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fury, joshua, wilder and a few others
mixing in. could be exciting. my bet
is on joshua, he is the full package.

all of them don't shy away of making
good fights.

man wrote:fury, joshua, wilder and a few others
mixing in. could be exciting. my bet
is on joshua, he is the full package.

all of them don't shy away of making
good fights.

The full package!? I'd say Joshua is a super-sized Athlete and a murderous puncher but that aside his boxing skills are questionable at this point. I don't think defence is up to much (a byproduct of having only 1 competitive fight), i think he lacks true ring craft in terms of lateral movement, setting up punches, etc & his stamina is also questionable at this stage.

Don't get me wrong i'm more interested in the HW division now than I have been since big Lennox retired but with Wlad all but finished now I think we're heading for an interesting, competitive era that's still lacking in quality.

I hope 2016 is the year of the heavies. Because it is the traditional glamour division of the sport and needs to regain that position.

I remember they used to say 'if the heavyweight division is healthy, boxing is healthy.'

Ricky_ wrote:

man wrote:fury, joshua, wilder and a few others
mixing in. could be exciting. my bet
is on joshua, he is the full package.

all of them don't shy away of making
good fights.

The full package!? I'd say Joshua is a super-sized Athlete and a murderous puncher but that aside his boxing skills are questionable at this point. I don't think defence is up to much (a byproduct of having only 1 competitive fight), i think he lacks true ring craft in terms of lateral movement, setting up punches, etc & his stamina is also questionable at this stage.

Don't get me wrong i'm more interested in the HW division now than I have been since big Lennox retired but with Wlad all but finished now I think we're heading for an interesting, competitive era that's still lacking in quality.

Ricky,

The heavyweights now have nowhere near the skill as years gone by but Fury's win over Klitschko has really opened the field up.I think we'll have a few years of interesting even bouts with lots of excitement. I like Wladimir Klitschko the man but I'm not a fan of the boxer - same as Mayweather. We've had a decade of boring dominant boxers. Now it's time for a few years of exciting fights.

Ricky_ wrote:

man wrote:fury, joshua, wilder and a few others
mixing in. could be exciting. my bet
is on joshua, he is the full package.

all of them don't shy away of making
good fights.

The full package!? I'd say Joshua is a super-sized Athlete and a murderous puncher but that aside his boxing skills are questionable at this point. I don't think defence is up to much (a byproduct of having only 1 competitive fight), i think he lacks true ring craft in terms of lateral movement, setting up punches, etc & his stamina is also questionable at this stage.

Don't get me wrong i'm more interested in the HW division now than I have been since big Lennox retired but with Wlad all but finished now I think we're heading for an interesting, competitive era that's still lacking in quality.

What this man said

I think the division will be more interesting, more exciting and with a lot more even match ups (providing the right fight are made.)

but the quality has dropped with the Klitschkos gone. And let's bare in mind that most complained about the lack of quality while the Klitschkos dominated.

My biggest worry is we don't get the right fights. They belt's could get fragmented and we have 3 or 4 champions protecting their slice of the pie against the Takams and Szpilkas instead of fighting each other or taking a gamble against the Povetkins of Joshuas of this world

In every division we cry out for 1 overall champion, by getting the best to fight the best.
Wlad was that dominant champion, unfortunately dominance seems like lack of competition and we moan that it's stagnant and boring.

Some people are never happy, we should perhaps be careful what we wish for,

Ok. I admit I'm a Parker fan, but I am genuinely excited about the heavies at the moment.
I'm looking forward to Ortiz v Jennings this weekend.

Other heavy fights I'd like to see (however unlikely)
Parker v Joshua
Joshua v Wilder
Wilder v Fury
Povetkin v Wilder

And I haven't even mentioned Klit..

etc. etc. etc.

The heavies are poppin' and we all win

Taansend wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

man wrote:fury, joshua, wilder and a few others
mixing in. could be exciting. my bet
is on joshua, he is the full package.

all of them don't shy away of making
good fights.

The full package!? I'd say Joshua is a super-sized Athlete and a murderous puncher but that aside his boxing skills are questionable at this point. I don't think defence is up to much (a byproduct of having only 1 competitive fight), i think he lacks true ring craft in terms of lateral movement, setting up punches, etc & his stamina is also questionable at this stage.

Don't get me wrong i'm more interested in the HW division now than I have been since big Lennox retired but with Wlad all but finished now I think we're heading for an interesting, competitive era that's still lacking in quality.

Ricky,

The heavyweights now have nowhere near the skill as years gone by but Fury's win over Klitschko has really opened the field up.I think we'll have a few years of interesting even bouts with lots of excitement. I like Wladimir Klitschko the man but I'm not a fan of the boxer - same as Mayweather. We've had a decade of boring dominant boxers. Now it's time for a few years of exciting fights.

I agree with most points including liking Wlad as the man not the boxer but Mayweather? Was that a typo?

Potentially a fantastic division.

I wouldn't say it's completly opened up yet though. I can see 2017 being the year when the so called prospects Joshua and Parker enter world title fights.

The heavyweight landscape in 2016 will be dominated by the outcome and build up to
Wilder-Povetkin
Fury-Wlad.

If Povetkin and Wlad win it's back to square one as he'd probably give Fury a rubber match.
If Wilder and Fury win it's a absolute free for all with some fantastic match ups to make.

At the very least these fights SHOULD happen:

Wilder vs Povetkin

Fury vs Wlad 2

Glaskov vs Martin

Joshua vs top 20

Parker vs top 20

Not too shabby if that's a minimum.

Tony1244 wrote:At the very least these fights SHOULD happen:

Wilder vs Povetkin

Fury vs Wlad 2

Glaskov vs Martin

Joshua vs top 20

Parker vs top 20

Not too shabby if that's a minimum.

These alone are better than we have had in years.I am super excited about the heavies

Wilder-Povetkin is good stuff but the others listed there don't really stand out to me, and of course much is hypothetical for now.

The 'HW is exciting again!" declarations seem like reflexive reactions to Wlad losing, but Fury, AJ, Parker, Wilder, and co. didn't just appear yesterday and little suggests that they're going to fight each other soon. I think 2016 will still be a year of predictable blowout wins for AJ and Parker, Wlad-Fury is a repeat of a 2015 fight, while Glazkov-Martin is decent but hardly spectacular (how excited were people back in March for Glazkov-Cunningham?). I'm also not sure if there's much to indicate that there will imminently be a marked rise of other contenders fighting each other.

Parker, Joshua, and Martin are power punchers with no defence....thats always good to watch

Jennings has been the one with the best all-round skills and has never avoided anyone (most of his big fights have seen him as the underdog)...he's a credit to the division.

Team Wilder are very fortunate to be in the position they are having steered their man to an alphabet bauble and defences whilst managing to avoid any truly world class opps. That cant last forever.

Povetkin surely has to be considered the world number 1 until someone other than the world champ beats him.

Glazkov and Ortiz are dull as ditch-water from what i can see.

Teper is a raw danger

Helenius may suffer from the Joe Bugner syndrome.

a recent good matchup is Jarrell Miller v Donovan Dennis ..... fun stuff

andy ruiz doesnt appear to be trained or managed well at all.

carlos takam is the nightmare opponent...and deserves another big shot

malik scott is a joke

I'm not quite sure what all the hoopla is about the Heavyweight division because for the most part it's a division that fights in eras, once a current crop goes down it takes a hell of a long time to build it up again.
Unlike say the Welterweight division among others which has always had boxers coming through year after year and been talent rich for as long as I can remember.
But not to rain on the parade the current crop of Heavyweights at best might be entertaining, if it truly produces some extra special talent then we might be in for a treat.
Anthony Joshua has a lot of promise and I'm very impressed at how his team are bringing him along nice and steadily, if he keeps going that way and improving on his style he could well be one of our sports torch carriers, only time will tell.