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Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings CLOSED

Posted: 20 Dec 2015, 21:34
by jezzamundo
BWH Rankings as of 21 December 2015:

Champion: Tyson Fury
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Kubrat Pulev
5. Bryant Jennings
6. Carlos Takam
7. Vyacheslav Glazkov
8. Ruslan Chagaev
9. Artur Szpilka
10= Dereck Chisora
10= Bermane Stiverne
12= Malik Scott
12= Erkan Teper
14. Anthony Joshua
15. Joseph Parker

Topic A - How are the rankings affected by Luis Ortiz's TK07 win over Bryant Jennings?

My vote: Ortiz to #4, Jennings to #8.

Note: This topic is for voting on the rankings of Ortiz and Jennings. Posting your own top 15 will not count as a vote. Please cast your vote in the manner than I have done above.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 20 Dec 2015, 21:49
by Tony1244
Ortiz to #4, Jennings to #6

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 20 Dec 2015, 22:12
by tiny_acres
Ortiz #4
Jennings down slightly to #7

They both impressed me.Jennings is tougher than I thought.But not as good as others have said.
Ortiz is damn good and I wish he would of been pushed faster.36 is old to get to the level he just reached.
He needs a title shot against someone soon

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 20 Dec 2015, 23:14
by crusader
Ortiz to #4 (I assume this means he bumps Pulev down? That's what I want, as Kubrat hasn't done much lately).
Jennings down to #7

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 00:29
by Freedom2013
Ortiz to #4, Jennings to #10.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 00:32
by ikorolev
So everybody thinks that Wilder beats Ortiz ?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 00:40
by jezzamundo
ikorolev wrote:So everybody thinks that Wilder beats Ortiz ?
Not necessarily - I'm pretty sure most people here don't vote soley on who they think would win in H2H matchups. Otherwise Joshua and Parker would likely be much higher, despite their thin resumes to date.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 00:49
by Lackeos
Ortiz up to #3
Jennings No Change (i.e. Down to #6, only because of Ortiz's movement, i.e. still between Pulev and Takam)

As far as I'm concerned, Ortiz's best win now equal's Povetkin's best win (Takam), or even narrowly exceeds it, but Povetkin's resume is significantly deeper. Also, I think Ortiz's best win clearly exceeds Wilder's best win.
No way could I consider moving Jennings below the fraud Glazkov. I considered moving him below Takam, but Takam's win over Thompson is looking decreasingly meaningful, while Jennings outperformed Takam against common opponent Mike Perez.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 01:17
by HyacinthusTurnipseed
Ortiz to #4
Jennings no change

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 05:00
by Belanio
My vote: Ortiz to #13, Jennings out.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 07:07
by Tarkus
Ortiz to #3, Jennings to #9.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 07:16
by Boxing Writer
Ortiz to #2, Jennings to #6

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 09:06
by Horse
Should we take Ortiz's failed drug test from last year into account?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 21 Dec 2015, 18:24
by Tony1244
ikorolev wrote:So everybody thinks that Wilder beats Ortiz ?

Really hard to say because we don't know how the other would take the other's punch. Being American, I am use to Cubans beating Americans, but Wilder does have a puncher's chance.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 12:37
by Lennox
Ortiz to 9
Jennings to 10
Spilka would be 11 and so on.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 12:37
by Cap
1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Wladimir Klitschko
3. Luis Ortiz
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Bryant Jennings
7. Carlos Takam
8. Vyacheslav Glazkov
9. Ruslan Chagaev
10. Artur Szpilka
11. Dereck Chisora
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Malik Scott
14. Anthony Joshua
15. Joseph Parker

Ortiz to number 3 and Jennings down to No.6. Really, after Povetkin and Klitschko you could put the rest of the names in a hat.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 19:34
by jezzamundo
Cap wrote:1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Wladimir Klitschko
3. Luis Ortiz
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Bryant Jennings
7. Carlos Takam
8. Vyacheslav Glazkov
9. Ruslan Chagaev
10. Artur Szpilka
11. Dereck Chisora
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Malik Scott
14. Anthony Joshua
15. Joseph Parker

Ortiz to number 3 and Jennings down to No.6. Really, after Povetkin and Klitschko you could put the rest of the names in a hat.
Posting your own list is not counted as a vote. That said, Ortiz to 3 and Jennings to 6 is fine, so actually no need to change this.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 11:01
by keirw
Ortiz in at 4

Everyone below subsequently moves down a notch.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 12:21
by tiny_acres
Cap wrote:1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Wladimir Klitschko
3. Luis Ortiz
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Bryant Jennings
7. Carlos Takam
8. Vyacheslav Glazkov
9. Ruslan Chagaev
10. Artur Szpilka
11. Dereck Chisora
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Malik Scott
14. Anthony Joshua
15. Joseph Parker

Ortiz to number 3 and Jennings down to No.6. Really, after Povetkin and Klitschko you could put the rest of the names in a hat.
Why do you have Povetkin over Klitschko?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 15:59
by Horse
tiny_acres wrote:Why do you have Povetkin over Klitschko?
Because he is a troll with "Editor" status.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 17:20
by tiny_acres
Horse wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:Why do you have Povetkin over Klitschko?
Because he is a troll with "Editor" status.
:TU: :TU: :TU:
I was thinking the same thing

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 17:46
by Cap
tiny_acres wrote:
Cap wrote:1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Wladimir Klitschko
3. Luis Ortiz
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Bryant Jennings
7. Carlos Takam
8. Vyacheslav Glazkov
9. Ruslan Chagaev
10. Artur Szpilka
11. Dereck Chisora
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Malik Scott
14. Anthony Joshua
15. Joseph Parker

Ortiz to number 3 and Jennings down to No.6. Really, after Povetkin and Klitschko you could put the rest of the names in a hat.
Why do you have Povetkin over Klitschko?
Because Povetkin has won his last few and Klitschko lost. Povetkin deserves a shot at Fury if he can't land Wilder.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 18:37
by Tarkus
Cap wrote: Because Povetkin has won his last few and Klitschko lost. Povetkin deserves a shot at Fury if he can't land Wilder.
Klitschko won his last few too, against a better opposition that incidentally includes Povetkin. Man was undefeated, unified champion for over 10 years. He lost one fight and he is already third because Povetkin had few good wins against fringe top 15 fighters. Great logic mate. :doh:

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 21:42
by tiny_acres
Tarkus wrote:
Cap wrote: Because Povetkin has won his last few and Klitschko lost. Povetkin deserves a shot at Fury if he can't land Wilder.
Klitschko won his last few too, against a better opposition that incidentally includes Povetkin. Man was undefeated, unified champion for over 10 years. He lost one fight and he is already third because Povetkin had few good wins against fringe top 15 fighters. Great logic mate. :doh:
I never understand his posts.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 24 Dec 2015, 10:51
by cold187
thats stupid pretty sure klitschko one sided beat povetkin, really one sided depsite holding.