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you heard it hear first non experts and now tell me how good jennings is and how overrated ortiz is, just to find out in a couple of days that you were wrong......again hahahhahahahhaha

Chepppaaa wrote:you heard it hear first non experts and now tell me how good jennings is and how overrated ortiz is, just to find out in a couple of days that you were wrong......again hahahhahahahhaha

I do not know if Ortiz will hurt him badly.But I will not be shocked if Ortiz wins this one.

tiny_acres wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:you heard it hear first non experts and now tell me how good jennings is and how overrated ortiz is, just to find out in a couple of days that you were wrong......again hahahhahahahhaha

I do not know if Ortiz will hurt him badly.But I will not be shocked if Ortiz wins this one.

i mean with a litle bit of boxing sense anybody should see all the advantages right away.

bigga, taller, heavier puncher, technicly more sound. jennings absolutly no chance. its a good fight, dont get me wrong, jennings is okay, but ortiz totaly destroys him. also judging from his neck, ortiz can take a heavy punch

Since there is random testing for the fight, I'll take Jennings via decision.

Badhusker wrote:Since there is random testing for the fight, I'll take Jennings via decision.

Probably not. Jennings is the best fighter Ortiz has ever faced, so he will probably be the least hurt of any of Ortiz's opponents.

Ortiz is without a doubt probably the most skilled HW in boxing at the moment but Jennings isn't too bad himself and definitely isn't a pushover. I'm leaning towards Ortiz, he has the better pedigree and punching power.

Okay...
And exactly what do you base your conviction on?
Especially given the fact that Jennings has faced the much more significant opposition & his lone loss was via a points loss to a long time reigning champion in a fairly competitive contest. So, I fail to see your rationale in expecting his bout with the Cuban to be a mismatch in which Ortiz will take a beating en route to getting KO'd.
That's not to say that such a result isn't possible, because Ortiz is, in fact, a very large, powerful heavyweight with skills & gads of world class amateur experience to fall back on. But, thus far in his career he hasn't had to rise to the occasion against an actual contender. I'm sorry, but blowing out the likes of an ancient, shot Monte Barrett & a never was like Vidondo means nothing.
You may think/hope that he walks through Jennings like you want him to, but we'll just have to wait until Saturday night to see what happens.

Jennings is pretty solid defensively. I can see him taking Ortiz to deep waters and drowning him if he pushes a fast pace.

I expect Ortiz to get tired and the ring is the wrong place to get tired, so he will lose eventually.

Cuban heavyweights suck....so Jennings FTW!

Naandrew wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Since there is random testing for the fight, I'll take Jennings via decision.

Mayweather style or? Then Ortiz shouldn't have to worry about anything.

I haven't seen Ortiz fight yet, but can see from his boxrec record that he is a big guy, southpaw with good amatuer background, he his also 36 a little bit old, and has no where near the pro resume that Jennings has.

Jennings is the best American Heavyweight. His only weakness is he lacks 1 punch KO power. Just off the resumes alone I would give Jennings the nod is this fight, although I am sure this has the potential to be a competitive fight.

This fight to me has only one question, how long will Jennings last in there with Ortiz? Jennings is a really good boxer but he will get hit by Ortiz. I cant see it going past 6 rounds! Just my gut fealing

tiny_acres wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:you heard it hear first non experts and now tell me how good jennings is and how overrated ortiz is, just to find out in a couple of days that you were wrong......again hahahhahahahhaha

I do not know if Ortiz will hurt him badly.But I will not be shocked if Ortiz wins this one.

Me neither as he is a big favorite with the bookies.

Kudos to Jennings and Ortiz for making this fight. Ortiz punching power gives him a slight edge but I believe that Jennings is the more athletic and better trained.

Whoever wins this I will consider a top 5 heavyweight.

Jennings can pack a Punch and has good defense so getting the KO won't be easy.

Ortiz could outwork him, but does he have the Stamina for 12 rounds? perez won 5 of the first 6 rounds against Jennings but then lost because he was totally gassed and lost every round.

does Ortiz have better Stamina?

I just looked at their stats again and Jennings simply has had a lot better opponends. Also, the difference is only about 8 pounds. Somehow Ortiz seems to have at least 20 pounds more fat. In other words, Jennings had better opponends, he's stronger, he's in better shape, he got similar reach and on top of all that, he's also a smarter/better boxer.

Ortiz looks good because of his past few opponends, but I would be really really surprised if he wins this fight.

jennings wins = younger ...better opposition does well against southpaws ..i watched a few of ortiz fights he punches hard but has absolutly no jab .......jennings mite even stop this 35 yr old cuban

Ortiz is not tested at all. He hasn't had a fight in world class.

I have no problems picking Jennings for this.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Ortiz is without a doubt probably the most skilled HW in boxing at the moment but Jennings isn't too bad himself and definitely isn't a pushover. I'm leaning towards Ortiz, he has the better pedigree and punching power.

Without a doubt probably, huh?

While I strongly disagree on Ortiz skills at heavyweight, I'll echo your steadfastness and predict that Jennings will absolutely win perhaps unless Ortiz does.

punchoutsb wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Ortiz is without a doubt probably the most skilled HW in boxing at the moment but Jennings isn't too bad himself and definitely isn't a pushover. I'm leaning towards Ortiz, he has the better pedigree and punching power.

Without a doubt probably, huh?

While I strongly disagree on Ortiz skills at heavyweight, I'll echo your steadfastness and predict that Jennings will absolutely win perhaps unless Ortiz does.

I am 100% confident that your prediction is correct.Unless you are wrong then I am 100% confident
that it is incorrect.

I just want to cover all basis

I'm picking Jennings. We'll see on Saturday.

:??

tiny_acres wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Ortiz is without a doubt probably the most skilled HW in boxing at the moment but Jennings isn't too bad himself and definitely isn't a pushover. I'm leaning towards Ortiz, he has the better pedigree and punching power.

Without a doubt probably, huh?

While I strongly disagree on Ortiz skills at heavyweight, I'll echo your steadfastness and predict that Jennings will absolutely win perhaps unless Ortiz does.

I am 100% confident that your prediction is correct.Unless you are wrong then I am 100% confident
that it is incorrect.

I just want to cover all basis

There is a firm possibility of a definite maybe, that one, or other of the combatants, could very likely win by decision, or perhaps KO :??

Jennings already declined the fight before due to not getting enough money, hes not a confident man, and all the talk about hes great v southpaws? did you watch the Perez fight? he struggled majorly v a limited boxer, ortiz has a big ametuer background of over 360 fights hes a skilled boxer. Jennings also goes into his shell when he gets caught and likes to run, if he dosen't get Ko'd by ortiz's first few big shots he'll cover up and run and lose on points.