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I doubt that any heavyweight with a major crown wants any part of this man.They most of seen how hard he hits an how quick he is and said forget,I'm not fighting this guy.Especially Deontay Wilder ever since he defeated bermaine,he been fighting more safer and more easier opponents ever since then.I don't know maybe he's too much of a challenge,also people in the UK love this guy.

psychod1986 wrote:I doubt that any heavyweight with a major crown wants any part of this man.They most of seen how hard he hits an how quick he is and said forget,I'm not fighting this guy.Especially Deontay Wilder ever since he defeated bermaine,he been fighting more safer and more easier opponents ever since then.I don't know maybe he's too much of a challenge,also people in the UK love this guy.

Malik Scott seems to want a piece of that, apparently they have beef because AJ supposedly dissed him for going with Dillan instead of him; here's how it all went down>>>>


"AJ is a good fighter, but I see a lot of loopholes and insecurity in him as well...I extended my hand out to congratulate him on a job well done and he kind of rejected my gesture and said he was upset at me for basically backing Dillian to beat him. I just think it's bitchy for another man to get mad at another man for picking or backing his comrade to win," stated heavyweight contender Malik Scott, who had some choice words for rising heavyweight contender Anthony Joshua. Check it out!

SS: I know you were firmly in Dillian's corner against Anthony Joshua. He went in as the big underdog in many people's eyes. What did you make of his showing?

MS: I thought Dillian did a fantastic job considering who he was up against and him giving it his all regardless of his injury going into the fight. It was a great showing by both fighters and Eddie Hearn and AJ did a great job that night.

SS: What did you make of Anthony Joshua's performance in this fight and how well he was able to emerge victorious in his toughest test to date?

MS: Like I have always said about Anthony Joshua, the kid is a young lion and he's coming up strong in the rankings. Now do I see him the way the Brits do? No, but I'm a candid guy and not suppose to see what they see or feel what they feel. AJ is a good fighter, but I see a lot of loopholes and insecurity in him as well.

What are your thoughts on this? Will we ever see these two hook up in the ring, and if they do, then who wins and how??

No reason to avoid him, he's the biggest money in the division. I think he's already the best heavyweight in the world, been saying that for at least a year. he'll definitely get fights, money always does.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No reason to avoid him, he's the biggest money in the division. I think he's already the best heavyweight in the world, been saying that for at least a year. he'll definitely get fights, money always does.

How can you say he's the best when he hasn't fought anyone except bums with no names? Right now I'd say that Ortiz is the best, even better than Fury who just beat HuggaKlit.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No reason to avoid him, he's the biggest money in the division. I think he's already the best heavyweight in the world, been saying that for at least a year. he'll definitely get fights, money always does.

How can you say he's the best when he hasn't fought anyone except bums with no names? Right now I'd say that Ortiz is the best, even better than Fury who just beat HuggaKlit.

Because that's my opinion. He can't be rated first until his resume builds, doesn't mean i can't pick him over the rest of them.

I said the same thing about Golovkin and kovalev before they had fought anyone. Turned out ok.

Mr undeafted I never said that joshua was the best but he is one of the most feared out though.I hear Malik Scott wants to fight,Malik isn't even a challenge he's a feather puncher and been knockout by Wilder in the first round.

psychod1986 wrote:Mr undeafted I never said that joshua was the best but he is one of the most feared out though.I hear Malik Scott wants to fight,Malik isn't even a challenge he's a feather puncher and been knockout by Wilder in the first round.

Did i ever question you about your opinion of Joshua?? Saad said he thinks Joshua is the best HW in the world and I just wanted to know why he said that.

If you believe the same then that is ok but I just happen to think that based on skillset and facing top quality competition that Ortiz is the forerunner ahead of all HWs in terms of who's the best and that includes Wilder as well.

Sure Wilder beat Stiverne but I think that Stiverne's biggest win was against Arreola and he isn't all that special IMHO but Ortiz beat Jennings who is far better than both Stiverne and Arreola.

Too bad we never got to see Ortiz vs Stiverne. Still the skills that Ortiz possess far outclasses those that Joshua (who stands too straight up, punches too slow and often too wide leaving himself open for counters) who has only fought and beat Bums.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:No reason to avoid him, he's the biggest money in the division. I think he's already the best heavyweight in the world, been saying that for at least a year. he'll definitely get fights, money always does.

How can you say he's the best when he hasn't fought anyone except bums with no names? Right now I'd say that Ortiz is the best, even better than Fury who just beat HuggaKlit.

Bums with no names? He boxed more boxrec top 100 opponends already as Deontay Wilder has in his entire life and KOed every single one of them in less time as it took Wilder. Only Scott went down in a really short time, but everyone says it was a dive and when I look at the vid I can't say they were wrong. He didn't even try to hit Deontay Wilder, you can't win 30 out of 32 matches with such a glass jaw.

Not avoided at all.


He provides such a payday there's a queue to fight him.

Scott, Chisora and Haye most vocal so far.

Not avoided.

Bad thread.

Horse wrote:Not avoided.

Bad thread.

I have seen a dozen decent fighters calling him out.I do not see how anyone can call him avoided.
This thread is a joke

If I'm handling Joshua's career right now, I'm gradually moving him along. I know that he's got some amateur experience but after watching for the first time in his last fight, he seems very raw to me. I like that he got buzzed early and fought through it. If I'm Wilder or Fury, I'd want to fight him right away if I'm going to have to fight him because this kids just going to get better. Heavyweights always take a little longer to marinate and I think once this kid hits his stride, no one is beating him. Unless they move him up too early and they screw up this kids progress. That would be a shame. So, I'd be completely fine with people avoiding him right now as what he needs now is tune ups.

asdfjkl wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Bums with no names? He boxed more boxrec top 100 opponends already as Deontay Wilder has in his entire life and KOed every single one of them in less time as it took Wilder. Only Scott went down in a really short time, but everyone says it was a dive and when I look at the vid I can't say they were wrong. He didn't even try to hit Deontay Wilder, you can't win 30 out of 32 matches with such a glass jaw.

Yes, you read that correctly, I said "BUMS" and with "NO NAMES". Name me just one Top 10 or even top 15 HW that he has beaten, just one please??

psychod1986 wrote:I doubt that any heavyweight with a major crown wants any part of this man.They most of seen how hard he hits an how quick he is and said forget,I'm not fighting this guy.Especially Deontay Wilder ever since he defeated bermaine,he been fighting more safer and more easier opponents ever since then.I don't know maybe he's too much of a challenge,also people in the UK love this guy.

I don't believe Joshua has attempted to fight anyone that has avoided 'em.

caldo2025 wrote:If I'm handling Joshua's career right now, I'm gradually moving him along. I know that he's got some amateur experience but after watching for the first time in his last fight, he seems very raw to me. I like that he got buzzed early and fought through it. If I'm Wilder or Fury, I'd want to fight him right away if I'm going to have to fight him because this kids just going to get better. Heavyweights always take a little longer to marinate and I think once this kid hits his stride, no one is beating him. Unless they move him up too early and they screw up this kids progress. That would be a shame. So, I'd be completely fine with people avoiding him right now as what he needs now is tune ups.

Yeah I agree that he shouldn't be rushed, he started boxing at about 18 and it shows, he's got this far on his natural athletic ability more then anything, I would give him another year fighting the likes of Chisora and Scott and let him develop.

The problem he has is that his promoter says he is the best HW in the world now and he is a PPV fighter, so he has to match him hard if he's going to charge us every time he fights.

Joshua has promise but he got clipped by Whyte, lets see what happens.

Anthony joshua most avoided heavyweight now.

Nobody has avoided him so far. Can you be most avoided if no one has avoided you at all?

His promoter said he is not prepared to put him in with champions yet, so how is he avoided?

I am sure Fury would fight him when the time comes. And based on what I have seen so far he beats him comfortably.

As for Wilder, he doesnt want any part of anyone, unless it is a fat bin man or a stiff. So that doesn't count.

Joshua's people will be more concerned with his style more than anything else, they know he's young in shape and who's offensive boxing ability is ok but the jury is out on his defence.
He's shown flashes of smarts in both fields that can be worked upon but there are vulnerabilities in each too.
Keeping him grounded focused and interested might be a bigger job were he to succeed and we don't yet know what his beard is like in it's true form.
There's a lot of questions.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Bums with no names? He boxed more boxrec top 100 opponends already as Deontay Wilder has in his entire life and KOed every single one of them in less time as it took Wilder. Only Scott went down in a really short time, but everyone says it was a dive and when I look at the vid I can't say they were wrong. He didn't even try to hit Deontay Wilder, you can't win 30 out of 32 matches with such a glass jaw.

Yes, you read that correctly, I said "BUMS" and with "NO NAMES". Name me just one Top 10 or even top 15 HW that he has beaten, just one please??

Then what do you expect from someone who only fought 15 matches? Wilder still hasn't fought anyone who deserves a spot in the top 25. Joshua KOed pretty much everyone he faced in less time as they have ever been KOed in their entire life. There is no heavyweight boxer in the top 25 that has ever done anything like whatever you suggest. Wilder hasn't even fought a top 250 boxer at the similar stage of his carreer.

Joseph Parker beats AJ at this stage in their careers.

...and who's avoiding him? ..any top guys he challenged? I kinda missed it...

Whyte is getting heavily over-rated . . the guy is tough as nails but has horrible technique and a porous defense, and he gave Joshua all he could handle. Joshua is very strong and powerful but is incredibly stiff and also has a porous defense. I see several guys beating him, including Parker (unless Parker ends up having a glass jaw)

Yes I want to see that this guy beat fighter like Fury....

Davidreed wrote:Yes I want to see that this guy beat fighter like Fury....

He probably would. Even Fury admitted he got his ass handed to him by Joshua in sparring a few years back. Just sparring, I know, but I would favor Joshua if the two fought.