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Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 06:20
by fightfan95
So if this was going to be made for their next fight, who do you think will win? Is this a good step-up after Whyte or not?

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 06:26
by Reece_D
Chisora doesn't last 4 rounds i feel this late in his career. Would rather see Joshua in with someone like Stiverne or the Jennings vs Ortitz winner where hes guranteed rounds.

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 06:31
by asdfjkl
Dillian Whyte is actually better as any example I've seen in this topic yet

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 06:39
by fightfan95
Reece_D wrote:Chisora doesn't last 4 rounds i feel this late in his career. Would rather see Joshua in with someone like Stiverne or the Jennings vs Ortitz winner where hes guranteed rounds.
I would like him in the with the winner of the Ortiz/Jennings - that would be a very good test for him. I think Chisora would last the same as Whyte, he is quite durable and has a good chin. What about the winner of Haye/ De Mori v Anthony Joshua?

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 06:50
by Ricky_
Chisora is shot imo. Wouldve been good if the chisira that fought Helenius was in there.

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 10:04
by PredatorHayds
Chisora/Scott or Teper would be a great opponent for Joshua next.

Chisora has a great chin and would be able to avoid a gunfight for a few rounds but I'd expect Joshua to stop him mid rounds like David Haye.

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 14 Dec 2015, 11:07
by Reece_D
fightfan95 wrote:
Reece_D wrote:Chisora doesn't last 4 rounds i feel this late in his career. Would rather see Joshua in with someone like Stiverne or the Jennings vs Ortitz winner where hes guranteed rounds.
I would like him in the with the winner of the Ortiz/Jennings - that would be a very good test for him. I think Chisora would last the same as Whyte, he is quite durable and has a good chin. What about the winner of Haye/ De Mori v Anthony Joshua?
Think Chisora has been in too many wars now and Joshua makes lights work of him. Jennings vs Ortiz winner poses a different threat to Joshua altogether. Both quote slick fighters who are hard to hit. Would be a big statement if he could stop either one of them. Haye ios too risky this early in his career still.

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 17 Dec 2015, 00:20
by badkatt
chisora is shot from the brutal beatingf he took from fury but a good stay busy fight for joshua

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 17 Dec 2015, 09:33
by punchoutsb
Easy easy win for Joshua. Chisora has never been good at the top level.

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 17 Dec 2015, 20:55
by MDINJACKSON
This would be a very good match-up for Joshua, not because Chisora has a chance to win, but because it would give AJ the opportunity to gain experience against a guy who has challenged for world titles. Now, still early in his career, it is important for him to continue to progress in his march towards the heavyweight title. He's proven he's the best prospect from his region against Whyte and Cornish, so now is the time to step up to guys who have been in with the best, but are not quite in the top 10-15 heavyweights in the world. Chisora fills that role perfectly.

Of course Joshua would win, but right now, it isn't about that for AJ. It's about gaining experience and progressing towards becoming the champion that I, and many others, feel he is capable of becoming.

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 17 Dec 2015, 21:35
by jezzamundo
punchoutsb wrote:Easy easy win for Joshua. Chisora has never been good at the top level.
Except for when he clearly beat and was robbed against an admittedly injured Robert Helenius and gave Vitali Klitschko his toughest fight since Lennox Lewis. His win over Malik Scott isn't to be sneezed at either. He also made Haye work hard for his win. That was all a while ago though and Fury dismantled Chisora with ease, although I think people didn't realise at the time how much Fury has improved and saw it as Chisora being shot. Chisora is currently at least 20lb north of his ideal fighting weight and has been fighting nobodies, so it's a bit hard to gauge how well he could do if he were motivated and in shape. For now, I think Chisora's toughness and relative lack of power make him an excellent next stepping stone for Joshua. I'd expect Joshua to stop Chisora in the middle rounds after being tested and made to work early on.

Also, we don't yet know whether Joshua is at the top level because he hasn't proved himself against a genuine top 15 fighter.

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 04:33
by lillywhite14
Haye cracked his chin. His punch resistance has been iffy ever since. I don't think Chisora wants it either judging from his reaction to the fight being made. He is all about the money, dangerous stage to be at

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 06:50
by lowlefthand
Chisora got KO'd by Haye and wasn't quick enough for a small heavy.
He got his face beaten to a pulp by Fury, who is a tall heavy.
He's already had 5 losses and he's short, and he doesn't look like he has what it takes to get in shape these days.
A 6"6 Joshua is going to give a 6"1 Chisora a beat-down, and they both know it.
Chisora just in it for a pay check. Wouldn't be surprised to see him "struggle" to get up after a knock-down, and the fight waived off

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 10:54
by punchoutsb
jezzamundo wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:Easy easy win for Joshua. Chisora has never been good at the top level.
Except for when he clearly beat and was robbed against an admittedly injured Robert Helenius and gave Vitali Klitschko his toughest fight since Lennox Lewis. His win over Malik Scott isn't to be sneezed at either. He also made Haye work hard for his win. That was all a while ago though and Fury dismantled Chisora with ease, although I think people didn't realise at the time how much Fury has improved and saw it as Chisora being shot. Chisora is currently at least 20lb north of his ideal fighting weight and has been fighting nobodies, so it's a bit hard to gauge how well he could do if he were motivated and in shape. For now, I think Chisora's toughness and relative lack of power make him an excellent next stepping stone for Joshua. I'd expect Joshua to stop Chisora in the middle rounds after being tested and made to work early on.

Also, we don't yet know whether Joshua is at the top level because he hasn't proved himself against a genuine top 15 fighter.
His entire career is based off beating a badly injured Helenius who required surgery after the fight.

The only thing Chisora has ever had is volume and a better than average chin. He's failed every big test he's ever had.

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 11:15
by fightfan95
I think people are taking too much credit away from Chisora, apart from the last Fury fight he has produced some good performances at the top level. He gave Vitali a great test - possibly Vitali's hardest fight since Lewis. He rocked Haye in the early rounds and if it wasn't a late punch in a round, who knows what could've happened. He won the Helenius fight regardless if he was injuried or not. I'm not saying Chisora would beat Joshua (as i did vote Joshua KO) but it's a great stepping stone for him, having KO'd Chisora on your record shows that you can box at a good level.

Overal I think if this fight will be made it will just be a slightly better to watch fight then the Joshua v Whyte matchup. Joshua to win in the mid/late rounds.

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 11:23
by lillywhite14
The Vitali fight doesn't really matter anymore, same with the Helenius. I thought Vitali was a loss waiting to happen throughout his comeback and although Del Boy out up a good showing, he didn't come close to winning.

The reason why these fights are irrelevant imo is that Del Boy don't exist anymore. Haye cracked him. That was a pretty devastating knockout and I don't think he's been the same since. The Fury beating has reduced him even further.

It's all well and good saying it looks good on Joshua's record, which it would do, but its misleading. Del Boy has always been easy to hit and he isn't savvy enough to 'old man' Joshua. I think it could end up a 2 round blowout where Joshua learns nothing.

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 11:55
by punchoutsb
fightfan95 wrote:I think people are taking too much credit away from Chisora, apart from the last Fury fight he has produced some good performances at the top level. He gave Vitali a great test - possibly Vitali's hardest fight since Lewis. He rocked Haye in the early rounds and if it wasn't a late punch in a round, who knows what could've happened. He won the Helenius fight regardless if he was injuried or not. I'm not saying Chisora would beat Joshua (as i did vote Joshua KO) but it's a great stepping stone for him, having KO'd Chisora on your record shows that you can box at a good level.

Overal I think if this fight will be made it will just be a slightly better to watch fight then the Joshua v Whyte matchup. Joshua to win in the mid/late rounds.
This is the kind of overratedness I'm talking about. He gave Vitali a great test...he won two rounds. He gave a good showing against Haye...he got stopped in the fifth and the highlight of the fight was his late punch after the bell.

Beating Chisora shows you're at worst probably B level. Chisora never beaten higher than a C level (of course there's the Helenius fight again, I get that but if you don't think the injury had some affect...) opponent. It takes about two or three rounds for the good fighters to figure out his volume. Joshua will do the same, and stop him in the third or fourth. After the fight there will be a lot of people saying Del Boy gave him his toughest fight and how awesome of a win it is :witzend:

Re: Joshua v Chisora

Posted: 18 Dec 2015, 12:46
by TimJB
Not likely, but would like to see Joshua v. Ustinov or Charr.