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let me start this article by saying if this quote is true then
Boooo booo bob arum boooo
Because this fight needs to stay in 2012 where it belongs
the first fight between pac an bradley manny seem to win with ease with many ring observes saying the same but in one of the worst judging decision in recent modern times bradley got the split win even tho pac clearly won the fight and then 18 months later they fought again which they shoudnt of had to because pac should of got a UD in the first fight so they had the 2nd fight in which pac won the fight yet again but this time with even more dominace to prove he was the better fighter that we all knew he was

But now for his last hurrah bob arum wants him to go into a rubber match with bradley an then wonders when its all done an dusted with a fight in which i think manny wins clearly again that the ppv only brings in only half a million buys if that because with teddy atlas as his new trainer bradley thinks hell get better an improve but in his last fight with a terrible weight drained brandon rios he looked like the typical tim bradley just 3 years older but i get why the fight appeals to bradley with pacs injurys and father time creepin up on him this might be the only chance hell ever get of getting a clean win over pac but if manny just uses the experience an goes back to how he fourght two years ago with bradley and not how he did against mayweather even though its very hard to look good against mayweather because he just defuses your style power an speed like a bomb within 6 rounds then he should pick up the W but id rather see pac in with khan then bradley because it would be intresting fight with the battle of speed on show an if khans chin can stand pacs power or the fight with crawford which does 1,000,000 ppv buys in my opinion the old lion against the new one simalier to the canelo-cotto fight which just brought in 900,000 buys and i think the pac-crawford fight appeals so much more then that fight so arum should think about fans sometimes and maybe give them a show to remember an not one to quickly

I can't think of a more pointless fight in the history of boxing.

I actually heard someone tell me that they thought Bradley's "impressive" performance with Jessie Vargas coupled with a "shot" Pacquiao fighting Chris Algieri and only managing to knock him down 6 times suggested he would easily beat Pacquiao now. I was floored.

Ricky_ wrote:I can't think of a more pointless fight in the history of boxing.

I agree.This fight can not and should not happen.
It would be more exciting watching paint dry or grass grow.

If this is true Arum and Paquiao should be strung up by their testicles and beaten like a pinata

I'd actually quite like to see this fight.

I rank Pacman and Bradley 1 and 2 in the division.

Be interesting to see after the shoulder and Father Time whether he still has enough to beat Bradley.

In the build up Freddie Roach and Teddy Atlas would keep us all entertained.

Please no

Pac obviously won the first two but the current bradley could pose a problem to him. But why give him 3 chances with pacman when theres Khan,Canelo,Cotto etc

I thought Bradley had run out of broken legs/ankles.

Did he get a transplant ?

There really is no point in this fight, the only positive is if little timmy fires Atlas after he gets beat.

This would not surprise me. Pac Man has turned into a punk and fought Floyd like a true bitch. He does not want Crawford. He is looking for a last payday with minimal risk. Pac should just quit, his heart is not even in it anymore.

Great fight even though it has already been done, personally this is a much better fight than Floyd vs Berto and as a boxing fan I'm going to watch it.

People do not agree with the first gift that Bradley received in the first Pac fight so though the record books says it's a rubber match but we all really know what it really is.

It's going to be a great fight despite both guys not being what they once were and some under the impression that MP is past his better days (I beg to differ) and that Bradley is improving under Atlas (i beg to differ again).

I will not pay to see it on PPV but i will watch the replay for free.

I think MP wins it again and then rides off into the sunset with the upperhand and the future Presidency in the Philippines.

Lancenix wrote:This would not surprise me. Pac Man has turned into a punk and fought Floyd like a true bitch. He does not want Crawford. He is looking for a last payday with minimal risk. Pac should just quit, his heart is not even in it anymore.

i would pick bradley over crawford at 147. bradley is not an easier fight

Pacquiao should retire.

You guys are nuts. This is a great fight to make for Manny's last fight. What the heck has Tim Bradley done to make people not want to see him in a big fight again? With Manny's age and declining effectiveness matched up against an improved Bradley, this has WAR written all over it. These are probably the people that loved Floyd's last fight.

I'd rather see Manny fight Khan but this is the second best fight to make i think. I think Crawford is too much for Manny right now. His last fight has to be with a Top Rank boxer as Bob wants to get both ends of Manny's last purse so the options aren't exactly plentiful. Love this fight. Let's do it.

caldo2025 wrote:You guys are nuts. This is a great fight to make for Manny's last fight. What the heck has Tim Bradley done to make people not want to see him in a big fight again? With Manny's age and declining effectiveness matched up against an improved Bradley, this has WAR written all over it. These are probably the people that loved Floyd's last fight.

I'd rather see Manny fight Khan but this is the second best fight to make i think. I think Crawford is too much for Manny right now. His last fight has to be with a Top Rank boxer as Bob wants to get both ends of Manny's last purse so the options aren't exactly plentiful. Love this fight. Let's do it.

Because Bradley is presently on the fringes of contendership and a known not-elite quantity. From a historic perspective, if you believe Manny is washed up and Bradley can or will win this fight, Bradley "wins the trilogy," which considering that there never should have been a trilogy is simply abhorrent. If Pacquiao loses, Manny will apparently ride into the sunset as a star who didn't give up any of his shine for a younger guy and Bradley goes back to selling 50 tickets at desert casinos fighting prospects. If Bradley wins, he beat up a washed Pacman and proceeds to, I suppose, lose to Crawford.

Crawford/Pacquiao is the fight to make if Pacquiao is really retiring. You don't do that only if you believe that an impressive Pacquiao performance against a "resurgent" Tim Bradley can be used to sell the idea of Floyd/Manny 2. That's what I suspect the real end game is.

zorndeslammes wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:You guys are nuts. This is a great fight to make for Manny's last fight. What the heck has Tim Bradley done to make people not want to see him in a big fight again? With Manny's age and declining effectiveness matched up against an improved Bradley, this has WAR written all over it. These are probably the people that loved Floyd's last fight.

I'd rather see Manny fight Khan but this is the second best fight to make i think. I think Crawford is too much for Manny right now. His last fight has to be with a Top Rank boxer as Bob wants to get both ends of Manny's last purse so the options aren't exactly plentiful. Love this fight. Let's do it.

Because Bradley is presently on the fringes of contendership and a known not-elite quantity. From a historic perspective, if you believe Manny is washed up and Bradley can or will win this fight, Bradley "wins the trilogy," which considering that there never should have been a trilogy is simply abhorrent. If Pacquiao loses, Manny will apparently ride into the sunset as a star who didn't give up any of his shine for a younger guy and Bradley goes back to selling 50 tickets at desert casinos fighting prospects. If Bradley wins, he beat up a washed Pacman and proceeds to, I suppose, lose to Crawford.

Crawford/Pacquiao is the fight to make if Pacquiao is really retiring. You don't do that only if you believe that an impressive Pacquiao performance against a "resurgent" Tim Bradley can be used to sell the idea of Floyd/Manny 2. That's what I suspect the real end game is.

Pretty unfair assessment of Bradley and insulting to most true boxing fans. Timothy Bradley is the only Welterweight willing to fight the best in the division. Bradley is a surefire, first ballot Hall Of Famer. In his last 13 fights, Timothy Bradley has defeated the following:

Manny Pacquiao
Juan Manual Marquez
Lamont Peterson
Ruslan Provodnikov
Jessie Vargas
Brandon Rios
Devon Alexander
Kendall Holt
And he fought to a draw with Diego Chavez who no one wants to fight.

Look at that list again and tell me how awful Timothy Bradley is and how bad his ticket sales are. He's fought all of the people above in the last 6 years. And you have the balls to say he doesn't deserve a third fight with Manny but Crawford does? Crawford's been given enough in his young years. Crawford's first moving up to 140 was a title shot. Timothy Bradley had nothing given to him and his heart has treated us all to several wildly exciting FOY candidate fights.

I've heard a lot of ridiculousness on this site but this one really tops the list so far. Either you lost beer money on a Bradley fight or you know absolutely nothing about the sport of boxing. Unfortunately, I think it's the latter.

caldo2025 wrote:

zorndeslammes wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:You guys are nuts. This is a great fight to make for Manny's last fight. What the heck has Tim Bradley done to make people not want to see him in a big fight again? With Manny's age and declining effectiveness matched up against an improved Bradley, this has WAR written all over it. These are probably the people that loved Floyd's last fight.

I'd rather see Manny fight Khan but this is the second best fight to make i think. I think Crawford is too much for Manny right now. His last fight has to be with a Top Rank boxer as Bob wants to get both ends of Manny's last purse so the options aren't exactly plentiful. Love this fight. Let's do it.

Because Bradley is presently on the fringes of contendership and a known not-elite quantity. From a historic perspective, if you believe Manny is washed up and Bradley can or will win this fight, Bradley "wins the trilogy," which considering that there never should have been a trilogy is simply abhorrent. If Pacquiao loses, Manny will apparently ride into the sunset as a star who didn't give up any of his shine for a younger guy and Bradley goes back to selling 50 tickets at desert casinos fighting prospects. If Bradley wins, he beat up a washed Pacman and proceeds to, I suppose, lose to Crawford.

Crawford/Pacquiao is the fight to make if Pacquiao is really retiring. You don't do that only if you believe that an impressive Pacquiao performance against a "resurgent" Tim Bradley can be used to sell the idea of Floyd/Manny 2. That's what I suspect the real end game is.

Pretty unfair assessment of Bradley and insulting to most true boxing fans. Timothy Bradley is the only Welterweight willing to fight the best in the division. Bradley is a surefire, first ballot Hall Of Famer. In his last 13 fights, Timothy Bradley has defeated the following:

Manny Pacquiao
Juan Manual Marquez
Lamont Peterson
Ruslan Provodnikov
Jessie Vargas
Brandon Rios
Devon Alexander
Kendall Holt
And he fought to a draw with Diego Chavez who no one wants to fight.

Look at that list again and tell me how awful Timothy Bradley is and how bad his ticket sales are. He's fought all of the people above in the last 6 years. And you have the balls to say he doesn't deserve a third fight with Manny but Crawford does? Crawford's been given enough in his young years. Crawford's first moving up to 140 was a title shot. Timothy Bradley had nothing given to him and his heart has treated us all to several wildly exciting FOY candidate fights.

I've heard a lot of ridiculousness on this site but this one really tops the list so far. Either you lost beer money on a Bradley fight or you know absolutely nothing about the sport of boxing. Unfortunately, I think it's the latter.

Bradley is far from a bum. He is deserving to fight anyone But Pacquiao.
We all have already seen him lose twice to Pacquiao no matter what the cards say. It is just not a fight anyone really wants to see again.

Oh and Furthermore, if Manny and Bradley fight with the winner being the 50th opponent to Floyd, the stakes could never be higher in a boxing match in the history of the sport. I personally would love to see Bradley fight Floyd and I don't know why he was never in the conversation.

caldo2025 wrote:Oh and Furthermore, if Manny and Bradley fight with the winner being the 50th opponent to Floyd, the stakes could never be higher in a boxing match in the history of the sport. I personally would love to see Bradley fight Floyd and I don't know why he was never in the conversation.

Because he is an Arum fighter and there isn't a ton of money like Pacquiao. Floyd vs Bradlay would be a good match up but it would never happen

caldo2025 wrote: Pretty unfair assessment of Bradley and insulting to most true boxing fans. Timothy Bradley is the only Welterweight willing to fight the best in the division.

They all are if the promoter makes the fights. Lemme guess; Floyd wouldn't be willing to do that, except that he shut out the best guys on the list, right?

Look at that list again and tell me how awful Timothy Bradley is and how bad his ticket sales are.

It isn't a bad list. I don't think he's a bad fighter. However, saying he "defeated" Manny Pacquiao is frankly ridiculous and exactly why we're even in this discussion of him supposedly deserving a third bout. Manny beat him comprehensively twice. Tim, in winning efforts, also finished a pair of fights with fringe guys out on his feet in the last three years. He's obviously not an elite level talent. He's a very good talent, and a very gutsy talent, but he's not elite, and he's actually a guy who's fighting style suggests he won't be of consequence for terribly long. And yes, his ticket sales suck. Unless he's opposite Marquez or Pacquiao, he can't draw. He's the B-side to everyone.

And you have the balls to say he doesn't deserve a third fight with Manny but Crawford does?

Crawford is a prospect who needs a meaningful win. Bradley is a guy for whom nothing really changes win/lose/draw. He's been in with these big names already and he's not been made any more significant of a draw than he was before.

caldo2025 wrote:You guys are nuts. This is a great fight to make for Manny's last fight. What the heck has Tim Bradley done to make people not want to see him in a big fight again? With Manny's age and declining effectiveness matched up against an improved Bradley, this has WAR written all over it.

You can't be serious.

We already seen this fight, twice. And both times it was

* A stink-out.
* Had a Conclusive winner.

Bradley since then has possibly regressed, and now has an even more defensive trainer. If this shithole of a fight is signed it will be the first Pacquiao fight since Velazquez that i won't even bother watching.

Agree with Caldo.

Bradley is still the second best welterweight behind Pacman.

Saying he's not elite class is ridiculous. The only reason not to fight him is as previously mentioned he doesn't generate considerable income through PPV or ticket sales unless he's the B fighter.

Even though Pacman clearly on everyone bar the judges eyes won the first two I personally feel Pacman has regressed enough to make the fight competitive.

People talk about Bradley on the downhill slope which I disagree with.
He only got a draw with Chaves but clearly won in another awful decision.
Also he controlled the Vargas fight and even though he got caught with a good one he was nowhere near out on his feet as mentioned previously.

The Crawford hype I'd like to see increased a bit more before a mega fight. For me his logical 2016 fight would be a unification fight with Postol. He wins that and moves up then his buzz would be HUGE

Pacquiao has one more fight. Who in their right mind wants to see if he has enough left in the tank to beat Bradley a 3rd time????? Wtf good does that do anyone? Who does that entertain?

Make Pacquiao vs Khan. Let's see if Pac has enough left to knock that sucker tfo. If Khan wins it would set up some good fights at WW post-pac.

Ricky_ wrote:Pacquiao has one more fight. Who in their right mind wants to see if he has enough left in the tank to beat Bradley a 3rd time????? Wtf good does that do anyone? Who does that entertain?

Make Pacquiao vs Khan. Let's see if Pac has enough left to knock that sucker tfo. If Khan wins it would set up some good fights at WW post-pac.

Yes because the guy who lost to Peterson and got KTFO by garcia will be way more competitive than Bradley.