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Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 25 Dec 2015, 14:50
by wesshaw1985
who takes home the WBC Title?

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 25 Dec 2015, 15:11
by Freedom2013
Wilder will likely beat Szpilka.

Szpilka has a chance, not because he's a top HW, but because Wilder isn't very good either (someone like Joshua, Fury, Povetkin, Parker, or old Klitschko would knock Wilder out).

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 26 Dec 2015, 12:39
by Badhusker
Freedom2013 wrote:Wilder will likely beat Szpilka.

Szpilka has a chance, not because he's a top HW, but because Wilder isn't very good either (someone like Joshua, Fury, Povetkin, Parker, or old Klitschko would knock Wilder out).
:zzz:

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 01:26
by 118913
Deontay is going to beat the dog out of ole boy.

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 06:28
by Davidreed
I,m desperately waiting that that Wilder win this match.

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 31 Dec 2015, 14:52
by northern
this is szpilka's first 12 round fight, first world championship fight but not first world level opponent (Tomasz Adamek, Bryant Jennings) but that lack of experience at this level is what will make the difference and against wilder who has stopping power, I can't see this going any other way than a Wilder KO/TKO win

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 03 Jan 2016, 17:44
by asdfjkl
Wilder: longer reach, taller, more musled, better shape, more fans over there, more speed, longer prepare time, more weight

Szpilka: more intelligence, better boxer

Nah, sorry I expect Wilder to win this one as well somehow I must admit, this will be Wilders best opponend ever.

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 03 Jan 2016, 19:20
by MachoTime
asdfjkl wrote:Wilder: longer reach, taller, more musled, better shape, more fans over there, more speed, longer prepare time, more weight

Szpilka: more intelligence, better boxer

Nah, sorry I expect Wilder to win this one as well somehow I must admit, this will be Wilders best opponend ever.
Toughest fight not according to the oddsmakers. Wilders toughest fight in which the odds were very close would be Stiverne.

Wilder -2000
Szplika +900

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 04 Jan 2016, 11:45
by PredatorHayds
Wilder KO for me.

Can see him jabbing and feeling out early then TKO around the 5th.

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 04 Jan 2016, 18:42
by asdfjkl
MachoTime wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:Wilder: longer reach, taller, more musled, better shape, more fans over there, more speed, longer prepare time, more weight

Szpilka: more intelligence, better boxer

Nah, sorry I expect Wilder to win this one as well somehow I must admit, this will be Wilders best opponend ever.
Toughest fight not according to the oddsmakers. Wilders toughest fight in which the odds were very close would be Stiverne.

Wilder -2000
Szplika +900
That's because Wilder became a better boxer since then. If you put Wilder against Stiverne right now you would probably barely get anything at all if you put your money on Wilder, because Wilder now proved more. Just two years ago Povetkin massively had the odds, right now he probably barely has them, if at all.

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 02:00
by TheBeast
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Wilder can box two ways... he can box behind a distance gauging jab, a blinding jab and follow up with straights from time to time. That's his carefull style... Even with that style he is vulnerable if you can duck the straight right because Wilder is limited on the inside and will be looking to hold.

His second way of fighting is getting at the boundary of the pocket and letting his hands go... he is all over the place when he uses the style... unblanced... throwing wide shots... like he is pitching a ball... He is very vulnerable in those situations.

Considering Szpilka has quick heavy hands and that he throws from odd angles...

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That he has a better inside fighting and bullying game...



I think it's safe to say Wilder will be in danger of getting caught and dropped.

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Szpilka is also a good finisher early in his fights.

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Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 08 Jan 2016, 09:41
by wesshaw1985

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 08 Jan 2016, 14:15
by Ilya Muromets
The bookies have Wilder an 8 1/2 to 1 favorite. But Szpilka beat a fighter that was much better than any Wilder ever fought, Adamek. Wilder is 4 inches taller than Spilka, but Spilka is actually a little bigger than Wilder who has been fighting at 219 to 229 while Szpilka's fighting weight is now 235. Go Szpilka!

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 08 Jan 2016, 15:02
by dagilechia
asdfjkl wrote:Wilder: longer reach, taller, more musled, better shape, more fans over there, more speed, longer prepare time, more weight

Szpilka: more intelligence, better boxer

Nah, sorry I expect Wilder to win this one as well somehow I must admit, this will be Wilders best opponend ever.
dont be that sure about fans, im sure that we will hear Polish fans screaming Szpila and Polska very loud!
more weight - Szpilka usually comes in heavier than Wilder but of course Wilder has physical advantage
75/25 fight imo

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 08 Jan 2016, 20:16
by Boxing Writer
Wilder looked very vulnarable for a southpaw's streight left hand/left hook while working on mitts with Jay Deas. Mind here that Jay Deas is 45 y.o. (or so) trainer who never boxed himself and probably never worked in southpaw's stance before, and he was still able to reach Wilder with his letf hand. I think they worked - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaNqUicnvn8

They had a decent amount of time to work on Wilder's flaws though.

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 09 Jan 2016, 05:34
by conty22
Boxing Writer wrote:Wilder looked very vulnarable for a southpaw's streight left hand/left hook while working on mitts with Jay Deas. Mind here that Jay Deas is 45 y.o. (or so) trainer who never boxed himself and probably never worked in southpaw's stance before, and he was still able to reach Wilder with his letf hand. I think they worked - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaNqUicnvn8

They had a decent amount of time to work on Wilder's flaws though.

Wilder should use jab and grab style against those small fighters

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 10 Jan 2016, 10:38
by AngryGoon38
I made a video talking about this upcoming matchup on my yt channl. Yt "Robert Decker jr."-"My take on Wilder vs Spilka".

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 10 Jan 2016, 11:39
by Tanzio
TheBeast wrote:Image

Wilder can box two ways... he can box behind a distance gauging jab, a blinding jab and follow up with straights from time to time. That's his carefull style... Even with that style he is vulnerable if you can duck the straight right because Wilder is limited on the inside and will be looking to hold.

His second way of fighting is getting at the boundary of the pocket and letting his hands go... he is all over the place when he uses the style... unblanced... throwing wide shots... like he is pitching a ball... He is very vulnerable in those situations.

Considering Szpilka has quick heavy hands and that he throws from odd angles...

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That he has a better inside fighting and bullying game...



I think it's safe to say Wilder will be in danger of getting caught and dropped.

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Szpilka is also a good finisher early in his fights.

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I agree that there is a sufficient percentage of risk in this fight to make it interesting. But, if Szpilka comes at Wilder with the attitude and defense he displayed above, Deonte will tuck him into bed early.

That may be his only hope though, come out and go toe to toe for better or worse.

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 10 Jan 2016, 12:16
by Ilya Muromets
Szpilka has only lost once, to Jennings, and just a few days before that fight he flew from Poland to Chicago and they wouldn't let him in because of some visa complaint and forced him take another 12 hour flight all the way back to Poland and then come back again, and if you don't think that takes a lot out of you, a big guy sitting squashed in a plane seat for 12 hours - and the jet lag....He has also put on over ten pounds of muscle since then. So I am anticipating an exciting fight culminating with Wilder on the floor.

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 09:21
by Badhusker
Wilder would be smart to box smart from range at least for the first couple rounds, and hit the body too. Szpilka can be dangerous with his left in close, and looks to have a good counter. He has enough power to put Wilder down, but not out imo. I look for a mid fight stoppage for Wilder.

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 10:46
by Heretic
Two pretenders fighting for paper title.

Neither man is that good. My prediction is Wilder by KO.

If I was a betting man I would still put my money on Szpilka by KO.

Wilder will loose when he meets good counter puncher with power. I don't think that Szpilka is that boxer.

Stiverne would whoop the floor with Szpilka and will be Wilders best win even if Wilder wins the oncoming match.

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 13:51
by Ilya Muromets
"Two pretenders fighting for paper title. "

Sure it's not the real title though the tv station and the ticket sellers try to bill it as such, as in the above ad, and Wilder is a very big favorite with the bookies and the majority of people here - but I'm betting on a KO by the krazy Polish guy!

"If I was a betting man I would still put my money on Szpilka by KO. "

I like the booky odds - and if I felt like messing with them and setting up an account and figuring out how to get my winnings without leaving it in their bank I'd place a bet. Any recommendations on that?

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 14:55
by MDINJACKSON
The fact that this is arguably WIlder's toughest fight yet should speak for itself. Even though WIlder has shown interest in stepping up his competition in the coming year(s), his first two defenses were against Eric Molina and Johann Douhapas, guys virtually no one had heard of. Despite this however, they both were able to take WIlder into the deeper rounds, with Douhapas able to badly damage WIlder's eye in their fight.

Still, Szpilka presents a step up from those two, having fought world class opposition by beating Tomasz Adamek and losing to Bryant Jennings. He's displayed power in recent fights, but he has struggled to compete more technically sound fighters.

WIlder has the tools to emerge at the top of the heavyweight pool, and hopefully he will show that by facing Povetkin next in his mandatory before moving on to the Klitschko/Fury winner or Anthony Joshua/Luis Ortiz. He is capable of beating any of these guys, but in order to do so he's GOT to step up his competiton, and he's got to do it soon.

WIlder should knock Szpilka out with relative ease on Saturday, but it really doesn't mean anything if he doesn't move on to better opponents afterwards.

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 15:02
by Crease
I favour a Wilder victory via UD. After that, I'd be very impressed if he managed to line up an IBF unification fight with Glazkov. At least it would show that he's making some sort of effort in cleaning up the division.

Re: Deontay Wilder (c) vs. Artur Szpilka - January 16th 2016

Posted: 11 Jan 2016, 15:04
by Ilya Muromets
MDINJACKSON wrote:...

WIlder should knock Szpilka out with relative ease on Saturday, but it really doesn't mean anything if he doesn't move on to better opponents afterwards.


He knocked out neither Molina nor Duhaupas "with relative ease", and Molina had him in trouble at one point. Szpilka is much better than those two. His only loss had extenuating circumstances. He has beaten a much better fighter than Wilder ever faced. Wilder has the big punch. No question about that but besides that not much. I think the bookie odds are much too high. I might place an online bet if I can figure out how to do it and it's not too much of a hassle.