people had wlad #1, a lot of people are stupid and only few are experts.
Peronally I think Rigo isn't in the top 5.. and you do... I'm not saying you're stupid? I'm not saying I'm an expert - I'm far from it... But I can't understand your reason on why you think Rigo is best p4p boxer - like many others on here.

exactly, you are far from an expert. but you can learn, good luck in learning.