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Re: Usyk, Gvozdyk & Derevyanchenko = the top 3 prospects in boxing
Posted: 27 Dec 2015, 11:40
by Tarkus
I know Derevyanchenko from the amateurs. I dont have too high hopes for him in the pros. Could be a decent brawler though.
Usyk is a class act, he could clean up CW division.
Parker is a very serious prospect in my opinion.
Re: Usyk, Gvozdyk & Derevyanchenko = the top 3 prospects in boxing
Posted: 27 Dec 2015, 12:26
by Tarkus
Killer Kovalev wrote:Tarkus wrote:I know Derevyanchenko from the amateurs. I dont have too high hopes for him in the pros. Could be a decent brawler though.
Are you getting him mixed up with Khytrov? You need to check Derevyanchenko out, he's technically very good and has a good defence, he is patient the first round or two then he goes to work... with really accurate shots, and is a really good finisher. He's made for the pro's, hence why he was really successful in the World Series Of Boxing. He's probably the best WSB boxer ever, he had a 23-1 record there.
No I am not confusing them, but they seem similar in style. However I have not seen Derev in pros yet. So perhaps I should check that out.
Re: Usyk, Gvozdyk & Derevyanchenko = the top 3 prospects in boxing
Posted: 02 Jan 2016, 20:47
by Freedom2013
Usyk has a good promoter and excellent trainer (James Ali Bashir) and could become cruiserweight champion. However, the division is very deep in talent with Lebedev, Drozd, Glowacki, Makabu, Kalenga, etc. so it won't be easy.
Gvozdyk signed with the worst possible promoter. He is VERY talented, but how far can he go with old Bob Arum running (ruining) his career? Shabranskyy who signed with Golden Boy will have more opportunity. Bivol has a top promoter too, and is just as talented as Gvozdyk. Light heavyweight is a very interesting division, full of talented up-and-comers.
Deverenchenko has a good promoter in DiBella and excellent manager in Haymon, but is somewhat less talented than Gvozdyk. He will be a very good top 10 contender at middleweight, and might win a title, but he's no Golovkin and won't dominate the division.
Re: Usyk, Gvozdyk & Derevyanchenko = the top 3 prospects in boxing
Posted: 02 Jan 2016, 20:55
by ikorolev
Killer Kovalev wrote:Freedom2013 wrote:Usyk has a good promoter and excellent trainer (James Ali Bashir) and could become cruiserweight champion. However, the division is very deep in talent with Lebedev, Drozd, Glowacki, Makabu, Kalenga, etc. so it won't be easy.
Gvozdyk signed with the worst possible promoter. He is VERY talented, but how far can he go with old Bob Arum running (ruining) his career? Shabranskyy who signed with Golden Boy will have more opportunity. Bivol has a top promoter too, and is just as talented as Gvozdyk. Light heavyweight is a very interesting division, full of talented up-and-comers.
Deverenchenko has a good promoter in DiBella and excellent manager in Haymon, but is somewhat less talented than Gvozdyk. He will be a very good top 10 contender at middleweight, and might win a title, but he's no Golovkin and won't dominate the division.
I think you are underrating Derevyanchenko, he looks a brilliant prospect, Will defiantely be a world champion, and could be a P4Per in my opinion.
Usyk is in the best and most exciting division yes.. However he beat all the best fighters in the world in the amteurs and WSB and I expect him to do it in the pro's because he's an exceptional A* level talent.
Let's wait and see how this talent takes a punch from Lebedev or even Gassiev/Kalenga type of a fighter.
Re: Usyk, Gvozdyk & Derevyanchenko = the top 3 prospects in boxing
Posted: 02 Jan 2016, 21:34
by Tarkus
Killer Kovalev wrote:Tarkus wrote:
No I am not confusing them, but they seem similar in style. However I have not seen Derev in pros yet. So perhaps I should check that out.
they aren't trust me. Derevyanchenko's nickname is '' the technician'' for a reason, he isn't a brawler.
Actually, I looked and I remembered that I have seen him of course with Khytrov on the same card against Ayala I think. He is probably better then Khytrov but not as good as Lomachenko (although who is). Perhaps stylistically somewhere between these two. I stand by my initial assessment, but I dont mind if he proves me wrong.