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best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 11:00
by Ezzard
Who has the best set of scalps in the last 50 years?
No need to be too fussy on the dates. Example - Dick Tiger's wins can be mentioned despite most of them being pre-1965...Ray Robinson's can't despite fighting as late as 1965.
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 21:49
by Ambling Alp II
Interesting topic. I will take a crack at it.
1. Ali - (Best were against Patterson, Frazier, Foreman, Norton.)
2. Leonard- (Benitez, Duran, Hearns, Hagler)
3. Holyfield (Qawi, Bowe, Tyson)
4. Spinks (Qawi, Mustafa Muhammad, Holmes)
5. Hearns (Cuevas, Duran, Benitez)
6. Tiger (Giardello, Torres, Benvenuti)
7. Duran (Leonard, Buchanan, DeJesus)
8. Sanchez (Lopez, Gomez, Nelson)
9. Griffith (Benvenuti, Tiger)
10. Pac (Barrera, Morales, Marquez)
Honorable Mention:
Benitez, Ortiz,Barrera, Morales, Frazier, Foreman,Chavez, Arguello.
I'm sure someone is missing.
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 07:41
by Ezzard
Ali
Liston x2
Frazier x2
Foreman
Norton x2
Young
Quarry x2
Ellis
I appreciate a couple of those decisions raise a few eyebrows but they were close enough no matter what you think.
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 07:42
by Ezzard
Pac
MAB x2
Morales x2
Marquez x2
DLH
Hatton
Cotto
Braldey (should be x2)
Sasakul
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 07:44
by Ezzard
Monzon
Griffith x2
Valdez x2
Benvenuti x2
Briscoe
Napoles
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 09:23
by elmersalsa
Salvador Sanchez:
WTKO13 Danny Lopez
W15 Juan LaPorte
WTKO8 Wilfredo Gomez
WTKO15 Azumah Nelson
Roberto Duran:
WTKO10 Ernesto Marcel
WKO7 Hiroshi Kobayashi
WTKO13 Ken Buchanan
WKO11 Esteban De Jesus (II)
W10 Carlos Palomino
W15 Sugar Ray Leonard
WTKO8 Davey Moore
W15 Iran Barkley
Joe Frazier:
WKO11 Buster Mathis
WTKO9 Jerry Quarry
WKO5 Jimmy Ellis
WKO2 Bob Foster
W15 Muhammad Ali...The greatest win and performance of any fighter of the last 50 years, at least in my view
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 09:49
by Ezzard
Duran
Buchanan
Leonard
DeJesus x2
Moore
Barkley
Marcel
Ishimatsu
Cuevas
Palomino
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 09 Dec 2015, 15:47
by cfang
Leonard- (Benitez, Duran, Hearns, Hagler)
that really takes some beating tbh
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 08:07
by Ezzard
Griffith
Rodriguez x3
Tiger x2
Benvenuti
Archer x2
Briscoe
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 08:09
by Ezzard
Olivares
Castillo x2
Rose
Ramirez
Hafey
Chacon x2
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 12:15
by Ambling Alp II
Benitez
Cervantes
Palomino
Duran
Santos
Hope
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 12:54
by Ezzard
So far I like Pac's.
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 14:03
by elmersalsa
Ezzard wrote:Griffith
Rodriguez x3
Tiger x2
Benvenuti
Archer x2
Briscoe
That's a great collection of wins for the great Emile Griffith. Very underrated boxer that never got the credit he deserves. He also beat Benny Paret, Gaspar Ortega, Denny Moyer, Florentino Fernandez, and Jorge Jose Fernandez. He fought the very best of his era.
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 14:12
by stevedoc
one that hasn't been mentioned is roy jones
bernard hopkins
james toney
mike mccallum
virgil hill
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 14:23
by Crease
Initially what came to my mind was Salvador Sanchez. As someone already pointed out:
elmersalsa wrote:Salvador Sanchez:
WTKO13 Danny Lopez
W15 Juan LaPorte
WTKO8 Wilfredo Gomez
WTKO15 Azumah Nelson
And when you consider that he did it within the period of 24 months, it really makes it all the more incredible.
My second thought moves on to Roy Jones Jr (again as someone else pointed out)
stevedoc wrote:one that hasn't been mentioned is roy jones
bernard hopkins
james toney
mike mccallum
virgil hill
I'd probably throw Reggie Johnson & John Ruiz (for the WBA Heavyweight crown) and it makes for some compelling reading.
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 15:04
by Rexob
Where's Mayweather top 3 at least.
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 16:49
by Ambling Alp II
Always thought Arguello's was interesting. Given that Olivares was starting to slide, there really is no huge "scalp" here. However, a lot of very good ones:
Olivares
Escalera
Limon
Chacon
Navarette
Boza Edwards
Castillo
Ramirez
Watt
Mancini
Only Ramirez and Watt went the distance.
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 18:32
by elmersalsa
Rexob wrote:Where's Mayweather top 3 at least.
Can his fans say he beat 24 world champions?
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 11 Dec 2015, 03:24
by Ezzard
elmersalsa wrote:Ezzard wrote:Griffith
Rodriguez x3
Tiger x2
Benvenuti
Archer x2
Briscoe
That's a great collection of wins for the great Emile Griffith. Very underrated boxer that never got the credit he deserves. He also beat Benny Paret, Gaspar Ortega, Denny Moyer, Florentino Fernandez, and Jorge Jose Fernandez. He fought the very best of his era.
In today's era those guys you mention would have been world title holders and multi world title holders. He was exceptional.
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 05:42
by Tuan_Jim
Rexob wrote:Where's Mayweather top 3 at least.
This must be a joke? You seriously believe Mayweather's carefully selected victims earn him a place among these men? Do you even know who most of these fighters are?
Sets a bad precedent when you start rewarding fighters for risk averse, PR managed careers.
Re: best collection of victories: 1965-2015
Posted: 13 Dec 2015, 09:12
by keithmoonhangover
Not the victories, but the manner of them for Mike Tyson.
Spinks KO1
Holmes KO4