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Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 08:24
by SNG
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... ive-boxing

Possibly one of the poorest and most ill-informed articles I've ever read.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 08:34
by Cholo_cws
Whoa, talk about having an agenda. Very poor indeed.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 08:41
by veriton
Most boxers play on the bad boy image, and pander to the stereotypical image of rabid thug with a cauliflower brain
:lol: :lol: at least she could have made the effort to get the terms right

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 08:47
by reggaereggae
Yawn. The guardian always find a spin to chastise the middle class Who they despise, despite the fact most of their journalists are middle class

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 09:05
by keirw
I stopped reading as soon as she referred to boxing as a 'so-called sport' I don't imagine I'm missing much.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 09:14
by Boxerbeetle
I don't dislike the Guardian as much as most other newspapers, but that is a shockingly poor opinion piece. Should never have been published in its current state; the author should have at least been sent away to do some actual research.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 09:25
by iamasadlittleboy
So called journalist?

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 09:26
by simonwalsh
Personally, I find that article more offensive than anything Fury has spouted.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 09:36
by Nightmare Roy
keirw wrote:I stopped reading as soon as she referred to boxing as a 'so-called sport' I don't imagine I'm missing much.
:witzend: Darts and Golf are so called sports.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 09:50
by Nightmare Roy
Wow she's getting destroyed in the comments section, don't think she'll be writing any boxing articles any time soon.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 09:54
by iamasadlittleboy
Individual competitiveness...I guess that means Cycling, golf, tennis, athletics, darts, snooker and diving (hah) can get tae fornicate too....right?

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 09:56
by Horse
Should major newspapers really be allowing such awful articles to be published online or otherwise?

These ridiculously poor Tyson Fury articles these papers keep releasing have made me lose even more respect for the British media and I had very little to begin with.

Have they no shame or desire for credibility?

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 10:03
by pyenest77
Just read it all. Dross of the highest order.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 10:11
by Coco
Boxing does exploit working class men, if we lived in a perfect society boxing probably probably wouldn't exist.
I also think working for multi nationals exploits middle class kids.
However they all offer the opportunity for progression in life. Taking away opportunities isn't the answer especially for working class kids who have less options.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 10:40
by Horse
Coco wrote:Boxing does exploit working class men, if we lived in a perfect society boxing probably probably wouldn't exist.
Why not?

I don't think that I like your idea of "perfect".

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 11:14
by Coco
If we lived in a non violent society where everyone had a chance to be a doctor or politician, I doubt we woul have a call for boxing and it would be difficult to find people to take part.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 11:19
by freddydoesdallas
Read this earlier and it was that poor i couldn't even be arsed to make a comment on it.

No doubt she'll be encouraged to keep writing like this though as it is clickbait just like gifford on the that other boxing website

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 11:22
by Coco
Her views are as valid as Fury's on christianity. She doesn't offer any better paths for working men who fight though.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 11:23
by Horse
Coco wrote:If we lived in a non violent society where everyone had a chance to be a doctor or politician, I doubt we woul have a call for boxing and it would be difficult to find people to take part.
How many doctors and politicians do we need?

We generally do live in a non-violent society. Most people find it pretty easy to avoid violence.

A lot of people love boxing. Boxing is generally not a great way out of poverty. Getting a normal job is probably a much better way to do that.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 11:24
by keirw
Coco wrote:If we lived in a non violent society where everyone had a chance to be a doctor or politician, I doubt we woul have a call for boxing and it would be difficult to find people to take part.
If everyone in the world was a doctor or politician the world would cease to function

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 11:27
by Coco
I never said it was realistic but if better options were available getting beat up for a living would not be top of people's list.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 11:28
by SNG
Coco wrote:I never said it was realistic but if better options were available getting beat up for a living would not be top of people's list.
People would still compete in contact sports.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 11:30
by Coco
Horse wrote:
Coco wrote:If we lived in a non violent society where everyone had a chance to be a doctor or politician, I doubt we woul have a call for boxing and it would be difficult to find people to take part.
How many doctors and politicians do we need?

We generally do live in a non-violent society. Most people find it pretty easy to avoid violence.

A lot of people love boxing. Boxing is generally not a great way out of poverty. Getting a normal job is probably a much better way to do that.
A lot of people love Jeremy Kyle too but would not want their lifestyles. The majority of boxers come from people with limited options.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 11:32
by Coco
SNG wrote:
Coco wrote:I never said it was realistic but if better options were available getting beat up for a living would not be top of people's list.
People would still compete in contact sports.
You cannot compare other contact sports with boxing. You don't get the hooray Henry's off the rugger pitch wanting to fight for a living.

Re: Julie Bindel does boxing

Posted: 10 Dec 2015, 11:35
by Horse
Coco wrote:I never said it was realistic but if better options were available getting beat up for a living would not be top of people's list.
Fighting is largely a very poor way to make a living.

People generally don't get into boxing for the money.

With your negative views of the sport: why do you even watch it?